I’m Slowing Up

One day in January I found myself gasping for breath to breathe. Three months later I’m still finding myself puffing and blowing after more or less any effort to do anything physical. Things that took me one minute to do now take me five minutes. And that means that I can do five times less than I used to be able to do. I’m better than I was but still not recovered.

For example my Glaciation climate simulation model, which has been in development for two years, has pretty much entirely come to a halt. And blog posts on the current blog are  getting shorter.

I’ve been writing this blog almost daily since 2009, but it now seems that I have a choice between writing about a fifth of what I used to every day, or writing once every five days. And I don’t know which it will be.

Since 2007 I’ve stopped going to pubs between the months of October and April, so now is the time in the year when excluded smokers like me usually get to enjoy a beer or two in English pub gardens. This year I can’t even do that, because all the pubs in England are closed during the current coronavirus lockdown. So while I’ve partly disabled by shortage of breath, the British government has now made sure that I’m completely disabled from visiting any pub at all. And I expect that many of the pubs which closed when the lockdown started may never open their  doors again. I won’t be at all surprised if the 2020 coronavirus proves to be as damaging for British pubs as the smoking ban was in 2007.

Nor do I think that the British government cares any more now than it did then about British pubs. In fact I don’t think it cares much about any sort of peculiarly British culture at all, now that it’s all deemed to be “inessential”. What’s “essential” these days is what keeps people alive and healthy, under the heartless modern tyranny of Health. Everything else – companionship, pleasure, all the little delights of social life – is unimportant.

But I’ve begun to think that what the goverment thinks is inessential is actually everything that is essential for a full and truly human life, and that staying alive and healthy is the ;east important part of it. The government may think that it doesn’t matter if friends can no longer meet for a few months during the lockdown, but I think it’s a catastrophe. And practising “social distancing” just as bad. Should we ever be as proud as we are now are to encourage social division?

In the UK, the lockdown is anyway intended to help the struggling National Health Service, not the British people. Isn’t this the wrong way round? Aren’t the British People more important than the NHS? And isn’t the lockdown another demonstration of the modern tyranny of Health? And isn’t the new practice of publicly applauding nurses and doctors also part of that new tyranny, particularly when used to censure those who have failed to applaud loudly enough?

My personal inclination is to applaud the British people, who always seem to come last in consideration behind all other ethnic groups, and who always seem to come last in consideration behind all other social concerns. But they are just a few odd thoughts in a dwindling number of odd thoughts.

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246 Responses to I’m Slowing Up

  1. Fredrik says:

    Frank,
    Please feel free to tell me to mind my own business but , if you have not already done so, I do think you should see a Doctor.

  2. sok says:

    For what it’s worth Frank, you write it and I will read it)

  3. Rose says:

    Unfortunately we seem a long way behind America

    Researchers Looking Into Using Nitric Oxide To Treat Coronavirus
    https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2020/04/27/researchers-looking-into-using-nitric-oxide-to-treat-coronavirus/
    https://boston.cbslocal.com/2020/04/27/coronavirus-study-nitric-oxide-could-help-patients-breathe-easier/.
    Massachusetts General Hospital last week

    The only mention I can find from the UK mentions premature babies.

  4. Lepercolonist says:

    Smoking reducing the Chinese flu was discussed on Adam Carolla and De.Drew’s podcast. Adam[smoker] thinks it may be that smokers are hardier and tough. They are overrepresented among motorcycle riders and tuna fisherman. Dr. Drew suggested the ACE-2 receptor may need more investigation. Dr. Drew noticed that most deaths were obese patients which compromises our immune system. He said that most smokers are leaner.

  5. Rose says:

    “It turned me around there’s no two ways about said coronavirus patient Tim Ameredes. He said the symptoms hit hardest on Easter Sunday.
    “I was coughing quite a bit I got very winded, short of breath and my temperature spiked over 102”,he said.
    At the hospital, Ameredes said the coughing continued for hours.
    “My lungs were starting to shut down so I had to go on oxygen and fortunately I stabilized because my oxygen levels were dropping”, he said.

    The next step would have been intensive care, instead, Ameredes participated in a clinical trial at Ohio State University Wexner Medical Center using inhaled nitric oxide.

    “Nitric oxide once it’s inhaled seems to help the body actually fight the virus, it has antiviral properties”,said Dr. Sitaramesh Emani”

    “I was still on oxygen when I went into the treatment”, Ameredes said.”So they had a nasal tube that piped in the oxygen and the nitric oxide and then the following day they took me off oxygen because I didn’t need it.

    Ameredes is now recovering at home and feeling good.
    https://boston.cbslocal.com/2020/04/27/coronavirus-study-nitric-oxide-could-help-patients-breathe-easier/

  6. Rose says:

    Smokers have always paid for their own nitric oxide, but sadly New Labour banned smoking in hospitals 15 years ago.

    Hospitals cast doubt on smoke-free NHS target
    2005

    “The government looks set to miss its target of a smoke-free NHS after just 11% of hospitals today said they would be able to introduce a total smoking ban in their buildings and grounds by the end of the year.
    The results of the survey, by the Health Development Agency (H DA), throw into doubt one of the government’s key health targets to make the NHS smoke-free by the end of 2006.”

    The HDA spokesman said: “If a hospital provides rooms for smokers it makes it very difficult for other people who might be trying to give up. It would be far better that the money was spent on helping people to stop smoking.”

    The British Medical Association (BMA), which represents doctors, is also keen to see a total smoking ban in NHS.
    Public health consultant Dr Norman Vetter, a member of the BMA’s Welsh council, wants any smoking ban to cover all hospital grounds.

    He said: “It’s just a crazy situation – you can have patients with no legs outside the hospital puffing away with nurses puffing around them.”
    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2005/feb/10/hospitals.smoking

    Why UK’s death toll could soon be the worst in Europe – in charts
    28 April 2020

    “UK has recorded Europe’s highest average daily deaths for four days in a row – pushing it towards becoming Europe’s worst affected country”
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/04/28/uks-death-toll-will-soon-worst-europe-charts/

    Because we were more overzealous and positively cruel than other countries in implementing the WHO / EU smoking bans.

  7. smokingscot says:

    Frank, you are in very serious trouble good buddy. I say that because your symptoms are almost identical to a gentleman I became familiar with some months back – and he’s dead.

    First off, get a hold of one of these things that measures the amount of oxygen getting into your body. It’s very simple, inexpensive and you clip it on to a finger. If it reads less than 95% then you absolutely must get that sorted.

    https://www.nonin.com/resource/what-is-a-pulse-oximeter/

    He never saw better than 92%, and mostly it was sub 90%. (Mine was 98%, considered pretty good for my age).

    Please don’t piss about waiting for your doctor to get back to you. Pharmacies are open and the larger ones will have a Chief Pharmacist who will listen to your symptoms and try to help. If he or she thinks it’s serious then they’ll get you to see a doctor in the locality.

    https://www.netdoctor.co.uk/health-services/a29133/conditions-you-can-see-pharmacist-for/

    Forget the bumph in the article, mine was fantastic at diagnosing shingles a few years back – and true to form had me seen by a doctor to confirm the diagnosis and prescribe treatment.

    Stoicism is not a cure for bugger all Frank.

  8. slugbop007 says:

    Have you checked the air quality in your lodgings? Maybe something has changed over time and is affecting your health? I used to love Old Holborn but found it a touch too strong. So I mixed it with Drum. Can’t buy it Montreal anymore, it’s too expensive. I switched to organic tobaccos like Manitou, Yuma (a similar flavour to Old Holborn) and Pueblo in the past four or five years and I had a physical reaction that was eerily similar to when I stopped smoking for six months in 1986. Lots of phlegm for several months that gradually went away. Since then I feel much better and now am able to walk up steep hills with less huffing and puffing, even on a bicycle. As well, the noticeable stain between my two smoking fingers has gone away.

    In 2014 I had similar symptons to yours and had to stop walking every hundred feet or so on my way to the grocery store. An Argentinian woman that I had just met prepared me large cups of Maté Tea for several weeks. Maybe that did the trick.

    What does Rose suggest? Perhaps Eucalyptus? Herbs. Asthmador? Burning Sage supposedly purifies bad air. Explore as many potential cures as possible. I have learned much from your writings and appreciate very much what you do. You and Rose are two of my favourite people on Planet Earth. Along with your other readers and contributors as well.

    slugbop007

    • Rose says:

      You are sweet, SB, but I’m not a herbalist. I do sometimes come upon things though and I was rather taken with that beetroot thing from the climber,s while he’s waiting for a diagnosis.

      It mentions nitrate which public health seem to have a terror of and I have come across many times in regard to bacon and tobacco. They blamed it for the nitrosamines in tobacco but that turned out to be the combustion gas from direct firing, which miraculously they never found out despite all their studies.

      ‘Beeting’ high altitude symptoms with beet juice

      “But the body has a “back-up system” for NO production at altitude, and it is here that beet juice can help. The secret ingredient in beet juice is high levels of nitrate, which the body can then convert to NO.”
      https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/10/151012083808.htm

    • Frank Davis says:

      Oddly enough, the problem started when I shut a window against storm winds which I normally keep open. Unfortunately re-opening it didn’t help.

  9. smokingscot says:

    Praise be.

    Next is to get to a pharmacy.

    Treatment will most likely involve a nebuliser, plus an antibiotic and steroids. All can be done by yourself.

    Likely to take several weeks to get you to about 90% of normal, then a couple of months to get back most of the remainder.

  10. Александра Собина says:

    “Burning Sage supposedly purifies bad air.”
    You can also smoke the premises with needles of spruce, pine, juniper, wormwood and amber. It’s simple: take a small piece of amber or other material of your choice in a skillet and let it smoke. With it you can go around the whole house. Scented candles are not recommended. Wax candles are good.

    • Rose says:

      Raw amber is hard to get round here.

      • EG says:

        I would never burn amber. Why would anyone burn amber?
        But in general ritualistic burning and hand sanitizing reminds me of the church.
        The hand sanitizing is like holy water and the masks are sort of like head coverings .
        And the recommendations are becoming more bizarre every day in every country..
        Best luck to you all and especially Frank.

  11. Philip Neal says:

    Definitely have yourself checked out Frank. What you describe sounds like a medical condition and not the normal slowing down which comes with advancing age.

    In other news, Neil Ferguson has released the code with which he models the epidemic. I used to document code of exactly this kind for a living, and it is clearly competently written. The main file containing the functions which run the simulation is 5400 lines long and is dependent on many others, so it is not possible to get to the bottom of it in a matter of hours, but I am wondering whether his modelling of the data captures superspreader events adequately. In his model, individuals do not move from place to place, but there is a rate of flow of people from one region to another, and the regions are counties of Britain, states of the USA and so on, which seems barely granular enough. I hope that someone will audit it thoroughly like the hockey stick model of climate.

  12. slugbop007 says:

    One of the traits that bothers me most about Tobacco Control Zealots is their lack of medical knowledge. Most of what they preach and impose on us is based on prejudice and personal distaste, backed up by fudged statistics and junk science.  The advice that they daily badger the public with on matters of health could be completely bogus and produce more harm than good. That is very scary. One example is accusing nicotinic acid as the culprit for all the current problems with honey bee production. Coronal Mass Ejections could very well be the reason that the bees and other insects, not to forget birds, become disoriented. But given the fact that Nicotine is considered the most dangerous drug in the world these maniacs might spend billions of dollars to eliminate nicotinic acid everywhere and still not succeed in redressing the honey bee problem because they were barking up the wrong tree. 

    slugbop007

    • Rose says:

      That’s news to me, are you sure you don’t mean neonicotinoids?

      “Neonicotinoids are a class of neuro-active insecticides chemically similar to nicotine. In the 1980s Shell and in the 1990s Bayer started work on their development. The neonicotinoid family includes acetamiprid, clothianidin, imidacloprid, nitenpyram, nithiazine, thiacloprid and thiamethoxam.”

      Nicotinic acid is the old name for niacin.

    • Rose says:

      Where the confusion lies I think is because the chemical companies are trading on an old name.

      This is the old and obsolete nicotine pesticide that TC and it’s supporters still like to beat us with. It was made with Nicotiana Rustica because there was comparatively little nicotine in Tabacum.

      nicotine (Black Leaf 40) Chemical Profile 4/85
      IV. ENVIRONMENTAL CONSIDERATIONS
      Little hazard to birds, fish and beneficial insects. Biological magnification unlikely (1).
      Approximate Residual Period: Very short, 1 day on plants; same in soil and water (1).
      http://pmep.cce.cornell.edu/profiles/insect-mite/mevinphos-propargite/nicotine/insect-prof-nicotine.html

      The imposters
      Neonicotinoids
      “Typically, after application, neonic concentrations decline rapidly in soil as a result of plant uptake, leaching into water, binding to the soil and breaking down through microbial action. However, in some soil conditions, lengthy half-lives have been reported for both imidacloprid (100-1,000 days) and clothianidin (150-7,000 days).”
      https://www.gwct.org.uk/policy/position-statements/neonicotinoids/

      Which scare me too.

  13. slugbop007 says:

    Something else that might help you comes from the same people who brought us tobacco, Native Americans. They tore off the sap from pine trees and chewed on it. It’s good for your lungs and throat. A recommded treatment at the beginning of Spring and Autumn. It’s available in syrup and gum form in Montreal, Quebec. Maybe you can find it at your local chemist.

    slugbop007

  14. Александра Собина says:

    Yes, it is a very good thing. My people use it too, just not chewing, but boiling it in milk and then drink it.

