Borisov’s Carbon Monoxide Cloud

Back in March I was wondering if Coronavirus Came From Outer Space?

Here’s a new variation: Comet C/2019 Q4 (Borisov) which reached perihelion on 8 December 2019.

What was interesting about Borisov?

Colder than anything known to man: Interstellar comet Borizov came to the Solar System in a cloud of poisonous carbon monoxide gas that formed in an area of space where temperatures drop to -420F.

It had up to 26 times as much CO than that of the average solar system comet.

the CO readings came as a surprise to astronomers.

Co-author Dr Stefanie Millam, said it must have formed from material ‘very rich in CO ice’ which is only present at the lowest temperatures found in space.

What are the symptoms of CO poisoning?

Symptoms of carbon monoxide poisoning
The symptoms of carbon monoxide poisoning are not always obvious, particularly during low-level exposure.

A tension-type headache is the most common symptom of mild carbon monoxide poisoning.

Other symptoms include:

dizziness
feeling and being sick
tiredness and confusion
stomach pain
shortness of breath and difficulty breathing
The symptoms of exposure to low levels of carbon monoxide can be similar to those of food poisoning and flu.  (my added emphases)

What if Covid-19 isn’t a virus at all? What if it’s actually Carbon Monoxide (CO) poisoning in the aftermeth of the Earth passing through a very dense CO cloud accompanying Comet Borisov?

It is commonly measured in parts per million (ppm) and is usually present in the atmosphere at approximately 300 to 500 parts per million. After Borisov Concentrations of CO in the atmosphere may have risen to very high levels in some places (e.g. Wuhan, China, which probably already had high CO levels), but be much lower elsewhere.

Cometary CO would have arrived near-simultaneously all over the world, following the orbit of Borisov. This would have  meant highest concentrations in Northern hemisphere, and apparent high “infection rate” of “virus”. Local “Covid-19” outbreaks may be caused by CO-rich gas clouds slowly travelling round the world (Iran, ->Italy, -> Spain).

Toxic Substances Portal:

When carbon monoxide is released to the environment, it enters the air and remains in the atmosphere for an average of about 2 months. Eventually, carbon monoxide reacts with other compounds in the atmosphere and is converted to carbon dioxide.

Carbon Dioxide tends to stay in the air:

Carbon monoxide has a molecular weight which is slightly lighter than air; but despite that fact, it doesn’t just rise to the ceiling. The difference in density between air and CO is minimal and because of this difference, it causes the gas to have a neutral effect in any room. Unlike smoke which rises, CO diffuses itself around the room and mixes with the air. We are not meant to breath CO and it can quickly affect our health. Since it mixes so well with the air, carbon monoxide is extremely dangerous

Are atmospheric CO levels routinely measured?

Another hypothesis?

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30 Responses to Borisov’s Carbon Monoxide Cloud

  1. Elizabeth says:

    Well, that’s an interesting theory. Thank you Frank.

  2. Александра Собина says:

    It looks like Covid does not like Baltic countries, numbers are very low. I picked also Belarus, what is not a Baltic country, because there was nothing done and pandemia was not announced. There are a good lot of smokers in this countries as far as I know. What else could explain such difference.

    In Belarus restrictions are not placed. Borders are open.
    Confirmed
    6,723
    Recovered
    577
    Deaths
    55

    Latvia as EU country has restrictions, but milder than UK.
    Total infections 748
    Fatalities 9
    Recovered 133
    606 are sick now
    serious and critical cases 3

    Еstonia
    1535 infected
    128 patients are in hospitals.
    165 recovered.
    40 people died

    Lithuаnia
    Total infections 1350
    Deaths 38
    Recovered 298
    Now sick 1014
    critical cases 17

    • smokingscot says:

      Couldn’t get up to date smoking rates on all of them, however Belarus does still have a lot of people who smoke and appear to take little notice of smoking bans, irrespective of what the law states.

      Their President may be all the usual tin pot dictator stuff, however his advice to the people of Belarus is to go sauna, drink vodka – and bingo, you’re immune!

      https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/31/coronavirus-belarus-urges-citizens-to-drink-vodka-visit-saunas.html

      Unfortunately the twit forgot the most important; have a ciggie as well! That said, I do believe the average citizen does understand the hidden message. And you can put money on their knowing of it’s protective qualities. Furthermore this business of living a long, long life doesn’t seem at all appealing given what people are learning about the reality of what’s been going on quietly unseen in houses and care homes. Some of these pathetic souls are being kept alive for no reason other than their pension.

