Contempt

I was thinking yesterday that antismoking zealots have profound contempt for smokers. It takes a most profound contempt for smokers to expel them all from their clubs and bars and cafes. And then, having expelled them from those places, to go on to expel them from even more places yet. Smoking bans are expressions of contempt for smokers.

The antismokers really do regard smokers as vermin. They absolutely hate them.

Some smokers internalise this contempt, and hate themselves. But I don’t internalise the contempt: I  hate the antismokers back with an equal and opposite contempt.

But I was also thinking yesterday that the war on smokers was a class war.  The UK smoking ban was first called for in 2004 by Sir Charles George, who was the then director of both the BMA and the BHF. This man was part of the British aristocracy. That’s what having “Sir” in front of your name means. And he was calling for a war to be launched upon the British working class, in which most of Britain’s smokers are found. So in the UK the war on smokers is a class war by the British upper classes on the British lower classes.

This also reminded me that Britain has historically been rather famous for its class system – although in my experience as an Englishman, I’ve seen very little of it. And I probably never saw very much of it because I grew up during the last years of the British Empire, during which time a great many of Britain’s upper classes lost their colonial fortunes, and could no longer maintain their large country houses, and had to sell them off. The British aristocracy was decimated. And these days you hardly ever see Lord and Lady This, or Lord and Lady That, making headlines in the newspapers. Post-imperial Britain has been a far more egalitarian society than imperial Britain ever was.

And I thought that Britain’s class system was mostly likely the expression of contempt: the British upper classes had contempt for the British lower classes, and vice versa. And the upper classes had contempt for the lower classes because they regarded themselves as better than them in every possible way. They saw themselves as superior beings. And furthermore, being more or less Masters of the Universe as overseers of the sprawling British empire, they saw themselves as being superior to absolutely everyone in the world. So their contempt for everybody was accordingly even greater than it would otherwise have been. And this was probably why Britain’s class system was so famous worldwide: the contempt for those at the bottom by those at the top was never so great anywhere else. The contempt – and the accompanying class system – only began to vanish when the British upper classes ceased to be Masters of the Universe, and could no longer look down on everyone else, because they were now re-joining them as equals.

It was probably the same in ancient Rome, at the height of the Roman empire, when Julius Caesar was a politician of the Populares (people’s) party, and was fighting with politicians in the Optimates party. What does “optimate” mean? It means “best”. For the Optimates were the Roman upper classes, and they probably regarded themselves as much the very best people as the British upper classes ever did at the height of the British empire. And they probably treated everyone else with complete and perfect contempt.

Class systems emerge, it would seem, whenever great power and wealth become concentrated anywhere. And today most of the power and wealth in the world is concentrated in the USA, and to a lesser extent in Europe. And so it’s in the USA and Europe that a new class system has emerged. In Europe the new aristocracy has its headquarters in Brussels, and it regards its empire as consisting of the whole of Europe. And, as ever, the aristocrats in the EU have the most complete and perfect contempt for their European subject peoples.

It’s no different in the USA. Hillary Clinton is a member of the US aristocracy. She’s very rich, and very powerful. And she was the aristocrats’ presidential candidate last year. And she fully expected to win the presidency. She thought it was going to be a shoo-in. It was even widely touted as an upcoming “coronation.”

And just like aristocrats everywhere, Hillary Clinton has profound contempt for the US lower orders. She even has her own special name for them: the “deplorables.” And she even declared that there was an entire “basket” of these deplorables, by which she meant that there were all sorts of different kinds of deplorable people. And one of the kinds of people she deplored, of course, were smokers (currently, it’s more or less de rigueur for aristocrats everywhere to deplore smoking and smokers). And Donald Trump, the rough-spoken presidential candidate who actually did win, was another kind of deplorable, even if he was very rich. It was completely unthinkable to the US aristocracy to even imagine that a deplorable like Donald Trump could ever become President. And, now that he has, they can’t stop showering him with the contempt they have for him. They think that the presidency rightfully belongs to them – to the “best” people.