    • Rose says:

      Gosh that’s a good idea, I used to carve amber and the scent of ancient pine from the drill was wonderful, but that was many years ago and all the bits have been given away, I used to get the rough amber from the rock shops in Whitby, but we are under lock down and so will they be.

  15. slugbop007 says:

    Yes, Rose, that’s what I meant. Oops!

    slugbop007

  16. Rose says:

    Oh and to be extremely cheeky, Frank, having met you, how far away is your local Marks and Spencer?
    When you don’t feel at your best it’s easy not to bother eating much because it’s too much bother and Marks and Spencers have a range of very tempting and well thought out ready meals that freeze beautifully and have been known to keep Peter and I going over winter when I’m bored of cooking.

  17. Frank Davis says:

    A GP is due to phone me this afternoon.

    • Rose says:

      Thank goodness for that, you’ve got us all worried.

    • Rose says:

      While you are waiting.

      Police hunt terrifying ‘plague walker’ after children left terrified in small UK town
      Apr 29, 2020

      “POLICE are hunting a person dressed as a plague doctor who has spooked children in a small Norfolk town.”

      “The character – believed to be dressed in the 17th century outfit for their daily coronavirus lockdown walk – has been spotted in Hellesdon, near Norwich, wearing a black cloak, hat and beak-like mask. Doctors of the bubonic plague wore the outfits, invented by Charles de L’Orme in 1630, to protect themselves against the deadly disease spread by rats.

      The protective gear often included a beak shaped nose, stuffed with herbs to act as a filter, a wax overcoat, a mask with glass eye openings and a cane to enable the medic to inspect the patient without making direct contact.”
      https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1275247/coronavirus-lockdown-daily-walk-person-dressed-as-plague-doctor

      Well, it made me smile.

    • Elizabeth says:

      Yeah!

    • Rose says:

      That seems rather high, yesterday it was 5% in the same paper.

      MORE evidence smoking may cut the risk of coronavirus: Review of 28 studies shows number of smokers among hospitalised patients is ‘lower than expected’ as expert admits the mounting findings are ‘weird’
      28 April 2020

      “A review of scientific studies has added more evidence to the claim that people who smoke might have a lower risk of becoming seriously ill with COVID-19.
      University College London academics looked at 28 papers and found the proportions of smokers among hospital patients were ‘lower than expected’.
      One public health professor said there was ‘something weird going on with smoking and coronavirus’ and experts are struggling to explain the connection.

      One of the studies showed that in the UK the proportion of smokers among COVID-19 patients was just five per cent, a third of the national rate of 14.4 per cent.”
      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8264635/More-proof-smokers-risk-catching-coronavirus-expert-admits-weird.html

      Do you think someone has had a word over night?

  18. Barry Homan says:

    Just curious. What’s the difference between slowing up and slowing down?

  19. Clicky says:

  20. Rose says:

    It’s all gone quiet, I hope Frank is OK.

  21. Walt Cody says:

    For God’s sakes, let us know.

  22. Александра Собина says:

    May I offer you one quite nice thing.
    Linden blossom, sage, oregano, honey. All heated in red wine, but do not boil. Wine I would recommend Shiraz kind, at least 14%. Cover and let it stand for a while. Drink warm. It can be reheated. It has a taste of blackcurrant. Sweet and sour.

  23. Barry Homan says:

    Get well Frank

  24. Frank Davis says:

    No doctor phoned today or yesterday. But there’s no need to worry about me. I’m nowhere ear death’s door The only thing that’s the mater is that I’m physically very weak.

    Plus none of my phones are working..

    There’s nothing for you all to worry about

    • Fredrik says:

      You have not been able to breath properly for three months now. It came on suddenly and has not gone away.
      It could be that all you need is a couple of stents fitted and or some anti-biotics and you could be right as rain again.
      If your phones do not work how was a Doctor going to phone you up?!
      If I was you I would take myself off to A&E (somehow) and complain about breathing. They can test you with an ECG etc and find out what the problem is.

      • Frank Davis says:

        You have not been able to breath properly for three months now.

        I can mostly breathe perfectly well if I’m sat down

        My mobile phone was working yesterday morning, but not yesterday evening.or today..Ii shows that it’s charging, but nothing else.

        Yes, I can email my brother

        • Fredrik says:

          I can mostly breathe perfectly well if I’m sat down

          That is another way of saying your breathing is not normal. It’s been three months now and you still have not seen a Doctor. Your spelling is off, you are not functioning normally , you need to get some medical help. A&E or Doctors ASAP one of the two, preferably A&E that will get the ball rolling quicker.

    • Joe L. says:

      No doctor phoned today or yesterday.

      Plus none of my phones are working..

      Like Fredrik said, you can’t expect to receive a phone call if you don’t have a working phone. What happened to your phones, Frank? Have you spoken with your brother recently and informed him that you’ve been having difficulty breathing? If your phones aren’t working, can you email him? Maybe he can help get you to a doctor.

  25. slugbop007 says:

    Try Yerba Mate. I did for several weeks and I think it did help me. Maybe the Vodka helped too.

    slugbop007

    Overview Information Yerba mate is a plant. The leaves are used to make medicine.

    Some people take yerba mate by mouth to relieve mental and physical tiredness (fatigue), as well as chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS). It is also taken by mouth for heart-related complaints including heart failure, irregular heartbeat, and low blood pressure.

    Some people also take yerba mate by mouth to improve mood and depression; for diabetes; high cholesterol; weak bones (osteoporosis); to relieve headache and joint pains; to treat urinary tract infections (UTIs), and bladder and kidney stones; for weight loss; and as a laxative.

    In foods, yerba mate is used to make a tea-like beverage.

    How does it work? Yerba mate contains caffeine and other chemicals which stimulate the brain, heart, muscles lining blood vessels, and other parts of the body.

  26. Reinhold from Bavaria says:

    Get well soon, Frank!

  27. Hang in there Sir, you sound positive and that’s 90% of the battle. Best wishes…

  28. Rose says:

    I expect that what ails Frank is 13 years of social solation coping by himself and now things are falling to bits and he’s lost his safety nets. What he needs is rescuing. There seem to be a lot of small groups around doing just that under lockdown, the question is finding them, and him.

    Anyone got his email so they can talk in private?

    Or perhaps we will annoy him so much with our repeated concerns and suggestions that he will go out and do it himself.

    I got dragged off to hospital a couple of years ago by my husband and sister. I had woken up with a really bad migraine and couldn’t speak because I lose the words, but I must have had the flashing lights that start the attack in my sleep, so my husband didn’t recognise what was happening and called my sister who has never seen me have a migraine. Because they were so concerned I thought they must be able to see something that I couldn’t see and went quietly with the ambulance staff.
    It turns out that they thought I’d had a stroke or heart attack and the hospital put me through every test they could think of, and I did them willingly because I still couldn’t find the words to speak except for telling everyone that would listen that I had a headache.
    Anyway, in the end the hospital couldn’t find a thing wrong with me except a small infection and sent me home with some antibiotics. As the migraine slowly faded on the way home, I became my self again and after a cup of coffee or two and a cigarette was back to normal.

    BUT I had been thoroughly checked out and given a clean bill of health which I was very pleased with, and I would never have gone if I hadn’t been forced.
    Decades of being told how sick and vile you are by anti-tobacco does leave a mark.

    • Александра Собина says:

      ” couldn’t find a thing wrong with me except a small infection and sent me home with some antibiotics. ”
      Similar story with me, so I just do not go to docs any more. Help myself while I can.

      • Claudia says:

        Have you thought about trying to get Corona-tested? Seems, that there’s a lot of people who only had a mild infection but are left pretty weak for quite some time afterwards.

        • Frank Davis says:

          I would like to see whether I have developed antibodies, because I got my stuff just as the alarm started in mid-Jan, and it seems that lots of people had weird symptoms. But as far as I know you have to pay for the test yourself.

        • Joe L. says:

          I’d like to see you take an antibody test as well, Frank. Unfortunately, according to the Telegraph, it appears as though antibody tests aren’t projected to be readily available in the UK until later this month, and your government hasn’t released any official information about the cost of a test. However, it seems like you might be able to find a self-test kit on Amazon, but God only knows how accurate it will be, that is, if you can even determine it’s a legitimate test in the first place.

  29. Vlad says:

    Hope you get checked soon Frank. Going by the symptoms you describe it sounds like there is something wrong with your heart.

    • RdM says:

      Amen. My thought too. Heart.
      Something else to get checked at the same time…
      All at one examination, or by a specialist second.

  30. slugbop007 says:

    I agree with you, Rose, contiual social isolation when one is ill and in discomfort is not good for the soul. I had a terrible flu in 1986 and was incapacitated and alone for over three weeks. ‘We all need someone we can lean on’ …

    slugbop007

  31. Frank Davis says:

    I now have a new BT telephone. All i need now is a doctor on the other end of the line. Not that I’ll believe what they tell me.

    • Rose says:

      Critical thinking, always good.
      Now I promise not to mention the matter again unless you initiate the subject.

    • Elizabeth says:

      Well done on your BT phone! Sometimes doctors can be very helpful! I think you fear they will tell you to stop smoking. And, yes, they will, of course! You do not have to obey. But they have the means to discover what is ailing you. And maybe have something helpful to offer you once they have done their tests. Your breathlessness on moving around could have many different causes. If a test indicates, for instance, that you are anaemic, you should believe it, Guessing or denial is not useful. But sorting it out, is.

      Time to demand medical attention, I think. A stitch in time, saves nine.
      Nine is finding yourself in hospital without the ability to smoke!

      End of sermon for today…

    • Rose says:

      I have found this one very effective.

      “In the first three years after giving up, new quitters were 91 per cent more likely to develop diabetes.

      This decreased over time and after 12 years quitters had no excess risk.

      What is behind the raised risk?
      “Extra weight put on by new quitters explains around a third of the increased risk, the researchers said. A further third of the excess risk is accounted for by systemic inflammation, as assessed by increased leukocyte counts.

      However, after adjusting for this weight gain and inflammation, new quitters were still at higher risk compared with participants who continued smoking.”

      “Patients should, however, be made aware of the risk and advised to consider countermeasures, particularly for heavy smokers, they said.”
      http://www.gponline.com/News/article/976970/Behind-Headlines-diabetes-linked-quitting-smoking/

      Medical people know what they should say, but may not understand the possible consequences of you taking their advice.

      • smokingscot says:

        @ Rose.

        Messed up s comment. It’s at the end.

        Deadline should read Wednesday 6 May.

        Then you use your wiley ways to get someone in his area to go get the guy. His Aygo probably won’t start anyway, having been neglected for months.

    • smokingscot says:

      Yesterday you got your £60 plus delivery oxygen doohickey. No way you sat and admired the design. WHAT IS THE READING???

      As I said before, the closer it is to 100% the better, however the lower limit is 95% – and beneath that then make sure the GP knows about it when the time comes. Truth is your average GP does appreciate things like that – as well as pertinent questions.

  32. Marvin says:

    A long time since I’ve posted on here, but still take a look now and again.
    Sorry to hear about your condition Frank, I hope you make a full and speedy recovery.

    I see its not been mentioned on here, but do you know if any 5G towers have been switched on in your area lately?
    It’s not ‘conspiracy theory’ but hard science (physics) that the 60GHz frequency these towers emit,
    breaks the molecular bond between the two oxygen atoms that make up the oxygen molecule.

    As a result the lungs cannot get enough (real) oxygen into them, resulting in difficulty breathing, shortage of breath, weakness etc.
    Exactly the symptoms you describe.

    As a (retired) Electronics Engineer I know it depends on the power output of the transmitter, (it falls off rapidly with distance.)
    But if there is a mast near you (relatively high power) or further away (relatively low power) the low ‘dosage’ over a prolonged period of time
    could result in exactly the same symptoms.

    I’m not trying to spread alarm, but far more testing needs to be done on the health effects of 60GHz 5G
    and NOT by the vested interests that control it.

    All the best Frank.

    • Joe L. says:

      Thanks for mentioning 5G, Marvin. There have been plenty of conspiracy theories making the rounds these days, as the number of 5G transceivers has been on the rise at the same time a respiratory condition has been sweeping the globe. However, what you wrote about the 60GHz frequency weakening the molecular bond between oxygen atoms is absolutely true, and the fact that Frank claims his breathing difficulties started suddenly one day could lend itself to this theory if a new 5G transceiver was powered up near Frank in January.

      I also read an account (albeit, third-hand) from a doctor who claimed that he noticed blood oxygen levels were lower on average among the population (US, I believe) over the past 6 or so months, even before COVID-19 exploded in China. If true, this coincides with the growing expansion of 5G networks. Definitely food for thought.

  33. Walt Cody says:

    The phone won’t do it, Frank. You need an EKG, a breathing test, a chest xray and/ or CT Scan and some blood tests. Stop being an asshole and go get em. The least awful thing it could be is a walking pneumonia that some antibiotics could get rid of pretty fast. There are no Scout Points for being a stoic and no home remedies that are going to work. Get to a doctor.

  34. smokingscot says:

    @ Rose,

    His email is publicly available in the bit at the top “About”. So to save time:

    cfrankdavis AT googlemail.com

    Feel free to pester him mercilessly. If he goes all coy, I have his home address as well as his BT number. Give him until Wednesday 7th, then if you give me your email – front page of my site, way down the page, I am prepared to break all confidences and give them to you.

  35. RdM says:

    Here’s another angle.