      • Александра Собина says:

        It is not bingo, it is “tractor” what means do your gardening/farming. :))
        There are a very few health zealots, most of people prefer to live their lives in full and enjoy themselves, and yes, they do not take a notice how they should behave themselves. In Baltic countries it is thanks to Russians, Baltic people themselves are quit sheepy.

    • beobrigitte says:

      Check all the above countries here:
      https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

      click on the individual countries and find out where testing issues/reporting issues etc. are.

      In short, the above countries are at the begin of the epidemic. How strict the social isolation are there I do not know.
      With respect to smoking it would be worth keeping an eye on the severity of the infections. A low viral load tends to lead to mild symptoms; if smoking does have anti-viral properties it certainly would influence the clinical picture positively.

      Frank, CO does not produce an immune response and an antibody. That some illnesses show very similar/almost the same symptoms does not indicate a single and a same cause.

      • beobrigitte says:

        I forgot to also mention that the CO causes a “left shift” of the oxygen attached to the iron inside erythrocytes and therefore the oxygen cannot be released . This CO bond is ca. 200 time stronger than the oxygen bond and a simple blood test gives the %-age (or ppm) of bound CO. I have not come across reports of CO poisoning in COVID patients.

        • Rose says:

          Surely if you are a smoker the vasodilating effect of the nitric oxide would compensate.

          I don’t like to hear of them planning to stick nicotine patches on covid patients, nicotine is a vasoconstrictor, the leaves were used to bind and heal battle wounds.
          I know from experience how quickly a fresh green leaf stops bleeding.

          French researchers to test nicotine patches on coronavirus patients
          https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/22/french-study-suggests-smokers-at-lower-risk-of-getting-coronavirus

          I’m sure that nicotine is the only thing they’ve ever heard of.

        • beobrigitte says:

          Rose, correct.
          https://www.hematology.org/covid-19/covid-19-and-coagulopathy
          https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/jth.14817

          DIC is one of the fatal complications that can arise. Again, we will have to wait until we have the final numbers to assess how much this is a factor of mortality.
          I don’t fully understand the rationale of using nicotine patches on COVID patients as vasoconstriction is only beneficial in the patients exhibiting severe hypotension due to multiple organ failure and in these cases may add to problems and therefore ?support the anti-smoker cause.

          Rather than wasting time and energy with conspiracy theories that cause unnecessary division, lack of confidence and aggression how about demanding TOTAL TRANSPARENCY in future?

        • Rose says:

          Because nicotine follows the ideology and they don’t look any further.

          “Nicotine is produced in the roots of the tobacco plant by the linking of compounds derived from nicotinic acid and putrescine”
          https://www.xxiicentury.com/technology/our-tobacco-technology

          Which is why before you can do anything with it it has to be cured and aged, you have to take the green leaf and take it through the stages an autumn leaf goes through, but quicker. There is a stage where you can smell ammonia evaporating and then a smell like a rotting fish, as the leaf slowly ages and dries. I have done all this in a large heated propagator in the back bedroom, hanging them daily in a sunny window to air. So you can imagine ….
          It takes three years of aging before you get that lovely smell and then its cut rolled and burned.
          Not the same thing as a nicotine patch at all.

          I am a great believer in not opening your mouth about things you know nothing about, so I’ve taught myself about the tobacco plant from a seed to a dried leaf.

  3. Joe L. says:

    Very interesting hypothesis, Frank! This would finally provide an explanation as to why most of our governments have dictated that we “stay home” as much as possible, and in many localities, aren’t even allowing people to take part in primarily solitary outdoor activities, such as fishing. Maybe there are “pockets” of pure CO in the atmosphere at the moment, and if you happen to get unlucky enough to have one envelop you, you will fall ill with symptoms which are currently being attributed to “COVID-19.”

    Bonus fun: We are told that COVID-19 is an abbreviation of “Coronavirus Disease 2019“, but maybe the “CO” is actually representative of “Comet, or simply the molecular formula for carbon monoxide, “CO”. I can’t come up with any possibilities for the “VI” portion off the top of my head. “D” could still stand for “Disease”, and the “19” could serve the same purpose, as Borisov’s full name also contains 2019 (“Comet C/2019 Q4”).