There are lots of examples of the way that these new aristocrats treat people with contempt. In Europe, the decision of the EU aristocracy to import millions of people from Africa and the Middle East displays the most perfect contempt with which they regard their own people’s cultures and traditions. In the USA, the neocon quest for global military supremacy displays the most perfect contempt for anyone (Russians in particular) who would dare thwart their ambitions. And this boundless contempt is also expressed to everyone by habitual lying. For to lie to people is to express contempt for them. And so they lie about smoking. And they lie about global warming. They lie about everything, all the time. And they lie because they think that the contemptible deplorables don’t need to be told the truth, even about matters that intimately concern them. And another feature of this contempt is that the aristocracy will not listen to anyone whom they hold in contempt: they will listen to nobody’s advice but their own. And this guarantees that they will do more and more foolish things.

But if these new aristocrats hold everyone else in perfect contempt, it also follows that they are increasingly being regarded with equal and opposite contempt by more and more of the people whom they claim to represent (but whom they actually order around as if they were their servants).

It can’t last. When the American colonists revolted against British rule in 1776, it was a revolt which was almost certainly exacerbated by the perfect contempt with which the British crown and aristocracy had been treating them. And when the French revolution broke out a few decades later, it was probably exacerbated by the perfect contempt with which the French king and his attendant aristocracy were treating the French people. For contempt breeds counter-contempt, as night follows day.

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29 Responses to Contempt

  1. Yes they do regard us a vermin. We know a film about that don’t we, Boys and Girls?

    • Joe L. says:

      Too true. And our power also lies in our superior numbers. There are far more smokers (and tolerant nonsmokers) than there are Antismokers. Unfortunately, like the Nazis, the Antismokers’ propaganda is strong and relentless, and has rendered most of our forces afraid, ashamed and/or apathetic.

  2. Timothy Goodacre says:

    Yes the feeling of contempt is mutual. Interestingly in the past the British upper orders smoked cigs made from Oriental tobacco whilst the lower orders used mainly Virginian tobacco.

  3. smokingscot says:

    Don’t feel contempt towards them.

    They’re revolting in what they do, how they lie – and the amounts paid into their bank accounts each month.

    And I loathe them with a passion.

    Not just the talking heads in tobacco control and the fake charities that have jumped on the gravy train. Also the politicians who allocate funds that allow this festering putrid mass to thrive and multiply.

    Nope, they’re all beneath contempt.

  4. Rose says:

    ” A VIOLENT protest involving 30 inmates was staged at Hewell prison over the weekend, in response to a new smoking ban, which comes into effect today (July 24).

    Specialist ‘Tornado squads’, equipped to deal with riots, were drafted in to the Hewell Lane jail on Saturday night (July 22), after trouble broke out on one of the wings.”
    http://www.bromsgroveadvertiser.co.uk/news/local/15430008.Prison_riot_was_fuelled_by_new_smoking_ban/

    • beobrigitte says:

      It is believed a new smoking ban, which came into effect this week, had sparked the disturbance.

      “The Prison Service as a whole is becoming smoke free,” Ms Marshall added. “Second hand smoke is a serious danger to staff. All sorts of tests have been carried out and this ban is a result of these findings.”
      All sorts of tests? Which ‘sorts of tests’? And, WHO paid for these “all sorts of tests”?

      The lady is a prime example of what tobacco control does to people. Numb them into mindlessness.

  5. Scot says:

    This about sums it up – I knew it was a patrician, class-based, ban when it first was tried on us Guinea pigs in Scotland – Jack McConnell, (paraphrashing here) “wanted the ban over all premises, so not just the trendy West End pubs of Glasgow would benefit, but to protect the poorer East end boozers and their clientel who would otherwise be exposed to SHS” He admitted this this in interview on the 10th anniversary of the ban.

    Fucking condescending bastard…

  6. slugbop007 says:

    To RdM: I just finished reading your comment on May 31, 2017. You mentioned trying Manitou 100% Organic. I have been smoking Manitou and Pueblo organic tobaccos for the past two years. Manitou has three choices, as does Pueblo. Manitou is fairly mild and Pueblo has a more robust flavour. Lately I tried a German organic tobacco called Pepe. Very tasty. Now I mix them together. I order these tobaccos online from the Pipe-Shop:

    https://pipe-shop.net/Shop/cgi-bin/his-webshop.cgi?t=kontaktform_en_new The proprietor’s name is Lothar Wasko.

    I live in Montreal, Canada so I don’t know how convenient, practical or economical dealing with the Pipe-Shop would be for you, or anyone else on the other side of the pond. I pay 3 euros 80 for each 30 gram pouch.