    Do a search on “heart valve stenosis”.

    short quote from results:
    ‘the body may suffer from a reduced supply of oxygen’

    I was alerted to this re-reading fiction, my 14 library books for 4 weeks having been read, and in The Ottoman Secret, by Raymond Khoury, an alternate speculative history where (with a bit of time travel thrown in) “Paris, 2017. The Ottoman Empire has ruled Europe for 300 years” – and the protagonist is in hospital with it getting explained to him… p.34.

    “I imagine you’ve been feeling very tired and short of breath lately, yes?”

    So I suggest you approach your doctor with full curiosity and truth, and get checked for that too.

    (In that case, the mitral valve, but there are four valves in the heart.)

    Best wishes!!!

    And best intelligence!

    Just get a full check out / examination with all you know so far.
    Especially the heart, & etc.

    We know it’s in a good place, but let’s make sure it’s in working, pumping order! ;=})

    Come back on that.

    ~ RdM

  36. Andrew Davis says:

    Hi, I’m Andrew, Frank’s brother. Frank has had a bit of a rough ride this week. But we now have the doctors on board and he was taken to hospital yesterday evening. They are making a fuller assessment of his condition and I’ll be speaking to them later on today. The paramedics were upbeat about the future but the specialists still need to look him over. I’ll get back to you when I’ve more news.
    I’d like to thank everybody for their concern.

    • Many MANY thanks Andrew! :) When you DO get to see/speak with Frank, let him know that we’ve been diligently keeping the world safe for humanity while awaiting his return!

      :)
      Michael

  37. Emily says:

    I just wanted to let everyone know, I’ve emailed Frank’s brother and he let me know that Frank is in the hospital as of yesterday evening. He says “They are making a fuller assessment of his condition and I’ll be speaking to them later on today. The paramedics were upbeat about the future but the specialists still need to look him over.”

    Hoping for the very best news, I’ll let you know if I hear anything.

  38. smokingscot says:

    He once said he has more friends now than before the ban.

    This post shows he wasn’t fibbing.

    Thanks Emily.

  39. Lepercolonist says:

    Thanks Emily. I miss Frank.

  40. Andrew Davis says:

    trying to log in

  41. slugbop007 says:

    There is a nitiric oxide product available called Inomax.

    Have you checked for mold in your home? Maybe some sneaked in during that winter storm? Other stuff does, like comet debris, air pollution and the like.

    slugbop007

    • Rose says:

      You can keep up with the latest stories here, SB

      Nitric Oxide
      https://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/?searchheadlines=1&search=nitric%20oxide

      Nicotine is more or less same old, same old as anti-tobacco react
      https://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/?searchheadlines=1&search=nicotine

      But it’s where the results of the French study will come through first.
      I still think that nicotine patches will do more harm than good.

      • Александра Собина says:

        Agree, I think the same, there will be more harm from patches. But pharma wants funds. Who will use their patches if tobacco as the best natural product will become affordable.

        • Rose says:

          That said, if nicotine did save non smokers from coronavirus, it would put ASH and TC in a very difficult position , because they would have to admit that nicotine even as a base product was medicinal.

          But they’ve tried to use nicotine patches to treat dementia, alzheimers, ulcerative colitis and parkinson’s if memory serves but never appear to have been successful, because the nicotine we smoke has been cured, aged and oxidized by fire and a different thing entirely. But they won’t admit it.

          However when I came to my own conclusion on what happened when nicotine burned,
          The Research and Development records published under the Master Settlement agreement and never ment to be published where very forthcoming.

          “Conrad Arnold Elvehjem was internationally known as an American biochemist in nutrition. In 1937 he identified a molecule found in fresh meat and yeast as a new vitamin, nicotinic acid , now called niacin. His discovery led directly to the cure of human pellagra, once a major health problem in the United States.”

          “Pellagra defines systemic disease as resulting from a marked cellular deficiency of niacin. It is characterized by 4 “D’s”: diarrhea, dermatitis, dementia, and death.”

          P. Lorillard Company
          Tobacco-Cigarettes-Cigars
          Middletown Branch
          OHIO
          Nicotinic acid – 1941 (p.2)
          “We find that the smoke from ordinary Ripple cigarettes contains the anti-pellagra vitamin or nicotinic acid in fairly substantial amounts. However, the quantity is probably too low for a man to rely upon this source alone for his nicotinic acid requirement. At least to do so he would find it necessary to smoke an unreasonable number”
          “You will recall that in our letter of March 11th we doubted that vitamins could be absorbed from tobacco smoke by the throat and lung tissues. However, we have now found that nicotinic acid is dissolved in the saliva of the smoker when smoking ordinary cigarettes, and even in greater amounts when smoking cigarettes made from the enriched tobacco. Thus, the vitamin does not have to be absorbed thru the lungs, but will be swallowed in the approved manner. These conclusions are based on actual analysis of saliva, collected from a smoker while smoking.
          In other words, we analyzed the saliva, which would have otherwise been swallowed. No Nicotinic Acid occurred in the smoker’s saliva before smoking. We feel that we have made this report sufficiently long to cover the discoveries, which we regard as quite remarkable”

          LAB OF INDUSTRIAL HYGIENE,VITAMIN TESTING NEW YORK
          1944

          THE ABSORPTION OF NIACIN IN THE SMOKING OF CIGARETTES
          “The niacin content of unfortified tobacco was found to be 0.13mg. niacin over three fourths of the cigarette.”

          This is a confidential report which may be used when requested by physicians and health officials, but is not to be used in any form of advertising.”

          LORILLARD RESEARCH ON NICOTINIC ACID – Conrad Elvehejm
          “Parmele informed Mr Riefner that work on nicotinic acid could be confirmed free of charge by Dr Elvehjem at the University of Wisconsin.
          Dr Elvehjem analyzed samples prepared by Parmele by the microbiological assay method of Snell and Wright. The microbiological method was more specific than the chemical method employed by Parmele.
          Lower levels of nicotinic acid were found, but Parmele’s essential findings were confirmed”

          And that is all it is, which is why Original Twiglets work beautifully to dispel the desire for a cigarette because Brewers yeast was first found to be the cure for Pellagra but the vitamin had already been named Nicotinic Acid after it was discovered through the oxidation of nicotine with acid some years earlier.

          You have to slowly dissolve the Twiglets the mouth not swallow them for it to work though.
          3 worked for me.

    • Александра Собина says:

      It was the first what came in to my mind too. Should be some allergen around.

  42. Claudia says:

    “Editorial: Nicotine and SARS-CoV-2: COVID-19 may be a disease of the nicotinic cholinergic system”: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2214750020302924

    • Joe L. says:

      Thanks for the link, Claudia! Good to see more studies on the subject. However, this study seems a bit unscientific and presumptuous in its belief that nicotine is the only compound in tobacco smoke which protects smokers from the effects of SARS-CoV-2. Take this paragraph, for example (emphasis mine):

      It is obviously inappropriate to suggest that anyone should initiate smoking or to continue to smoke due to the well-established smoking-related morbidities and the large number of potentially toxic chemicals in cigarette smoke. Furthermore, it is unlikely that any other compound in tobacco cigarette smoke, besides nicotine, would be implicated to the potential benefits observed in smokers. Moreover, due to the adverse effects of smoking and the fact that many smokers would suffer from co-morbidities (such as cardiovascular disease, COPD etc.), it is expected that the potential benefits of nicotine would be blunted when observed in smokers.

      Aside from the obligatory “Smoking Kills” disclaimer in the first sentence, note the last sentence — “it is expected that the potential benefits of nicotine would be blunted when observed in smokers”. If this were true, then how was this effect ever noticed in the first place? Clearly smokers are less likely to suffer severe cases of COVID-19, or this trend would have never been discovered in the data to begin with, so the benfits are obviously not “blunted.” The paper goes on to promote the idea that nicotine patches could be used to treat COVID-19. I smell pharmaceutical industry funding all over this study.

  43. slugbop007 says:

    ROSE SAID, MAY 3, 2020: But it’s where the results of the French study will come through first. I still think that nicotine patches will do more harm than good.

    I agree. I think that patches were chosen because they are part of the Tobacco Control Narrative and not because they will be an effective source of treatment. Also, because it is an integral part of the government’s Addiction Prevention program. How about trying Chantix? Pfizer thinks it’s the best nicotine replacement therapy on the market. They spend billions of dollars on advertising every year telling us it is. If those conducting this study are part of the new vanguard of Public Health university graduates I can fully understand that they would not even think of using any other method than the patches, that’s what they were taught and unfailingly believe in. To think otherwise, or to consider trying any other method, would be Heresy.

    slugbop007

  44. Smoking Lamp says:

    Frank, Get well. Sending good wishes your way. SL

  45. Mark Jarratt says:

    I only saw this last night. Worrying. Miss your erudition and mordant wit Frank. Get well soon. You have many friends and supporters. Mark in Canberra. 😣

  46. Rose says:

    This is getting very worrying now.

    A fascinating story

    Dr. Joseph Goldberger &
    the War on Pellagra

    “Pellagra no longer stalks the nation as it once did. But during the early part of the 20th-century, pellagra, a disease that results from a diet deficient in niacin killed, many poor Southerners. Dr. Joseph Goldberger, a physician in the U.S. government’s Hygienic Laboratory, the predecessor of the National Institutes of Health, discovered the cause of pellagra and stepped on a number of medical toes when his research experiments showed that diet and not germs (the currently held medical theory) caused the disease. He also stepped on Southern pride when he linked the poverty of Southern sharecroppers, tenant farmers, and mill workers to the deficient diet that caused pellagra.”
    https://web.archive.org/web/20130625051025/http://history.nih.gov/exhibits/Goldberger/index.html

    Making nicotinic acid/niacin from nicotine the hard way, but the only way Anti-tobacco will accept.

    Organic Syntheses, Coll. Vol. 1, p.385 (1941); Vol. 4, p.49 (1925).

    NICOTINIC ACID
    Submitted by S. M. McElvain
    Checked by J. B. Conant and B. B. Corson.

    1. Procedure
    In a 5-l. round-bottomed flask is placed 4 kg. (2816 cc.) of c.p. concentrated nitric acid (sp. gr. 1.42) (Note 1). To this is added, in 25-cc. portions, 210 g. (1.23 moles) of nicotine (Note 2). The addition should be made carefully in order that local heating may not occur and material be lost. After each addition of nicotine, the flask should be shaken in order to insure a homogeneous solution. The addition of the nicotine causes the temperature of the liquid to rise somewhat but not sufficiently to cause evolution of nitrogen dioxide. The flask is placed on a steam bath under a hood and heated until the liquid reaches a temperature of 70°. It is then removed and the reaction allowed to continue spontaneously (Note 3), sufficient heat being evolved to cause the liquid to boil. The boiling ceases after one hour, but the flask is replaced upon the steam bath for ten to twelve hours, during which time there is a more or less continuous evolution of oxides of nitrogen.
    The contents of the flask are then poured into an evaporating dish and evaporated almost to dryness on the steam bath (about ten hours). The purification which follows is best carried out with the product of two runs such as have been described above.”
    etc
    https://web.archive.org/web/20110114115238/http://www.orgsyn.org/orgsyn/prep.asp?prep=cv1p0385

  47. Clicky says:

  48. Walt Cody says:

    Emily– can you give us more updates?

  49. Igrowmyown says:

    A report on BBC world news confirms that France’s first known coronavirus case was in December 2019.

  50. Rose says:

    1920 Evangelist Billy Sunday declares “Prohibition is won; now for tobacco!

    But like today, a very disruptive thing happened to the religious Prohibitionists.

    Pellagra Cure
    Aug. 22, 1938

    “Over 1,000,000 families in the rural South eat nothing but salt pork, corn meal and molasses. Their members are frequent victims of that painful deficiency disease, pellagra, with its attendant diarrhea, dementia, dermatitis. Physicians have known for nearly 25 years that small amounts of green vegetables and milk will forestall the disease. But still pellagra continues. In its advanced stages it has been considered incurable, since the patients are unable to ingest the necessary kinds of food.”

    “Last week the Journal of the American Medical Association printed two articles on pellagra showing the startlingly beneficial results of a new treatment.”
    “Nicotinic acid, a distant relative (about second cousin once removed) of tobacco’s nicotine, is found in yeast, wheat germ and liver. When considerable quantities were fed to some 300 patients with pellagra, their sores healed, their cramps disappeared.

    Even patients who were violently insane dramatically regained their wits within 48 hours”
    http:.//content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,788409,00.html

    The plan was to put it in the bread and save all those lives.

    The Nation’s Food – 1941

    “A necessary vitamin is B—a group of at least half a dozen different chemicals. Most radio listeners, said Vice President Wallace last week, know B as the “oomph vitamin, that puts the sparkle in your eye, the spring in your step, the zip in your soul!” Vitamin B is found abundantly in whole wheat and coarse grains, is appreciably reduced in the milling process, when the rough coat is “scalped”‘ from wheat kernel.

    Most of the big flour mills and bakers have recently agreed to put vitamin B1; nicotinic acid and iron back into their flour and bread. But experts last week pointed out that such “enriched bread,” although a step forward, was not the ideal solution of the problem.”
    http: //content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,795342,00.html

    But while people were still sick and dying there was great objection from the religious prohibitionists who having nearly won, thought to lose all credibility and people might take up smoking because of the vitamin in the bread.
    They ended up arguing over a name.