  4. smokingscot says:

    They’ve found a bunch of shipwrecks between Lebanon & Cyprus and amongst the artifacts were large numbers of “illegal” tobacco pipes. Now that piqued my interest, as I’m sure you can imagine. Article then goes on to say:

    “Ottoman clay tobacco pipes were also found in the hold of the wooden behemoth which experts say are the oldest ever found at land or sea.

    Archaeologists have linked the tobacco pipes with the porcelain cups as part of the coffee culture craze which had taken hold of the Ottoman empire.

    “Through tobacco smoking and coffee drinking in Ottoman cafes, the idea of recreation and polite society hallmarks of modern culture came to life,” Kingsley added.”

    Modern culture, polite society, recreation. Worth repeating.

    https://cyprus-mail.com/2020/04/21/wrecks-found-between-cyprus-and-lebanon-equivalent-to-finding-new-planet/

    (And, in my opinion, one reason why relatively humdrum viruses never got a grip when smoking was widespread.)

  5. Rose says:

    How did we get through the Industrial Revolution with all that CO around?

  6. Frank Davis says:

    It is a fun hypothesis. But how would it fit with smokers being protected? Smokers would now have to have protection against high levels of CO rather than against Covid-19.

    The answer may be that long term, heavy smokers are used to living with high levels of CO in their lungs, and so when Borisov’s CO raised atmospheric CO concentrations, smokers weren’t affected, but non-smokers were.

    In many ways smokers are people who have adapted to survive in smoky environments, and have better lungs than most people, much as people who livee at high altitudes have also adapted, presumably by increasing lung capacity.

    So non-smokers are people with relatively weak lungs, and they succumbed quickly when CO levels in the atmosphere rose. Ex-smokers would also have been in danger, because they would gradually have been losing their adaptation.

    The process parallels the effect of exercise. When people exercise, and perform more physical work, their bodies adapt by adding more muscle, and they become stronger people. Smokers also adapt, and their lungs get stronger the more they smoke.

    • Frank Davis says:

      Another question. If Covid-19 isn’t a virus, then why are all these people testing positive for the new coronavirus? Well, they’d also test positive for lots of other viruses. Maybe the new coronavirus is associated with some very mild symptoms of something (a slight sniffle), but the real damage is being done by Borisov’s CO.

      • Igrowmyown says:

        Frank,it could be both,they are not mutually exclusive. There are examples in mediaeval history of disaster striking after the appearance of a comet ( this is probably why they were regarded as portents of bad fortune when seen in the sky ) and they often preceded noxious air and new diseases appearing. If I get the time I will try and hunt some of them down. A fruitful area to explore is probably the waste land in Arthurian legend.

    • Rose says:

      You make your own carbon monoxide, the bit in the cigarette is just a little extra.

      Research to spotlight carbon monoxide benefits
      2007

      “Scientists at the University of York have won a grant of £110,000 to investigate potential uses of carbon monoxide in treating disease.

      Dr Jason Lynam and Dr Ian Fairlamb, of the University’s Department of Chemistry, have been awarded the funding by the Leverhulme Trust for a three-year study into the use of metal compounds for the controlled release of carbon monoxide into the bloodstream.

      Carbon monoxide is an anti-inflammatory, and they want to explore its potential in treating high blood pressure, heart disease and possibly cancer. The project builds on a study conducted by Roberto Motterlini (Northwick Park Hospital in London) and Professor Brian Mann (University of Sheffield), and preliminary studies conducted in York, supported by funds from the University and Engineering and Physical Sciences Research Council (EPSRC).
      Dr Fairlamb said: “You can use certain carbon monoxide molecules to elicit a whole range of biological effects. Carbon monoxide causes vasorelaxation and is produced naturally as a result of the breakdown of haemoglobin. This can be seen in the healing process of a bruise, where various colour changes indicate the degradation of haemoglobin and release of carbon monoxide. The slow release of carbon monoxide reduces blood pressure for someone who has angina, for instance.”
      https://web.archive.org/web/20080522093831/http://www.york.ac.uk/admin/presspr/pressreleases/carbonmonoxideresearch.htm

  7. Rose says:

    Today is Earth Day, Google informs me, and they are celebrating the bee.
    So this is a timely repost.

    Use of tobacco smoke against parasitic mite syndrome

    “The pathological condition that has appeared in Iraqi apiaries recently has caused large losses in honeybee colonies, dwindling populations and decreasing honey production. It is perhaps similar to the condition described by Dr Shimanuki as The Parasitic Mite Syndrome’. A trial has been carried out on two apiaries, one with 50 colonies and the other with 30 colonies using tobacco leaves burned in the smokers.