    Sincerely, slugbop007

    • nisakiman says:

      I used to get my Pueblo (brown) from Lothar Wasko, but the advent of the TPD (spit) meant that he is no longer allowed to send tobacco to any other EU countries.

      God how I hate the sanctimonious arseholes in TC, and their constant drive to remove all choice from smokers. I could wring their scrawny necks for their hubris in assuming that their warped ideology has ascendancy over my right to choose how to live my life.

      So anyway, I’m back to smoking Golden Virginia at nearly half as much again as I was paying from Lothar. We have American Spirit available here, but I’m not very keen on it. The Pueblo brown was a lovely smoke.

  7. natepickering says:

    The political ruling class in the US hates Donald Trump for a variety of reasons, but class contempt absolutely is one of the big ones. They regard him as nouveau riche because he worked his way from the upper middle-class to a 12-figure net worth (to be a proper member of the political ruling class, you have to start out filthy rich and increase your worth through an “honorable” enterprise like venture capital or stock speculation; being a land developer, and actually building things, is just vulgar and uncouth, particularly when you put your own name on the things you build). They are also hugely resentful of his ostentatious displays of wealth, for they regard these as the antics of an inherently lower-class person who doesn’t deserve the money they have.

  8. Rose says:

    Anti-smoking policies now cover one sixth of world citizens, says WHO
    24 July 2017

    “The proportion of the world’s population covered by anti-tobacco smoking measures has quadrupled in the past decade, the World Health Organisation has said.”

    “There were now 4.7bn people – equivalent to 63% of world’s population – covered by anti-smoking policies such as graphic packaging warnings and smoke-free public places, compared with only 1 billion (15%) in 2007.”
    http://www.publicfinanceinternational.org/news/2017/07/anti-smoking-policies-now-cover-one-sixth-world-citizens-says-who

    WHO Europe evidence based recommendations on the treatment of tobacco dependence
    2002

    “This was a three year project, funded largely by three pharmaceutical companies that manufacture treatment products for tobacco dependence, but managed by WHO Europe and a steering group which included government representatives and many public sector organisations. The project focused on five areas: tracking smokers’ behaviour and intention to change; the regulation of tobacco products and tobacco dependence treatment products; smoke free places and workplace policies; the implementation of evidence based treatment; and communicating the health messages about stopping smoking.”

    “They were commissioned by the World Health Organization and have drawn on the experience of a number of European countries, including the four original target countries of the partnership project: France, Germany, Poland, and the UK. They were discussed in two European WHO meetings on evidence based treatment, in London in November 1999 and in Barcelona in October 2000, and revised in the light of feedback following those meetings”
    http://tobaccocontrol.bmj.com/content/11/1/44.full

    • beobrigitte says:

      “They were commissioned by the World Health Organization and have drawn on the experience of a number of European countries, including the four original target countries of the partnership project: France, Germany, Poland, and the UK….
      Germans, brace yourselves for the next tobacco control onslaught. For quite a number of years the unhealthy looking anti-smoking guy in Germany has been going on about the country “Flickenteppich” (patchwork quilt) because, unlike Poland, France and England, Germany’s individual Bundeslaender (states) are governed individually and therefore most of the Bundeslaender do not have the total smoking ban.

      France is becoming quite interesting.
      https://www.24matins.de/topnews/eco/franzoesische-tabakwarenhaendler-protestieren-gegen-erhoehung-der-zigarettenpreise-44936
      In English:
      https://www.rt.com/business/397094-french-tobacconists-price-hike/
      According to France’s Prime Minister Edouard Philippe, with 80,000 tobacco-related deaths in France each year, “doing nothing is not an option.”
      I do have a question: HOW OLD were these so-called tobacco-related deaths people? In their 80s?
      I agree, something needs to be done!! Kick tobacco control and it’s tentacles out of our lives!

      The price of a pack of cigarettes in France is among the highest in Europe, although Ireland and the UK have higher prices.

      Statistics showed in March the French bought four million packets of cigarettes, over four percent more than during the same period last year.
      Surprised? Having raised kids myself I can confirm that whatever is VERY EXPENSIVE is a MUST for teenagers.
      The next teenager coming up to me scrounging a cigarette will be asked: “Are you 18? Well, you do look 18, so, no problem.”