    The problem was eventually solved by the American Medical Association

    Nicotinic Acid vs. Nicotine

    1942 Ministry Magazine

    “Some have apparently gained misleading impressions from recent press reports to the effect that nicotinic acid is now to be derived from the tobacco plant. Information at hand indicates that individuals have con­cluded from these reports that nicotinic acid is of the nature of nicotine, and therefore undesirable as a product in the “enriched” flour program that has recently been launched —a program that deserves hearty endorsement.

    Nicotinic acid is the term given to one of the dietary essentials for complete nutrition. This factor is quite widely distributed in na­ture in various plants and foods, as milk, eggs, wheat germ, and green vegetables, and is also derived from brewers’ yeast. It is produced synthetically for commercial use. Nicotinic acid does not in all- respects conform to the nature of a vitamin (it partakes of the nature of a coenzyme) ; yet because of the close rela­tionship which lack of nicotinic acid bears to dietary-deficiency disease, particularly pellagra, it is classed with the vitamins.

    The name “nicotinic acid” was attached to this factor because of the fact that it was first isolated during the chemical study of the tobacco plant. However, one is not to be misled by this association, for there is no rela­tionship, as relates to effects and actions in the body, between nicotine and nicotinic acid. In fact, authorities in the field of chemistry and nutrition are proposing that the name “nicotinic acid” be changed.

    Nicotinic acid is found rather bountifully in the wheat germ. Flour made from the entire wheat kernel needs no enrichment, of course, but since it is not possible to commercially supply the general population with such entire-grain flour, the enrichment program is a lauda­ble step taken to overcome the ill results of the extensive use of white flour.

    Nicotinic acid is present in the wheat kernel; else why would it be added to white flour to more nearly restore all the properties of the original grain ? Had some other common name been given to this important antipellagra factor, as indeed will no doubt be done soon, no objection would have been made to this chem­ical substance, which is one of the links of the dietary chain needed for optimal growth and buoyant health. Any implication or indication that flour enriched by the addition of nicotinic acid contains nicotine, or is undesirable be­cause of that addition, we regard as very unfortunate, misleading, and wholly contrary to established scientific evidence.”
    https://www.ministrymagazine.org/archive/1942/01/nicotinic-acid-vs.-nicotine

    And they did change the name.

    The Journal of the American Medical Association – 1942

    “A poor name is a handicap to the promotion of a meritorious product. The name “nicotinic acid” for the vitamin so important in the prevention of pellagra has been doubly unfortunate. To the general public the word “nicotinic” implies too strongly the relationship of this vitamin to nicotine, the chief alkaloid of tobacco often used as an insecticide. The term “acid” denotes a corrosive substance such as the liquid used in automobile storage batteries. The vitamin called “nicotinic acid” was first produced in the laboratory in 1867 by the oxidation of nicotine with potassium chromate and sulfuric acid. Later the compound was named nicotinic acid because it had been made from nicotine and it had the ability to form salts. As a laboratory curiosity, which it remained for over seventy years, nicotinic acid was adequately named.
    From the point of view of those interested in furthering the distribution of foods enriched with this dietary essential the name has proved unsuitable.”

    Following the announcement of proposed regulations for enriched bread by the Food and Drug Administration, a well known trade publication announced the event with the heading “Tobacco in your Bread”
    http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=254218

    The Jama article goes on to point out that the nicotinic acid is going to be made from a derivative of coal tar.

  51. slugbop007 says:

    I am presently listening to Henry Purcell’s Tavern Songs, performed by the Alfred Deller Consort. Good boost for morale.

    slugbop007

    • RdM says:

      I love Baroque music, that’s a new one for me. Thanks.

      First track at least, maybe more in the sidebar (tailored for algorithm you;-)

      Henry Purcell — Come let us drink — Deller Consort

      An alternate video, with the score, so that you can read the words as they’re sung:

      I’ll follow up with O Metaphysical Tobacco from the Purcell Consort in a moment…

    • RdM says:

      O Metaphysical Tobacco from the Purcell Consort – the single track.
      (Somebody has created an alternate cover, or it’s a different album from the below:)

      I have the, this whole album transcribed from LP into .flac lossless files at home.
      That was track 09 out of 18 from the whole Argo LP, which appears to be here:
      (Uploaded by someone else, but glad to find it already has been, whatever quality!)

      Reminds me of …

      Living In The Past – Jethro Tull

      Happy and I’m smilin’, walk a mile to drink your water
      You know I’d love to love you and above you there’s no other
      We’ll go walking out while others shout of war’s disaster

      Oh, we won’t give in, let’s go living in the past

      Once I used to join in, every boy and girl was my friend
      Now there’s revolution but they don’t know what they’re fighting
      Let us close our eyes, outside their lives go on much faster

      Oh, we won’t give in, we’ll keep living in the past
      Oh, we won’t give in, let’s go living in the past
      Oh no, no, we won’t give in, let’s go living in the past

      _

      And the future, of course ! ;=}))

    • RdM says:

      Or could that be Bohemian rather than Baroque?

      Like:

      Just 1:37 min. I have that album too.

      Becomes a bit oompapah after a while, perhaps, like Oktoberfest maybe…

      Anyway, just a time out sequence.
      Intriguing at least for a few moments.

      Billions of other stuff on Youtube of course.

  52. Emily says:

    Hi all- an update from Frank’s brother, testing is still going on but at least he has been moved from the acute ward, which seems positive.

    He’s been moved out of the acute ward into a general one which can be thought of as a positive. I’ve only managed to speak to nursing staff. They have mentioned reducing fluid in his legs, cardiology tests and medication, concerns about him eating properly and waiting for the physiotherapist to report. So a fair amount seems to be going on.

    Because of Covid they are not allowed to visit but hopefully he will be speaking with him on the phone today.

    • Igrowmyown says:

      Thank you Emily.

    • Fredrik says:

      Thanks Emily,
      let’s hope they find out what is wrong.

    • beobrigitte says:

      Thanks for the update, Emily.
      If you text/speak with Frank, I send my regards and get well soon wishes!

    • Elizabeth says:

      Thank you.

    • Joe L. says:

      Thanks for the update, Emily. Sounds positive overall, which is good, but I feel bad for Frank all alone in a hospital, unable to have visitors, unable to smoke and without a means to communicate with us here on his blog. I know a few years ago Frank mentioned having an Asus netbook. I’m not sure if it’s still in working order, but since he can’t have visitors, I don’t even know whether his brother could pick it up from his home and drop it off for him. As Frank has been a life-long journaler, I hope the hospital staff has at least been able to provide him with a notebook he can use as a temporary journal to maintain a tiny sense of normalcy for the duration of his stay.

      • RdM says:

        Yes, seconded. If his brother could bring it in, if he was allowed to visit…
        If Frank didn’t have time to grab it before he was taken away…
        We all have to wait. So does he. All hoping for the best, then.

        Be Well, Frank!

      • RdM says:

        On the other hand, he’s quite possibly or probably been quite alert through everything, and recording it mentally as one does, and will provide a relieved and relaxed update when he gets out, tobacco or no tobacco, and comment on the whole event, as one might.

        Let’s hope all goes well, as it well may do.

    • smokingscot says:

      For sure he’s not been eating properly. When he said he enjoyed takeaway pizza and burgers, that was it for me. Fluid buildup in his legs isn’t good, though he is at last getting a long overdue checkup.

      Many thanks for your updates. Very appreciated.

      • RdM says:

        Yes, as someone who almost always cooks at home, a rare treat out barely a few times a year, the idea of subsisting on take-aways seems to me hideous and a starvation diet.

        Still, there may yet be some good ideas here. seen before, perhaps.

        http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/healthy-eating_index.html
        http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/cardiovascular.html

        A trouble perhaps is that most takeaway foods now are cooked with vegetable oils, which on recent research turn out to be not so healthy at all, after all…

        Look up bruce fife coconut research for more on that.
        I get his newsletter. I bought some organic coconut ‘oil’ (a semi-solid in a jar).
        It tastes great with fish or chicken, or for vegans, anything you like as protein.

        But I have extra virgin olive oil and butter as well.

        Tofu? But I think soy may have some weird caveats as well… to be investigated.

        Rambling on … ;=})

  53. Rose says:

    Thank you, Emily.

  54. Александра Собина says:

    Thank you Emily.

  55. Александра Собина says:

    Simon Clark
    How ASH turned the views of just SIX smokers into a headline-grabbing 300k
    http://taking-liberties.squarespace.com/blog/2020/5/5/how-ash-turned-the-views-of-just-six-smokers-into-a-headline.html
    (Stop laughing at the back!)

  56. Rose says:

    I have been looking for something like this ever since Covid 19 and a Nitric Oxide cure became a possibilty.

    Its from 1986 and they still think that nicotine is unique to tobacco!
    I’ve been unable so far, to find how long nitric oxide lasts in the air, apart from the fact it’s short lived.

    National Research Council (US) Committee on Passive Smoking.
    Washington (DC): National Academies Press (US); 1986.

    The Physicochemical Nature of Sidestream Smoke Environmental Tobacco Smoke
    1986

    TABLE 2-5

    “Freshly generated tobacco smoke contains nitric oxide, but not nitrogen dioxide. On release into the environment, nitric oxide is gradually oxidized to nitrogen dioxide. The estimated half-life of nitric oxide is 10-20 minutes, depending on the degree of air dilution”
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK219214/

    I don’t have much hope of 10-20 minutes being true, but a fraction of that would good.

    Table 2-9
    “Tobacco is the only known source of nicotine,” Yeah right.

    Can Inhaling Nitric Oxide Treat — Or Prevent — COVID-19? MGH Wants To Find Out
    April 10, 2020
    https://www.wbur.org/commonhealth/2020/04/10/nitric-oxide-gas-mass-general-coronavirus-tests

    So do I.

    Nitric Oxide Inhibits the Replication Cycle of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus
    https ://jvi.asm.org/content/79/3/1966

    If it’s all true then if smoking had still been allowed in at least some enclosed public places in Britain like other countries, we wouldn’t now have worst Corvid 19 figures in Europe.

  57. slugbop007 says:

    This is an interesting article from Newsweek, dated April 27, 2020, on the Wuhan Lab:

    https://www.newsweek.com/controversial-wuhan-lab-experiments-that-may-have-started-coronavirus-pandemic-1500503

    Get well soon, Mr. Davis.

    slugbop007

  58. Rose says:

    Well what do you know.

    M&S expands home-delivery service from 142 UK stores on Deliveroo – before its £750m Ocado deal is due to begin in September
    4 May 2020

    “M&S have made more than 130 food and household items available on Deliveroo
    There is a £4.99 delivery charge but all other costs remain the same as in store”
    M&S have expended their Deliveroo range and will deliver store favourites to customers’ doors in 30 minutes amid coronavirus lockdown.

    The upmarket grocer had a trial partnership with Deliveroo and after its success, have made more than 130 M&S food, beverage and household items available across the country.

    You can get favourites such as Gastropub meals, ready-prepared Indian, Chinese and Italian dishes, fresh produce and even packs of Percy Pigs delivered to your door.”
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8285925/M-S-launches-home-delivery-142-UK-stores-Deliveroo-750m-Ocado-deal-September.html

    I wonder if Frank’s town is on the list.
    They do some excellant meals for one, we frequently have different things for lunch and tea.

  59. Александра Собина says:

    From 20th of May Menthol tobacco will be band in the UK and EU.
    http://taking-liberties.squarespace.com/blog/2020/5/6/countdown-to-prohibition.html

  60. Walt Cody says:

    Something’s wrong with a medical system in which you’ve been in the ICU for several days and still haven’t had crucial diagnostic tests. Fluid retention in the legs is a cardiac symptom. I also find I’m distressed that his brother can’t get in touch with a doctor or get any real information. Don’t know why he accepts that. You can’t be polite and obedient about these things; you need to be insistent.

  61. slugbop007 says:

    RdM says: May 6, 2020 at 7:31 am I love Baroque music, that’s a new one for me. Thanks.

    You’re welcome. Lots of other bawdy tavern songs from that era besides Henry Purcell. In those days, wenching was all the rage. Nowadays people only get enraged.

    Your LP was on Argo. I haven’t seen that name in 50 years or so. There was Angel, Seraphim, Decca, EMI, Turnabout is Fair Play and a whole lot more record companies that were part of my collection. You love Baroque music. How about Gustav Leonhardt? First Class. Igor Kipnis for Bach harpsichord, as well as Francois Couperin’s harpsichord music, Dowland’s songs and lute music,Vivaldi’s concertos, trumpet fanfares, Gabrieli’s brass music and The Philip Jones Brass Ensemble. All quality stuff. Biber and Kuhnau are also quite good. I am presently working on a new mix of Battelmusik. I found over 500 audio files from the era that I will attempt to put in an interesting order.

    I spent most of my morning today at this web site: https://charm.rhul.ac.uk/sound/sound_search_help.html

    It is a music archive from King’s College London, Strand, London WC2R 2LS, England, United Kingdom. Tel +44 (0)20 7836 5454. They are mostly 78rpm audio files ant they offer free downloads. Some of them are a bit tricky. Go to Sound Files/Search. Lots of Bach, Mozart and Beethoven for starters. There is more than just classical music. There are radio shows and other goodies as well. The site has been up for almost ten years now.

    Cheers! slugbop007

    • RdM says:

      A kind reply;- thanks!

      Let me hasten to add – that Argo LP I “have” is someone else’s transcription from LP, as .flac files, with cover art. I was just pleased to find someone else had uploaded to YT.