    EXPERIMENTAL TRIAL

    In Spring 1995 colonies showed some delay in their build up. A lot of crawling bees had been seen in front of the hives and on the ground. Hives in two apiaries were treated with tobacco leaves. 15-20 g of leaves were burned in the smoker with the material used for making smoke. It was used during routine examinations every week or as needed, in March, April and May. These colonies were shown to have greater populations and to yield more honey compared with two control hives kept near the apiary of 50 colonies. In the apiary with 30 colonies there were another 45 colonies which were not treated with tobacco smoke.

    ASSESSMENT

    In early August there was a check up and comparison between the colonies that had been treated with tobacco smoke and those which had not. There was a great difference in honeybee populations; those which had been treated being more populous. The bees were more active in foraging and collecting nectar.

    CONCLUSION

    Whatever the disease, I believe that tobacco smoke had beneficial effect on the colonies. We know that nicotine in tobacco smoke has some anaesthetic effect on insects in general, and it might have some lethal effect on mites and therefore some beneficial effect against the condition.

    We believe now that the immune system of the bees is in some way diminished. By using tobacco smoke we are either hitting the primary target, or we might be curing a secondary pathogen. In either case we are helping our bees to get better!”
    http://www.beesfordevelopment.org/info/info/disease/use-of-tobacco-smoke-agai.shtml

    • Frank Davis says:

      It’s another example of the lost science of fumigation, which was insecticidal, bactericidal, and fungicidal. The bees probably were affected by smoke, but not killed by it.

      • Rose says:

        Smoke is used to calm bees.

        “The fact that smoke calms bees has been known since ancient times; however, the scientific explanation was unknown until the 20th century and is still not fully understood. Smoke masks alarm pheromones[5] which include various chemicals, e.g., isopentyl acetate[6] that are released by guard bees or bees that are injured during a beekeeper’s inspection. The smoke creates an opportunity for the beekeeper to open the beehive and work while the colony’s defensive response is interrupted. In addition, smoke initiates a feeding response in anticipation of possible hive abandonment due to fire”
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bee_smoker

  8. Rose says:

    Cigarette smoke without the bits.

    “Viral replication is the formation of biological viruses during the infection process in the target host cells. Viruses must first get into the cell before viral replication can occur. Through the generation of abundant copies of its genome and packaging these copies, the virus continues infecting new hosts.”

    Nitric Oxide Inhibits the Replication Cycle of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus
    https://jvi.asm.org/content/79/3/1966

    “Interleukin-6 (IL-6) inhibitors may ameliorate severe damage to lung tissue caused by cytokine release in patients with serious COVID-19 infections. Several studies have indicated a “cytokine storm” with release of IL-6, IL-1, IL-12, and IL-18,

    Carbon monoxide inhibits IL-17-induced IL-6 production through the MAPK pathway in human pulmonary epithelial cells.
    2005

    “Herein, we examine the production of cytokine IL-6 induced by IL-17 and the effect of CO on IL-17-induced IL-6 production in human pulmonary epithelial cell A549. We first show that IL-17 can induce A549 cells to release IL-6 and that CO can markedly inhibit IL-17-induced IL-6 production.”
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16003000

  9. Dr Evil says:

    A high of 500ppm would mean it was higher than CO2 at 400ppm. When I was at school doing my O levels in 1969 my chemistry text book said CO2 was 380ppm. Hasn’t changed much and is still a trace gas. CO doesn’t scar the lungs but binds strongly to haemoglobin to give bright red methaemoglobin which will not carry oxygen. CO does not mutate and has no genome. I think you are outvoted on this one. Borisov most probably originates from the very cold comet forming region of a red dwarf star.

  10. slugbop007 says:

    I just found this April 21, 2020 tidbit here:

    https://earthsky.org/space/comet-21-borisov-comets-red-dwarf-stars-hubble-space-telescope:

    Carbon monoxide ice is more volatile than water ice, so it doesn’t take much heat to release it from the nucleus of a comet. In our solar system, this ice can start sublimating into space at 11 billion miles – twice the distance of Pluto – from the sun. Water ice, however, will only start doing this when a comet is about 200 million miles from the sun. That’s about the distance of the inner edge of the main asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter.  

    That’s 55 times the distance from our Sun. What was its closest point when it passed by the Earth?

    slugbop007 

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