    • Joe L. says:

      This was a three year project, funded largely by three pharmaceutical companies that manufacture treatment products for tobacco dependence

      Nothing to add. It speaks for itself.

    • natepickering says:

      “This was a three year project, funded largely by three pharmaceutical companies that manufacture treatment products for tobacco dependence, but managed by WHO Europe and a steering group which included government representatives and many public sector organisations. The project focused on five areas: tracking smokers’ behaviour and intention to change; the regulation of tobacco products and tobacco dependence treatment products; smoke free places and workplace policies; the implementation of evidence based treatment; and communicating the health messages about stopping smoking.”

      Just look at the number of times the word “treatment” is used in this paragraph. It is taken for granted that smoking is a disease, and diseases require treatment.

      Of course, this is what lifestyle engineers do. They turn behaviors into “diseases” so that they can be the ones who get paid to “treat” them. Amazing that it’s been such a successful racket, since it so obviously is one, and they don’t really even bother pretending otherwise anymore.

    • I really had to double check: the statement “There were now 4.7bn people – equivalent to 63% of world’s population” really prompted the bold title: “Anti-smoking policies now cover one sixth of world citizens, says WHO”.

      So in this article 63% effectively translates to one sixth. Talk about innumeracy writ large… What a strange dimension these characters seem to inhabit! We should stop remunerating these charlatans forthwith and start ‘re-numerating’ them instead.

      • Joe L. says:

        LOL! Good catch, SFB! I totally overlooked the headline!

        Mistakes like this are easy to make when your job involves constantly making up bogus statistics.

  9. slugbop007 says:

    To nisakiman,

    Sorry to hear that you can no longer order from Lothar Wasko. He’s as ticked off as you are. It costs me almost two thirds less to buy tobacco from him than in Montreal. Less tax revenu for the Quebec government as well. Also In Quebec, the government banned almost all flavoured pipe tobaccos. What a nerve! The present Premier of Quebec was the Health Minister who implemented the indoor smoking ban here in 2007. The @#$@$$! Unfortunately for people like myself, the provincial opposition parties, plus the Mayor of Montreal are just as anti-tobacco as he is. I am certain that they will try to ban all smoking in social housing units in the next few years.

    slugbop007

  10. Dmitri says:

    Why do I want to disagree with you, Frank? Maybe because REAL aristocracy is supposed to be responsible to societies, like in defending them and dying in battles sometimes. And there was a lot of such examples in ages of history. True, in SOME cases the upper classes were losing it, and paying dearly for that. In other cases lower classes were losing it, and paying dearly, too.
    Now, I detect anti-smoking venom mostly in other kind of creatures – classless, cosmopolitan, half-educated big city hamsters, pushing 40 and not knowing what to do with their miserable lives. At the very least there is a collusion between them and “reformers” reaching the heights of governments and thinking they are gods and aristocrats.

    • beobrigitte says:

      Now, I detect anti-smoking venom mostly in other kind of creatures – classless, cosmopolitan, half-educated big city hamsters, pushing 40 and not knowing what to do with their miserable lives
      Not half-educated, just politically correct, occasionally highly, educated averagely capable citizen so they have no questions. They were raised to be pre-occupied with competition of all forms, missing out on real friendship and all that goes with it. That their lives must be utter, utter selfish misery eventually leads them to Big Pharma’s “helpful” arms.

      • Rose says:

        Use of antidepressants doubles in a decade
        June 30 2017

        “The number of prescriptions for antidepressants is growing faster than that of any other type of medication, with almost twice as many handed out as a decade ago.

        Last year 64.7 million prescriptions were written for antidepressants, up 6 per cent in a year and more than 90 per cent higher than the 33.7 million ten years earlier.”
        https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/use-of-antidepressants-doubles-in-a-decade-mlc929f8p

        • natepickering says:

          There are a shocking number of adolescents and young adults who’ve grown up taking tranquilizers and/or antidepressants every day, as a matter of course, sometimes since single-digit childhood. No one seems to have any inclination to be outraged by this, but they’ll clutch their pearls in shrieking hysteria over the same kids having a puff of strawberry-flavored nicotine vapor.

        • Joe L. says:

          Not surprising in the least that the use of antidepressants in the UK has doubled over the same decade since the UK smoking ban took effect.