      But in my actual LP collection, of which I entertain thoughts about transcribing similarly to 24/96 flac files, &or down to CD quality 16/44, after perhaps cleaning some or most with a DIY, first thoughts vacuum cleaning machine, later now an ultrasonic tank cleaner, and it’s spread across several shelves in two rooms, I do find some of those labels.

      I suppose I went through spasms, many months or years apart, of collecting – buying new or secondhand – LPs, or downloading from a trove of enthusiasts uploads as above.

      It’s been a while since I accumulated any new.
      Most recent was Keith Jarrett The Koln Concert on ECM label, late last year.
      RealGroovy (dot co dot nz) is a large new & s/h record store very near me.

      Actually a treasured harpsichord owned LP is Keith Jarrett playing the Bach Goldberg Variations at some mountain studio in Japan, again on ECM.

      I do have Gustav Leonhardt playing Bach Two Suites for Harpsichord BWV 1010/995 on the Pro-Arte label on a bought LP.

      A couple of LPs from Angel records, and Turnabout, of course many from EMI and Decca, don’t seem to have Seraphim, but some also on Archiv, Vox, Odyssey, Nonesuch, Harmonia Mundi, others, – and on CBS Masterworks, how about

      Canadian Brass – Bach: Art Of The Fugue.
      I’ve only played it a few times. Like so many others. Very bright!
      I may have heard of your mentioned The Philip Jones Brass Ensemble.

      I also found in great condition s/h from RealGroovy about 15 LPs from MHS, Musical Heritage Society, from the US, mostly baroque, Bach, Beethoven, Gothic, Haydn, Scarlatti, Telemann, Vivaldi, & others.
      Seem to be quality productions. Only a few $ each!

      I have more, maybe 20 boxed sets, and many hundreds of LPs yet to sort out.

      You wrote of your collection in the past tense.
      “that were part of my collection.”
      Is that so? What happened?

      I also do not understand what you mean by
      “I am presently working on a new mix of Battelmusik.”

      Looking up Battelmusik brings many results… maybe I get the gist, but am unsure.
      But thanks for the last link, glanced at but will need to explore in depth.

      More free music resource exchanges later, perhaps?

      I do note that there have been a lot of resources put up internationally in this time.
      Here’s a small collection of links at a local NZ blog I subscribe to:

      https://darklantern.proboards.com/thread/2145/online-concerts

      (And if you look around you’ll find DIY ultrasonic record cleaning & etc.)

      In summary, again thanks for the kind detailed reply, cheers, and let’s go on!

      The SDB has been a bit deserted it seems recently, but it might be great to meet you there;- you just need a webcam & mic, or laptop with both built-in.

      I note Gary K plays recorder too! ;=})

      (I was wondering if we could organise a duet, and present it. Looked up some.)
      (But I’ve lost his email address, if I had it, and need to meet again to check.)

      Gary? Maybe in a few hours, 12 or so? Late UK time seems to be popular.

      Best regards!

      And of course: Cheers!! ;=}))

    • RdM says:

      Is this real? It looks it;- before non smoking?

      I love the now many varieties of jazz as well.
      Nordic, Scandinavian European & American modern jazz especially.
      All sorts.
      Well, maybe not so much the very very early dixie stuff.
      But still! Lots and lots. So much is out there now.

      No jazz in a park?

      It has to be a put-on, a fake, or take, surely? Maybe not?

      No smoking either? Not mentioned. Jazz was the problem there…

      Symbols of freedom, perhaps …

  62. slugbop007 says:

    To Walt Cody:

    I, too, am wondering and worryiing why it’s taking these people so long to diagnose Mr. Davis’s condition.

    slugbop007

  63. Joe L. says:

    This is the kind of news I was afraid of reading in the aftermath of the COVID-19 lockdowns.

    Native American reservations here in the US are not bound to the laws of the state in which they are located. That means that statewide comprehensive smoking bans do not apply on their land. Therefore, many reservations are home to casinos (which are also illegal in many states), and these casinos have continued to allow patrons to smoke. However, I just learned of a Native American casino here in Washington State which reopened this week after being forced to close due to the statewide shelter-in-place order, and has voluntarily decided to ban smoking throughout its facilities upon reopening:

    Angel of the Winds Casino to go 100% smoke-free after reopening

    ARLINGTON, Wash. – The Angel of the Winds Casino Resort near Arlington will be going 100% smoke-free when it reopens after the coronavirus shutdown.

    The casino, operated by the Stillaguamish Tribe, has been closed since Gov. Jay Inslee’s stay-home order on March 23. The casino is currently planning to reopen on Monday, May 4.

    When it does reopen, smoking will be banned in the entire complex, including the gaming floor, hotel, bowling alley and other facilities.

    The tribe did not specify a reason for the change, but casino operators said in a Facebook post that they were “thrilled” to share the news.

    On the casino’s website is a large banner which reads, “For your health and wellness, we’re now 100% smoke free!” I fear this is a foreboding of our post-COVID-19 world. Obviously, the owners of this casino are so “thrilled” to ban smoking that they have not paid attention to any of the studies which indicate smokers are far less likely to suffer sever symptoms of COVID-19 (or they simply don’t care). The ironic thing here is since this casino has banned smoking, they will most likely attempt to save money by decreasing the number of air changes in the casino, thus actually making it more likely for people to spread respiratory diseases like COVID-19 (much like the airlines did decades ago).

    Since I moved to Washington a few years ago, I have found myself visiting Native American casinos (not this particular one, thankfully) during the winters, because there is rarely a day from October-May without precipitation, and they are the only public places where I can smoke in shelter and comfort, so this hits really close to home for me. I sincerely hope this casino is alone in their decision to ban smoking, and I hope their former patrons take their business to smoker-friendly casinos and put the Angel of the Winds Casino out of business.

    • Александра Собина says:

      They deserve to be put out of business. Hope others would not follow them.

  64. Emily says:

    Hi all- regarding the diagnosis of Frank’s condition, I think part of the issue is that during this Covid crisis the hospital is disinclined to give specifics over the phone, as they don’t really know who they are speaking to. This is what Frank’s brother, Andrew, has indicated to me (BTW, Andrew has tried to post comments here but they went into moderation, unfortunately.) He says:

    The people I speak to on Frank’s ward respond in general terms. I think they are disinclined to speak in specifics as they don’t really know who they are talking to on the phone – I could be anyone! It is very difficult for everyone at the moment…I spoke with Frank yesterday and he was explaining that the physiotherapist was positive about his progress. The nurse I spoke with later mentioned that the i/v infusions had ended but she wasn’t prepared to speculate how much longer he would be with them. I hope I’ll get a little clarification today.

    • Claudia says:

      Thanks again, Emily!

    • Rose says:

      Thank you, Emily.

    • smokingscot says:

      Physiotherapist is very good. IV is also good. So far no need to cut, so let’s hope it stays that way. Could be his self diagnosis of needing a walking stick because of vertigo was incorrect. And that business of not heating his apartment in winter was just nuts.

      I’d be willing to bet Frank hasn’t had a 30 minute walk for ages, let alone one five days a week. If you don’t use your muscles you lose them – and the bit that makes all that happen. His heart.

      Huge thank you Emily, and Andrew.

    • Elizabeth says:

      Thank you Emily.

    • Egg says:

      Thank you Emily. I’m a long time reader as well.

  65. Thank you for news on Frank. Please send him best wishes from a long term reader..

  66. Александра Собина says:

    Thank you Emily!

  67. slugbop007 says:

    BTW, Andrew has tried to post comments here but they went into moderation, unfortunately.

    Who the H…! is monitoring the comments of Mr. Davis’s brother? Even Van Gogh had an easier time communicating with his brother Theo than Andrew appears to be having with his brother Frank. Weird.

    Tell Andrew to try accessing his brother’s blog and then reply at the very top of the page. I can’t reply at the bottom of the blog for some reason anymore so that’s how I got around that problem.

    slugbop007

    • Joe L. says:

      Who the H…! is monitoring the comments of Mr. Davis’s brother?

      Moderation is a feature Frank enabled on his blog. Comments from first-time commenters (based on the email address provided) must be approved by Frank before they appear to the public. This is to prevent getting spammed by trolls. I believe Frank then has the choice of approving the message on a one-time basis, or he can whitelist the email address so that all future comments from that user are automatically approved, once he trusts the user. Also, from my personal experience, WordPress will place a comment in moderation if it contains more than two hyperlinks, regardless of whether the commenter has been whitelisted. Andrew is not a regular commenter, so his comments are awaiting Frank’s approval, unfortunately.

  68. slugbop007 says:

    The public health authorities in Montreal, Quebec, are worried because one more person is dying per day over the past two months in my neck of the woods than last year. It’s as if we are all supposed to be following a rigid, statistical model for mortality rates. I wonder what Neil Ferguson would say about that. And the recent PHE study that announced that 300,000 people quit smoking in the past two months based on Modeling statistics. Hmm?

    slugbop007

    • Joe L. says:

      Oh, you mean Neil Ferguson, the man who develops wildly inaccurate computer models which incite health scares, the latest of which was used as the foundation for the current house arrest of millions of citizens? The same Neil Ferguson who violated the very lockdown orders that he helped create because he couldn’t refrain from having an affair with a married woman? Good riddance, Neil Ferguson.

      ‘Professor Lockdown’ Modeler Resigns in Disgrace

      Neil Ferguson is the British academic who created the infamous Imperial College model that warned Boris Johnson that, without an immediate lockdown, the coronavirus would cause 500,000 deaths and swamp the National Health Service.

      Johnson’s government promptly abandoned its Sweden-like “social distancing” approach, and Ferguson’s model also influenced the U.S. to make lockdown moves with its shocking prediction of over two million Americans dead.

      Johan Giesecke, the former chief scientist for the European Center for Disease Control and Prevention, has called Ferguson’s model “the most influential scientific paper” in memory. He also says it was, sadly, “one of the most wrong.”

      With all of his influence, it’s not surprising British media are making a great deal about Ferguson being forced to resign from the government’s virus advisory board yesterday after revelations he had violated lockdown rules he had championed in order to conduct an affair with a married woman. Ferguson admits he made an “error of judgement and took the wrong course of action.”

      Ferguson’s hypocritical violation of his beloved lockdown was the least of his errors in judgment. His incompetence and insistence on doomsday models is far worse.

      Elon Musk calls Ferguson an “utter tool” who does “absurdly fake science.” Jay Schnitzer, an expert in vascular biology and a former scientific direct of the Sidney Kimmel Cancer Center in San Diego, tells me: “I’m normally reluctant to say this about a scientist, but he dances on the edge of being a publicity-seeking charlatan.”

      Indeed, Ferguson’s Imperial College model has been proven wildly inaccurate. To cite just one example, it saw Sweden paying a huge price for no lockdown, with 40,000 COVID deaths by May 1, and 100,000 by June. Sweden now has 2,854 deaths and peaked two weeks ago. As Fraser Nelson, editor of Britain’s Spectator, notes: “Imperial College’s model is wrong by an order of magnitude.”

      Indeed, Ferguson has been wrong so often that some of his fellow modelers call him “The Master of Disaster.”

      Ferguson was behind the disputed research that sparked the mass culling of eleven million sheep and cattle during the 2001 outbreak of foot-and-mouth disease. He also predicted that up to 150,000 people could die. There were fewer than 200 deaths. Charlotte Reid, a farmer’s neighbor, recalls: “I remember that appalling time. Sheep were left starving in fields near us. Then came the open air slaughter. The poor animals were panic stricken. It was one of the worst things I’ve witnessed. And all based on a model — if’s but’s and maybe’s.”

      In 2002, Ferguson predicted that up to 50,000 people would likely die from exposure to BSE (mad cow disease) in beef. In the U.K., there were only 177 deaths from BSE.

      In 2005, Ferguson predicted that up to 150 million people could be killed from bird flu. In the end, only 282 people died worldwide from the disease between 2003 and 2009.

      In 2009, a government estimate, based on Ferguson’s advice, said a “reasonable worst-case scenario” was that the swine flu would lead to 65,000 British deaths. In the end, swine flu killed 457 people in the U.K.

      Last March, Ferguson admitted that his Imperial College model of the COVID-19 disease was based on undocumented, 13-year-old computer code that was intended to be used for a feared influenza pandemic, rather than a coronavirus. Ferguson declined to release his original code so other scientists could check his results. He only released a heavily revised set of code last week, after a six-week delay.

      So the real scandal is: Why did anyone ever listen to this guy?

  69. Walt Cody says:

    Emily– can you advise him that the hospital can confirm on the phone who he is if he has a listed phone number. He can just call and then tell him to call him back. Relatives are entitled to information. Perhaps he can even go into a local police precinct, present ID, and call from there with a cop saying, Yes, he is who he says. He needs to at least know what the diagnosis is–if one has even been made.

    • RdM says:

      Much more trusting in NZ.
      When I rang, two different hospitals re my mother, they accepted my bona fides over the phone, and nurses were happy to speak with me, or bring the phone to her.
      Perhaps just because it’s a small country.
      But who else than a relative or friend might ring up, after all?
      He should or could perhaps escalate the call to a supervisor if thwarted?
      Put them in their place.
      Get them on side.

  70. slugbop007 says:

    I am not satisfied with Neil Fergusom just resigning in disgrace because of an indiscretion. I want to know why his models were followed to the letter for so many years after being so inaccurate. That is a far worse scandal.

    slugbop007

    • Joe L. says:

      I completely agree. While the circumstances surrounding his resignation are certainly disgraceful, it’s practically (possibly literally) a “get out of jail free” card for the scrutiny he truly deserves to face. He has never been–and now will most likely never be–held accountable for any of his fearmongering pseudoscience and lies which, exactly like Antismoking propaganda, have been etched into peoples’ minds, causing irreparable harm to major industries, like the beef industry. And now, thanks to his most recent, incredibly faulty COVID-19 models he has caused irreparable harm to the livelihoods of hundreds of millions of innocent people across the globe. He deserves far worse punishment for what should be classified as crimes against humanity.

  71. Александра Собина says:

    “That is a far worse scandal.”
    Agree.

  72. Clicky says:

  73. Joe L. says:

    Speaking of the disgrace that is Neil Ferguson …

    Frank, when you’re back in top form and in front of your computer again, I think you’ll be very interested to dig into this. Imperial College, London recently published the source code of Ferguson’s COVID-19 simulator on GitHub.

    It is not the original source code Ferguson himself used to generate his original, ridiculously overblown predictions (that was apparently a single source file containing over 15,000 lines of code that had been iterated on for a decade — yikes!), but rather a sanitized version which had already been cleaned up and modified by a team of engineers from Microsoft and other institutions in an attempt to help Imperial College make it work properly (spoiler alert: it’s still broken).

    A professional software engineer anonymously published a scathing code review of Ferguson’s model. While I have yet to peruse the code with my own eyes to confirm, as a professional software engineer myself, the author appears to be very credible. The model was completely incapable of producing replicable results when provided the same set of inputs. For those without a background in software engineering, this paragraph pretty much sums up the quality of Ferguson’s work:

    [Imperial College] know their code can’t withstand scrutiny, so they hid it until professionals had a chance to fix it, but the damage from over a decade of amateur hobby programming is so extensive that even Microsoft were unable to make it run right.

    I’m going to try to compile and run this steaming pile of shit over the weekend, but my PCs aren’t powerful enough to do much with it. According to the documentation, to simulate the whole of the UK requires 20GB of RAM (I should be able to handle this, but I’ll be limited by CPU cores, so it will take forever); other regions require up to 256GB. I guess I could see if my employer could lend me a couple server racks :P

  74. nessimmersion says:

    How about the below as theory for relative infection rates: (lifted from Capitalists at Work):
    Concerning the different effects of government policy in Sweden and the UK, also Germany and the UK, there is another potential explanation of why the UK does worse with lockdown than Sweden does without; also the UK doing worse than Germany with similar lockdown policy.

    This is an argument to be made that smoking – or more specifically nicotine intake – is (somewhat significantly) protective against infection by the coronavirus. It is more common to ignore this in comparing the lockdown policies of otherwise similar nation states in similar geographical zones (eg UK and Sweden, northern hemisphere temperate zone, population density with London somewhat disadvantaging the UK). Improving on this by using knowledge of potential nicotine proteection, we have:
    – Sweden smoking proportions: male 17.5%; female 17.6%
    – Germany smoking proportions: male 30.7%; female 27.7%
    – UK smoking proportions: male 17.3%; female 15.9%

    Going further there is this stuff called snus (a bag of moist smokeless tobacco product, sucked on in the front of the mouth), of which the Swedes are inordinately fond. So for that (and any German and UK smokeless equivalence) we find in Table 2 and Figure 1:
    – Sweden smokeless intake population proportions: male 24.0%; female 7.0%
    – Germany smokeless intake population proportions: male 3.4%; female 3.4%
    – UK smokeless intake population proportions: male 1.6%; female 0.5%

    Combining all this, including the boys and the girls, and ignoring overlap of smoking/smokeless behaviour (which has support elsewhere) gives:
    – Sweden tobacco nicotine takers: 33.1%
    – Germany tobacco nicotine takers: 32.6%
    – UK tobacco nicotine takers: 17.7%
    [Aside: Note that Norway too has a high level of smokeless tobacco consumption.]

    So, by rather simple but probably OK modelling, the Swedish ‘herd protection level’ is around 1.87 times that of the UK (and not the smoking only ratio of 1.06), and the Rt/R0 ratio is scaled down by a factor of around 0.81 times. This is just from the nicotine intake, and a very useful counterweight to the UK’s more stringent lockdown policy – whatever that might contribute. The equivalent figures for Germany compared to the UK are the possibly nicotine ‘herd protection level’ being 1.84 times greater for Germany and the Rt/R0 ratio being better for Germany by a scaling factor of 0.82

    I don’t know whether the nicotine effect is true at all, or has the full effect assumed above, or has some partial effect in between – with the rest covered by other causes including potentially optional protective measures. However, it strikes me as being a plausible hypothesis for explaining much of the poor COVID-19 protection of the UK compared to each of Sweden and Germany.

    • Claudia says:

      Interesting! Thanks for sharing!

    • ness, you noted, “This is an argument to be made that smoking – or more specifically nicotine intake – is (somewhat significantly) protective against infection by the coronavirus.”

      Couple of things:

      (1) Don’t jump on the nicotine bandwagon that Big P is so fond of. The active ingredient(s) might be NOx, CO, mucous, ACE inhibitors, strengthened antibody production or resistance of lung cells in smokers, or other things entirely… with those things any-or-all possibly being unique to smoking tobacco (and thus maybe not to vaping, or marijuana) and some of them just being smoking of either mj OR tobacco). We simply don’t KNOW yet.

      2) The different country theory is good in terms of reopening, but as I’ve been arguing over on Quora, what they really SHOULD be doing in terms of world safety as a “first step” toward reopening is to open hospitality and casino venues ONLY to smoking patrons and staff, since there’d be a VERY small chance of any transmission based on the combination of much higher resistance to infection AND (because of that resistance so far) a much smaller pool of infected to cause any spreading. It would also reduce the chances of a wild mutation that might take whatever protective factor there currently is — and render it totally useless.

      From another angle… have folks given any real thought as to what the world would look like at the moment if this actually WAS a “Smokers’ Disease” instead of a “Nonsmokers’ Disease”? We’d probably all have to register when buying cigarettes AND get at least some sort of temporary tattoo on our forehead or such so people would be warned of small but real danger of infection to them and their children if we were allowed out (or snuck out) into the general public realm. There would ALSO be very serious discussions going on regarding the possibility of an expanded danger to the Nonsmoker population of the Smokers’ Virus mutating as it spread throughout all the smokers with a general easing of their lockdown, with one of those mutations possibly seriously jumping the line to where innocent Nonsmokers would begin falling as fast as their smokey companions.

      Seriously. Think about that scenario and where we’d be at right now. And while thinking about it revisit https://cfrankdavis.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/masterhatefinalc45x30-custom.jpg

      Do you think there’d be ANY possibility of letting the Smokers be part of the first wave of easing the lockdowns? I doubt it.

      – MJM, sending Frank warm wishes in all this…

      • EG says:

        It’s not nicotine. It’s really not even smoking. I think it is the believe thing.
        Smokers have seen their packs go from some ideas that smoking might increase a risk of a lung cancer. Now I can find that my teeth will fall out or I will fall dead as soon as you light up. Smokers stopped believing.
        We just don’t care anymore !
        So, that makes us more relaxed and protects us against many ills.

  75. Added quick note: To get a good grasp of what we’re up against, remember the Antis’ claims that the CDC 7,000 patients study with its 1% smoker population is being dismissed by the Antis partly on the grounds that it’s “too small.” Meanwhile, in early/mid April the Antis pumped out their own Blood ‘n Bells press released response about smokers being 14 times as deadly/infected/dying/variations. Their study had ELEVEN smokers with the active subjects evidently being 3 severe-or-deaths and 2 milder hospitalizations. *THAT* was deemed valid, unlike the weak 7,000 patient CDC study.

    To see the value of the money they’ve got for press releases check out the number of hits on the following Google search:

    “14 times” smokers (coronavirus OR COVID-19)

    just like that. The initial count on my end is 58,000 hits, with several hundred of them being news outlets. You can date-limit it to the first half of April for more specificity if you want.

    OK! That’s all for now!

    – MJM

  76. Emily says:

    Hi all – an update, seems like good news:

    The hospital feel he is now well enough to move on and they are discharging him to a Community Hospital where they can help him recover – this is a not unusual transitional arrangement. The new place will also work out plan to keep him going when he gets home…When he moves on depends when a bed becomes available – and where. I’m hoping we might get a mobile phone or a computer to him there so he has something to focus on.

    I did mention the Asus netbook that Joe L. mentioned above, hopefully that is still in working order.

  77. slugbop007 says:

    TO Joe L.:

    You need a Quantum Computer like Honeywell is currently making. Then you can be One Step Ahead of the hucksters and charlatans.

    https://www.honeywell.com/en-us/newsroom/news/2020/03/quantum-volume-the-power-of-quantum-computers

    We should be extra vigilant about embracing the same narratives that the media and TC disseminate every day. In the case of Mr. Ferguson we should be calling him out for his faulty research techniques, not his dalliance with some married woman. We should not let him off the hook so easily.

    Get well, Mr. Davis!

    slugbop007

  78. slugbop007 says:

    A song from a great Aussie pop group from the 80s:

    INXS ‘Dancing on the Jetty’

    slugbop007

  79. slugbop007 says:

    I subsribed to SPIKED and just received this podcast link yesterday about Neil Ferguson. Going to listen to it immediately.

    https://www.spiked-online.com/podcast-episode/neil-fergusons-staggering-hypocrisy/

    slugbop007

  80. slugbop007 says:

    To Joe L. I don’t know if this was the article that you read on Neil Ferguson.

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/05/06/brutal-takedown-of-fergusons-model/

    It says full article here near the bottom.

    slugbop007

  81. Rose says:

    Smoking Study Adds Fuel to Parkinson’s Debate
    7th May 2020

    Male British physicians who smoked tobacco in 1951 had a 30% lower risk of death from Parkinson’s disease, an analysis of data from the British Doctors Study showed.

    Moreover, doctors who continued to smoke over the years had a 40% lower risk of Parkinson’s mortality, reported Robert Clarke, MD, of the University of Oxford in England, and co-authors.

    As shown in their study online in Neurology, Parkinson’s mortality risk was inversely associated with the amount of tobacco smoked, and for those who quit smoking, the effect was attenuated with increasing time since quitting.

    The findings emerged from 65 years of follow-up with nearly 30,000 male physicians in Great Britain and should not be interpreted to promote smoking, but rather to foster a closer look at why smoking continues to be linked to lower Parkinson’s risk, Clarke said.”

    “The report “demonstrates a causally protective effect of current smoking on risk of Parkinson’s disease,” he continued. While the underlying mechanism is unclear, the most likely explanation is that the nicotine content in tobacco smoke may have protective properties, possibly by stimulating the release of dopamine, but the effects of other components of tobacco cannot be excluded,” he added.”
    https://www.medpagetoday.com/neurology/parkinsonsdisease/86370

    Do these people never talk to each other?

    Why the wicked weed wards off Parkinson’s
    2000
    “A SUBSTANCE that may protect the brain against Parkinson’s disease has been found in tobacco smoke, a discovery that could shed light on the causes of this debilitating condition.

    Researchers have known for decades that smokers are less likely to develop Parkinson’s than non-smokers, but not why. Four years ago, however, Joanna Fowler of Brookhaven National laboratory in New York showed that in long-term smokers a brain enzyme called monoamine oxidase (MAO) is 40 per cent less active.

    The hallmarks of Parkinson’s disease–tremors and a shuffling gait–are thought to be caused by a lack of dopamine, a neurotransmitter in the brain that is crucial for controlling body movement.

    Normally, MAO breaks down such neurotransmitters, but it can also help convert other substances into toxins that poison dopamine-producing brain cells.

    “Intrigued by these findings, Kay and Neal Castagnoli and a team at the Harvey W. Peters Research Center at Virginia Tech set out to identify substances in smoke that inhibit the enzyme. They isolated a compound that blocks MAO’s activity in the test tube, and found that it protected mice from the poisonous effects of MPTP, one of the substances that MAO converts into a toxin, they told the meeting.”
    https: //www.newscientist.com/article/mg16622332-000-why-the-wicked-weed-wards-off-parkinsons/

    Parkinson’s Inhibitor Fingered in Tobacco
    2000

    “They ground up tobacco leaves and tested representative samples in a test tube to see if they inhibited MAO. From the fraction containing the most potent MAO inhibitor, they isolated a chemical known as 2,3,6-trimethyl-1,4-naphthoquinone.

    To find out whether this was a key MAO-inhibitor in cigarette smoke, Castagnoli’s team examined mice in which dopamine-producing neurons were killed with a compound called MPTP that’s converted to a toxin in the brain, causing symptoms much like Parkinson’s disease. Without the naphthoquinone, dopamine levels in the mice given MPTP dropped 60% below normal.

    Yet when the mice were pretreated with naphthoquinone, dopamine levels fell only 40%. This suggests that naphthoquinone “is a good [MAO] inhibitor–not gangbusters, but a good inhibitor,” Castagnoli says.

    Napthoquinone had previously been found in tobacco smoke, but not linked to dopamine.”
    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2000/04/parkinsons-inhibitor-fingered-tobacco

    • Joe L. says:

      The findings emerged from 65 years of follow-up with nearly 30,000 male physicians in Great Britain …”

      65 years of follow-up indicates that smokers are 40% less likely to die from Parkinson’s.This theory is now very well supported.

      … and should not be interpreted to promote smoking, but rather to foster a closer look at why smoking continues to be linked to lower Parkinson’s risk

      Translation: God forbid these results be interpreted to promote smoking. Otherwise Dr. Clarke will be blacklisted from receiving pharmaceutical industry funding for life.