        • Rose says:

          Nate

          Nicotine as Good as Ritalin on Core Measure of Attention Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder

          NEW ORLEANS, LA — November 13, 2003 — Nicotine serves as well as the commonly prescribed drug methylphenidate (Ritalin) on measures of motor inhibition taken in teens with attention deficit/hyperactivity disorder (ADHD).

          Investigators of a small study presented here November 8th at the Society for Neuroscience 33rd Annual Meeting, used the finding to suggest that smoking in people with ADHD is an attempt at self-medication.

          Alexandra Potter, PhD, postdoctoral fellow, Clinical Neuroscience Research Unit, University of Vermont, Burlington, United States, noted that kids with ADHD take up smoking and become hooked at twice the rate of other adolescents. “If these findings are substantiated,” Dr. Potter said, “these cognitive improvements may explain the high rates of smoking initiation and maintenance in ADHD.”

          “Reaction times significantly improved on 2 standard laboratory tasks that measure inhibition of responding no matter which drug was used. Tests included the Stroop Task, with nicotine significantly decreasing the so-called Stroop effect (P < .05). Nicotine worked better on this task than did Ritalin."
          http://www.docguide.com/nicotine-good-ritalin-core-measure-attention-deficit-hyperactivity-disorder-presented-sfn

          And that was done with nicotine patches so the strawberry favoured vapor might be a kinder option.

          Common side effects of Ritalin include:
          "nervousness, agitation,anxiety,sleep problems (insomnia),stomach pain,loss of appetite,weight loss,nausea,vomiting,dizziness,palpitations,headache,vision problems,
          increased heart rate,increased blood pressure,sweating,skin rash,psychosis, and numbness,tingling, or cold feeling in your hands or feet."
          http://www.rxlist.com/ritalin-side-effects-drug-center.htm

    • Frank Davis says:

      REAL aristocracy is supposed to be responsible to societies, like in defending them and dying in battles sometimes.

      I did say that I was discussing the situation where “great power and wealth become concentrated.” That doesn’t happen all the time, so I’m quite prepared to accept that there are benign aristocracies in other circumstances.

      The problem seems to arise where a hitherto benign aristocracy becomes increasingly detached from the wider society it is supposed to serve, and starts to have its own separate aims, which are very often quite different from those of the wider society. For example I think that the goals of the EU aristocracy are now quite different from those of most of the peoples who live in the EU, and antithetical to them in many cases (e.g. with respect to immigration, and also with respect to smoking bans)

      I detect anti-smoking venom mostly in other kind of creatures – classless, cosmopolitan, half-educated big city hamsters,

      But these are just the passive recipients of the antismoking propaganda which they have been taught by the aristocrats in the WHO and in the senior ranks of the medical profession, and which they accept unquestioningly. They are not the teachers or originators of that propaganda.

      • natepickering says:

        It’s been said by more than a few people, sometimes pretty convincingly, that benevolent dictatorship is potentially the ideal form of human governance, and the only thing preventing it from being so is the acute lack of benevolent dictators.

        • nisakiman says:

          Which is essentially what the old system of absolute monarchy was. However, as you point out, the disposition of the monarch concerned was a matter of chance, and caprice seemed to be the most common trait, unfortunately.

  11. waltc says:

    Yes, but….Going back, say, forty years , smoking knew no class divisions. Professionals and academics and millionaires smoked in likely equal proportion to dockworkers and clerks. Doctors themselves smoked (see Doll’s Doctors Study). So the first thing, in parallel with the early 20th c war on maijuana, was to drive smoking out of the upper and self-descibed “educated” classes. Only then could they declare an all-out War in an (wonderful) Us against (deplorable) Them.

  12. waltc says:

    You will love this. Including, if not especially the lead photo.

    http://nypost.com/2017/07/24/hip-health-freaks-think-smoking-is-cool-again/

  13. Smoking Lamp says:

    The antismoker tobacco control cult is beyond contempt. They used lies and political pressure to persecute smokers based on nothing more than hate. There is essentially no risk from second hand smoke but they suppressed that knowledge as they are currently suppressing data about vaping to ensure vaping is outlawed. This cult enjoyed using power to abuse all in the name of health yet they take funds from pharmaceutical companies to attack smoking and hide the side effects of phrase drugs. Yes, they are beyond contempt. They should be prosecuted for the fraud they perpetrated and continue to perpetrate.

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