      Rose, you asked, “Do these people never talk to each other?” I believe they do. I assume the conversations go something like the following:

      Scientist 1: “The results of my latest study indicated that smoking tobacco has significant health benefits.”

      Scientist 2: “Interesting. I performed a study a few years ago and reached similar conclusions.”

      Scientist 1: “I wish we could get more funding to explore this further.”

      Scientist 2: “I do too.”

      Scientist 1: “Can I bum a cigarette?”

  82. slugbop007 says:

    More on Ferguson and the lockdown from Toby Young’s blog Lockdown Skeptics: TOBY YOUNG’S BLOG LOCKDOWN SKEPTICS: Dr Lee also has an article in today’s Mail making the same argument and it’s worth reminding ourselves that his views are by no means uncommon in the medical establishment. I was pleased to see this letter from a biology professor in today’s Telegraph: SIR – Science proceeds by putting forward conjectures or hypotheses, collecting empirical data to test them, and accepting, rejecting or modifying them on that basis. The implication is that our scientific understanding is not fixed, but changes as evidence accumulates. In the United Kingdom the initial decision to impose lockdown to control the effects of COVID-19 was based on a conjecture or model that has now been tested against real data and is found to be wanting. The model predicts that, under the sustainable public health measures taken by Sweden and in the absence of lockdown, there should now be 60,000 deaths in that country from Covid-19, whereas there are currently only about 3,000 there, with deaths now well past the peak and declining. Given the failure of the model to make useful predictions, there is no justification for using it to guide future policy. In contrast, large amounts of empirical evidence have now been gathered which demonstrate that for a very large fraction of the population the virus poses a very low risk, while a small fraction – whose immune systems are compromised – are vulnerable. Therefore, to follow the science, an appropriate policy is the targeted shielding of those who choose to be classified as vulnerable, rigorous screening of their carers to prevent transfer of infection to the vulnerable sector, and release from lockdown for those outside these categories. Continuing the blanket lockdown cannot be justified on the basis that it is “following the science”. Professor Richard Ennos, Edinburgh

    THANK YOU PROFESSOR!

    slugbop007

  83. smokingscot says:

    We’re all in this together. Together we’ll beat this thing. Yah yah, yah yah.

    And when we exit lockdown, Mark Prichard, MP would like smokers banned from smoking in outdoor areas, because social distancing will mean innocents will be obliged to join us.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/MPritchardUK/status/1258096839972261888?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Eembeddedtimeline%7Ctwterm%5Eprofile%3ADick_Puddlecote&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fdickpuddlecote.blogspot.com%2F

    Him and Bob Blackman; both certifiable sociopaths, fully intend to make that happen. Not as a temporary thing, no Ladies and Gents, as a permanent change to legislation.

  84. Walt Cody says:

    ROSE, for your files:
    “Exploring causality of the association between smoking and Parkinson’s disease” Gillis et al, | International Journal of Epidemiology, 2018 | Oxford Academic

    Former smokers had a 20% decreased risk and current smokers halved the risk of developing PD compared to never smokers (RR 0.70). A 30% reduced risk was also seen in people exposed to passive smoke compared to those who never smoked. Children of smokers also showed a lower risk of developing the disease.

    https://academic.oup.com/ije/advance-article/doi/10.1093/ije/dyy230/5184917
    see also:
    https://parkinsonsnewstoday.com/2018/11/28/smoking-linked-reduced-parkinsons-risk-but-carries-caveat/

    • Rose says:

      Thanks, Walt.
      Interesting attitude in that study, looking at risk-taking behaviour, is that because we took up smoking despite them telling us not to?
      I always thought it was the fragrance of real tobacco that attracted people to try. Which is probably why they thought up all manner of reasons to ban it in public.

      The obvious question is has there been a rise in Parkinson’s since all the bans and making life generally impossible has been in vogue?

      It seems there has.

      Are we facing a Parkinson’s pandemic?
      2019
      “According to one new study paper, evidence is emerging that Parkinson’s disease is becoming a pandemic. The authors discuss their concerns and the challenges ahead.

      “Historically, Parkinson’s was rare. In 1855, for instance, just 22 people living in the United Kingdom died with Parkinson’s disease.”

      “Globally, neurological disorders are the leading cause of disability. Of these, Parkinson’s disease is the fastest-growing. In 1990–2015, the number of people living with Parkinson’s doubled to more than 6.2 million. By 2040, experts predict that that number will reach 12 million.”

      “For instance, it is a global concern that is present in every region of the planet. It is also becoming more prevalent in all regions that scientists have assessed. Additionally, pandemics tend to move geographically. In the case of Parkinson’s disease, it seems to be moving from West to East as demographics slowly change.”
      https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/324344#Can-we-turn-the-tide?

      The next obvious question is answered here

      Clinical Trials
      Niacin for Parkinsons Disease (NAPS)
      2019
      Detailed Description:

      “Number of people affected by Parkinson’s disease is increasing each year. Vitamin B3 (Niacin/Niacinamide) supplement can be used to slow the progression of PD.

      Inflammation plays a central role in Parkinson’s disease (PD) pathology as evidenced by the presence of microglia in the substantia nigra in post-mortem samples as well as activated microglia and cytokines in clinical and animal studies. The use of non-aspirin non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs was found to reduce the risk of PD. The investigators recently identified an anti-inflammatory receptor GPR109A that is upregulated in PD. Niacin has a high affinity for this receptor, suggesting that it (niacin) may play an important role in reducing inflammation in PD. The investigators also found that individuals with PD have a chronic niacin deficiency. In a three month trial at Augusta University (the investigators’ affiliate) the investigators demonstrated that niacin was helpful for PD patients in reducing inflammatory macrophages and boosting the anti-inflammatory macrophages in blood.

      In this VA-funded study, the investigators will determine the effect of 18 months over-the-counter (OTC) niacin or niacinamide supplementation on inflammation (as assessed in the blood and spinal fluid) and severity of the PD symptoms.”
      https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT03808961

      The decreased risk could be due to a multitude of things in the smoke working together.

      We need to know how it all works so that we can keep on protecting ourselves and those we love from the catastrophic consequences of anti-tobacco’s ignorant zealotry.

      • DP says:

        Dear Rose

        It could simply be that we are living a lot longer than people did in 1855.

        Early onset Parkinson’s disease is variously defined as under 40 or under 50, which is probably a lot higher than the average age of death of most of the population in those days.

        It seems a lot of ‘modern’ diseases are due to us living longer. Perhaps the NHS, BMA et al are looking at ways to change this.

        DP

  85. Dmitry says:

    I want to see Frank back to his keyboard! Frank, you are important to us, and my doctor friends have plenty of ideas to put you back to life, a cigarette included.

  86. Александра Собина says:

    I do miss Frank too.

  87. Александра Собина says:

    Simon Clark has a survey.

    Ahead of the forthcoming ban on menthol cigarettes, Forest is conducting a short survey on the subject.

    Most of the questions can be answered by all smokers. A handful are targeted exclusively at smokers of menthol cigarettes.

    A link to the survey was posted on the Friends of Forest Facebook page yesterday. That led to almost 100 responses.

    This morning the survey was sent via email to the Forest subscriber list and in the first two hours we received a further 200 completed forms.

    The total number is currently 328 367 403.

    Our target was 300 but now we have passed that we want more so if you haven’t done so already please complete and submit the survey today.

    It starts here and should take no more than three minutes of your time.

    Thank you!
    https://forest326571.typeform.com/to/xuwTXe

  88. Rose says:

    Great Britain is woefully behind.
    Perhaps Antismoking is so strong in this country that our scientists just can’t bring themselves to follow the signs.

    LSU Health Shreveport
    May 8, 2020

    “LSU Health Shreveport is now one of five sites in the world and the first in Louisiana involved in a clinical trial that assesses inhaled nitric oxide as a treatment for patients with mild to moderate cases of COVID-19.

    To date, there are no targeted therapeutic treatments for COVID-19 and there are no proven interventions to prevent progression of the disease.

    This clinical trial in particular will monitor patients with mild to moderate cases of COVID-19 to see how they respond to inhaled nitric oxide as a treatment. Preventing disease progression in spontaneously breathing patients with mild to moderate disease could help to reduce the number of severe cases and deaths, which in turn lessens demand on healthcare resources such a critical care physicians and nurses.”

    “The Nitric Oxide Gas Inhalation Therapy for Mild/Moderate COVID-19 Infection clinical trial was conceived and sponsored by the Department of Anesthesia and the Respiratory Care Services at the Massachusetts General Hospital, which serves as the coordinating center for this international multicenter trial. In addition to LSU Health Shreveport, other collaborators are the University of Alabama at Birmingham, and academic medical centers in Austria and Sweden.”
    https://eu.shreveporttimes.com/story/news/local/2020/05/08/lsushs-becomes-site-additional-nitric-oxide-clincial-trial-covid-19-treatment/3095255001/

  89. Ruby says:

    Frank:
    I don’t know if anyone else has suggested this because after reading your post, I rushed to post this. Please get checked by a competent doctor. While you wait for the appointment date, get an oxymeter (to monitor your blood oxygen). And, look into taking Methylene Blue — it is used to cure methemoglobinamia, and also relieves breathing difficulties (it improves oxygen carrying capacity and utilization).
    I hope this helps. Be well.

  90. Александра Собина says:

    Thank you, Rose. I thought I will never see something like this. Our antis will better die and let to die others, than let it out in public.

  91. slugbop007 says:

    I just read an article in the Los Angeles Times today that said that inmates in several prisons had contracted the COVID19 virus. I am very curious to know how that happened. It does not make sense to me. Any ideas?

    slugbop007

  92. Joe L. says:

    The evidence keeps mounting, but the majority of the mainstream media continues to ignore it, especially here in the US. This article is quite lengthy; I only quoted about half of it below, but I have also archived the page for posterity.

    MORE evidence emerges that smokers are protected from coronavirus: Italian study finds them FIVE TIMES less likely to end up in hospital (but almost twice as likely to die if they do)

    Researchers have uncovered more evidence that smokers could be protected from the deadly coronavirus.

    Fewer than five per cent of 441 COVID-19 patients who needed to be admitted to an Italian hospital were smokers.

    The scientists described it as a ‘very low’ number, given that a quarter of the general population are known to be hooked on cigarettes.

    It suggests smokers are less likely to catch the disease – a theory that has emerged over the past few weeks from several global studies.

    But once smokers are in hospital, they may be more likely to see their disease rapidly progress and lead to death, according to some evidence.

    The new study found half of infected smokers died – compared to 35 per cent of the rest of the patients.

    Experts are struggling to knock down mounting evidence that suggests an apparent protective effect from cigarettes, which has been described as ‘weird’.

    Two weeks ago a review of the literature by University College London also found a ‘lower than expected’ rate of smokers among COVID-19 patients.

    Of the 28 studies analysed, one from the UK revealed only five per cent of patients were smokers – a third of the national rate of 14.4 per cent.

    But health officials in both the UK and US urge people to stop smoking to protect themselves from the virus as a matter of precaution.

    The Italian study led by Dr Nicola Gaibazzi looked at patients admitted to hospital in Parma, Northern Italy.

    It means the findings can only be applied to those with symptoms severe enough to seek medical attention – thousands of patients escape suffering any symptoms.

    Information about smoking was taken from medical records, and efforts were made to directly contact the patients or their relatives for confirmation.

    Previous research on the topic has been full of holes because researchers admit data had been missing.

    But in this study, a total of 423 out of 441 patients or their relatives were spoken to on the phone, which strengthens the data.

    Overall, just 21 patients (4.8 per cent) were active smokers, which is disproportionate compared with the 24 per cent in the population, according to the team.

    Ten per cent (44 people) had been a former smoker, but there is a lack of clear data to say how many Italians have completely kicked the habit.

    Of the Italian cohort, which had an average age of 71, around 35 per cent died. Men and patients with heart disease were at most risk.

    Non-smokers made up 85 per cent of victims, smokers 6 per cent and ex-smokers 9 per cent – which was not significantly different to the total cohort.

    However, active smokers had a 50/50 chance of survival once hospitalised – 47 per cent of those admitted died. In comparison, just over a third of non-smokers died.

    The underlying mechanisms that potentially protect smokers is not clear yet.

    But a theory flouted by scientists is that nicotine reduces ACE-2 receptors, which are proteins in the body the virus binds to in order to infect cells.

    Dr Gaibazzi has his own theory – he speculated exposure to cigarette smoke and its chemicals reduces the body’s immune system over time, measured by lower inflammatory markers.

    Therefore, when smokers are infected with a virus like SARS-CoV-2, their immune system is more ‘tolerant’ and does not overreact.

    On the other hand, non-smokers may be more prone to having a sudden and deadly release of inflammatory markers when they are infected with the virus, known as a ‘cytokine storm’.

    Doctors have previously said that it’s often the body’s response to the virus, rather than the virus itself, that plays a major role in how sick a person gets.

    Dr Gaibazzi and authors wrote: ‘Patients admitted with COVID-19 to an Italian hospital heavily involved in the recent outbreak showed a disproportionately low prevalence of active smokers compared with the general population.

    ‘The current study is useful since it suggests that smokers may carry some type of protective mechanism from symptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infection.’

    The study was published on the pre-print site MedRxiv and therefore hasn’t been subject to scrutiny by other scientists.

    Typically, smokers are at a heightened risk of infection because the tiny hairs inside the airways and lungs, which help move pathogens and mucus away, are often damaged by the toxic chemicals in cigarette smoke.

    In theory, this would put smokers at a disadvantage if they catch coronavirus, considering the disease leaves patients unable to get enough oxygen into the bloodstream due to lung inflammation.

    But data from across the world is showing otherwise – that smokers are protected from infection in some way.

    A review of scientific studies by University College London academics also found the proportions of smokers among hospital patients were ‘lower than expected’.

    Their paper was titled, ‘The association of smoking status with SARS-CoV-2 infection, hospitalisation and mortality from COVID-19: A living rapid evidence review’ and was published on the study-sharing website Qeios in April.

    David Simons and colleagues looked at 28 studies involving more than 23,000 people.

    Twenty-two of the studies were conducted in China, three in the US, one in South Korea, one in France and one was an international study using mostly UK data.

    The study from the US suggested that smokers appear to be less likely to test positive for SARS-CoV-2 compared with never smokers.

    Rather than this reflecting likelihood of catching the virus in the first place, it is more likely to point to someone’s risk of becoming so ill they have to go to hospital. Most of the countries involved in the studies did almost all of their testing in hospitals.

    But the researchers noted that smokers were more likely to be tested, possibly because their symptoms, like a cough, are more obvious due to their habit.

    Two high quality studies provided zero evidence that the 657 current or former smokers with the virus were at a higher risk of ending up in hospital.

    But when smokers do get diagnosed with the virus, however, they appear to be more likely to get so sick that they need ventilation.

    That’s according to two other studies, involving 1,370 people hospitalised people. Smokers were 43 per cent more likely to see their disease progress to become severe than those who had never smoked.

    Three studies reported death rates from COVID-19 but there ‘did not appear to be a notable difference’ between smokers and non-smokers.

    However, the studies ‘did not explicitly state never smoking status’, the authors said. They implied that patients who died may have smoked in the past, but this was not clearly recorded by a doctor.

    The authors concluded there is a lack of evidence that meets a high standard to definitely say whether or not smokers are at higher risk of catching the coronavirus, or having poor outcomes.

    Researchers admit that hospitals are probably not recording patients’ smoking status properly, potentially because they are too busy, patients are too sick to answer, or because people lie in their answers.

    ‘Notwithstanding these uncertainties, compared with national prevalence estimates, recorded current and former smoking rates in the included studies were generally lower than expected,’ the study authors wrote.

    Linda Bauld, a professor of public health at the University of Edinburgh, has admitted ‘there’s something weird going on with smoking and coronavirus’.

    She told Good Morning Britain on April 28: ‘We know for decades that smoking is linked to a higher risk of developing respiratory conditions and also people who smoke have poorer outcomes.

    ‘And we’ve still got around seven million smokers in the UK, [the] leading preventable cause of death.

    ‘However, my colleagues at UCL… what they’ve found is there are surprisingly few smokers in those studies who’ve developed coronavirus.

    ‘In one French study, four times as many non-smokers got the virus and developed COVID-19 compared to smokers.

    ‘There is a potential biological explanation for this.’

    Professor Bauld suggested that the way the virus enters the body may be blocked by effects of nicotine – the addictive compound found in tobacco – a popularised theory among scientists.

    • Rose says:

      “There is a potential biological explanation for this.’

      There is, nitric oxide apparently stops the Sars virus replicating and carbon monoxide seems to stop the cytokine storm from starting, while they can still smoke.
      Both are gases used medicinally so they shouldn’t be hard to replace, the doctors just need to know about them.

      Nitric Oxide Inhibits the Replication Cycle of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus
      2005
      https://jvi.asm.org/content/79/3/1966

      Carbon monoxide inhibits IL-17-induced IL-6 production through the MAPK pathway in human pulmonary epithelial cells.
      2005
      “Herein, we examine the production of cytokine IL-6 induced by IL-17 and the effect of CO on IL-17-induced IL-6 production in human pulmonary epithelial cell A549. We first show that IL-17 can induce A549 cells to release IL-6 and that CO can markedly inhibit IL-17-induced IL-6 production.”
      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16003000

  93. Rose says:

    I don’t know who this is, but it’s made the National Post.

    Colby Cosh: Where there’s smoke — the cigarettes-and-COVID story is growing harder to ignore

    “For smokers to do better in ANY health measure taken from ANY sample in ANY situation is astonishing. But now we have two studies showing that smokers do better with COVID”
    https://nationalpost.com/opinion/colby-cosh-where-theres-smoke-the-cigarettes-and-covid-story-is-growing-harder-to-ignore?fbclid=IwAR3UKtkwIPsxG3hEMqNmkS7Ndg5I8-17vRyv5dFkV-ytJS1Q81ZJFJXc63E

  94. slugbop007 says:

    To Joe L. and others:

    But once smokers are in hospital, they may be more likely to see their disease rapidly progress and lead to death, according to some evidence.

    The new study found half of infected smokers died – compared to 35 per cent of the rest of the patients.

    Perhaps it’s because they were not allowed to smoke in the hospital and whatever was protecting them was no longer active.. The shock to their builtup immune system was too much. Or, perhaps, some medication or treatment that was administered had a negative impact on their condition?

    slugbop007

    • Joe L. says:

      Perhaps it’s because they were not allowed to smoke in the hospital and whatever was protecting them was no longer active.

      This is a very plausible explanation as to why smokers–who are ~5 times less likely to be hospitalized from COVID-19–are ~1.4 times more likely to die once hospitalized. This would lend itself to the hypothesis that smoking helps prevent cytokine storms from occurring. Once in the hospital and prevented from smoking, the preventive effects from tobacco smoke fade, and the immune systems of smokers go into overdrive, causing a sudden and powerful cytokine storm.

      • Rose says:

        I think that is probably the right interpretation and even though they can’t smoke, that is no reason to deprive them or anyone else of treatment with carbon monoxide or nitric oxide because these medical gases are likely already on the premises, just used for other things.

  95. slugbop007 says:

    I just read the National Post article and the comments that followed it were mostly sick jokes and derogatory anti-smoker.

    slugbop007

  96. slugbop007 says:

    This is Part Two of a UKCOLUMN article on COVID–19: The Big Pharma players behind UK Government lockdown

    https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/covid%E2%80%9319-big-pharma-players-behind-uk-government-lockdown

    “To achieve world government, it is necessary to remove from the minds of men their individualism, loyalty to family tradition, national patriotism, and religious dogmas.” — Dr George Brock Chisholm, who served as the first Director-General of the World Health Organisation (WHO) from 1948 to 1953

    They have been working on this project for almost seventy years. Time for a Revolt.

    slugbop007

  97. Doug says:

    To Joe L. “Once in the hospital and prevented from smoking, the preventive effects from tobacco smoke fade, and the immune systems of smokers go into overdrive, causing a sudden and powerful cytokine storm.” Brilliant – you are correct, sir. Antis will always put smokers at a disadvantage in any scenario. And this has to change.

  98. Rose says:

    Oh dear.

    Beyond Smoking Cessation: Investigating Medicinal Nicotine to Prevent and Treat COVID-19
    8 May 2020

    “Distinguishing medicinal nicotine treatment from cigarette smoking for the prevention and treatment of COVID-19 is critical: simply stated, smoking has no therapeutic role.”
    https://academic.oup.com/ntr/advance-article/doi/10.1093/ntr/ntaa077/5834599#.XrmSmISqGyw.twitter

    There is so much wrong with that archaic statement, I don’t know where to start.

  99. Rose says:

    Perhaps the best answer to that last article is this one.

    Bellerophon Therapeutics Announces FDA Clears Initiation of Phase 3 Study for INOpulse® Inhaled Nitric Oxide Therapy to Treat COVID-19
    May 11 2020

    “Bellerophon Therapeutics, Inc. (Nasdaq: BLPH) (“Bellerophon” or the “Company”), a clinical-stage biotherapeutics company focused on developing treatments for cardiopulmonary and infectious lung diseases, today announced that the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) accepted its Investigational New Drug (IND) application, allowing the Company to initiate a Phase 3 study of INOpulse® inhaled nitric oxide (iNO) therapy in up to 500 patients infected with COVID-19.

    The IND acceptance follows agreement by the FDA earlier this year to allow investigational treatment with INOpulse for COVID-19 patients under emergency expanded access. To date, over 50 patients with COVID-19 have received treatment with INOpulse under the care and supervision of their physicians.

    “The acceptance of our Phase 3 study for the treatment of patients infected with COVID-19 represents a major advancement in our clinical development program and enables us to gather the required clinical data for potential regulatory approval of INOpulse for patients with COVID-19,” said Fabian Tenenbaum, Chief Executive Officer at Bellerophon Therapeutics. “Under the emergency expanded access program, we have been encouraged by the improvements in patients with COVID-19 treated with INOpulse, reinforcing the potential for our propriety therapy to improve oxygenation in patients and halt the progression of the virus. We look forward to working with institutions across the United States to enroll patients into this important clinical trial and accelerate access to patients in need.”
    http://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2020/05/11/2031087/0/en/Bellerophon-Therapeutics-Announces-FDA-Clears-Initiation-of-Phase-3-Study-for-INOpulse-Inhaled-Nitric-Oxide-Therapy-to-Treat-COVID-19.html

  100. slugbop007 says:

    To Rose on Medicinal Nicotine:

    ‘the biological plausibility of medicinal nicotine to lower infection and mitigate disease severity, and the feasibility of using medicinal nicotine for individuals who do not smoke, medicinal nicotine should be rapidly examined for a role in the prevention and treatment of COVID-19.’

    I no longer trust any university studies because the Global Health Network has taken over most of the health departments. When they, Oxford University, say medicinal I get the feeling that they don’t mean something like a dram of Whisky or a cup of herbal tea, they mean nicotine patches and other pharmaceutical products. Including those with menthol. Which would be par for the course. To my way of thinking, having a puff of tobacco should be considered as medicinally viable as that dram of a Whisky or whatever else you fancy. Besides that,  the Gates Foundation funds all kinds of research for British universities and the three researchers on this project might very well depend on those funds.

    slugbop007

  101. slugbop007 says:

    In the case of smokers being denied their right to smoke in a hospital while being treated for COVID19, if it could be proven that this sudden privation unduly precipitated their demise then I think a class action lawsuit for medical malpractice would be in order.

    slugbop007

  102. Doug says:

    To Slugbop007: For the lawsuit, this should also be considered: The deaths in Old Age homes that could have been prevented had they NOT been abused and forced to “go smoke-free”. I also wish Frank Davis a speedy recovery, and when freed from the clutches of the Hospital, will enjoy a smoke, first thing.

  103. Clicky says:

  104. Emily says:

    Great news- I hear Frank is heading home today! Let’s hope he feels well enough to give an update himself soon!

  105. slugbop007 says:

    To Joe L.

    I subscribe to this website, ITPRO. Are you familiar with it?

    slugbop007

  106. slugbop007 says:

    To Rose and company:

    I just started reading this article on the Sun’s positive effects on health. Here is an extract of one paragraph linking the Sun and Nitric Oxide:

    “Making people phobic about being outdoors in the sun is just so counter to our evolutionary basis — it just doesn’t make sense,” says James O’Keefe, MD, a cardiologist at Saint Luke’s Mid America Heart Institute in Kansas City who has studied the interactions between sunlight and human health. He says human beings evolved to live outdoors — “We’re not moles,” he says — and that our absence of hair or fur suggests that our skin is meant to encounter some direct sun exposure. “I think there are a lot of potential mechanisms by which sunlight could benefit health.”

    Asked for specifics, O’Keefe says that sun-exposed skin releases large amounts of nitric oxide into the bloodstream. “Nitric oxide keeps vessels soft and supple, and it gives them a Teflon-like surface so that platelets don’t stick,” he says. “The vessels naturally produce a lot of nitric oxide when you’re healthy, and especially when you’re young.” He points out that deaths due to cardiovascular disease — the most common cause of death in the United States — tend to peak in winter both in the United States and in Europe, and that the absence of sun and its attendant nitric oxide boost may be a contributing factor.

    Here is the link to the full article:

    https://elemental.medium.com/how-sunlight-the-immune-system-and-covid-19-interact-cd3220e9abf5

    slugbop007

  107. sok says:

    Hi Frank, hope you will start blogging again soon, just been reading all the comments so now I know why you have been absent. Kind regards, Pete Soakel

  108. prog says:

    Hi Frank

    Not commented here for quite a while but all the very best for a full and speedy recovery.

  109. smokingscot says:

    Great news, close to two weeks of being inspected, poked and prodded, plus the racket from those drip feed warnings, the guy must be fair knackered.

    Absolutely no junk food tonight Franklin. And fingers crossed they’ve not converted you to a non smoker!

  110. RdM says:

    Dyspnea , then … search on it.

    Perhaps it was a slight strain opening that window, a final straw for the heart at the time?

    https://www.healthline.com/health/dyspnea
    seems harmless enough.
    But I note hideous profiteering fearmongering ads associated with
    https://www.webmd.com/lung/shortness-breath-dyspnea#1

    Like “Vaping was designed to be addictive” and “Vaping injury help”
    by PersonalInjuryLawyer

    Followed at the end even more hideously, by:

    Provided by PersonalInjuryLawyer

    Did Juul® get you hospitalized or addicted?

    If you or your child suffered addiction, injury, or death from vaping, you may be entitled to compensation.

    Answer these short questions to get a FREE evaluation.
    1.
    Do you or a loved one “vape” with e-cigarettes by Juul® or another company?

    Sorry to have devolved in to politics and news media, but there you go!

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