Led by “The Science”

Something Joe L wrote a few days ago:

This “virus” has been in the media now for over three months, and we still don’t know anything about it. It seems like every time new information is released, it contradicts previously released information. We have no idea what to believe about this, and very little data with which to even draw our own conclusions. Honestly, the most consistent piece of information that I have been able to glean from actual studies is that tobacco smokers are far less likely to require hospitalization after contracting COVID-19.

The CFR varies widely from country to country depending on how strictly they classify deaths <i>from</i> the virus vs. deaths <i>with</i> the virus, and even something as basic as the list of common symptoms is still changing almost daily. We are under house arrest all across the world over something that nobody seems to understand at all, even after all this time. This is absolute insanity.

If it’s a new virus then I don’t see how they can possibly know anything about it. They must be on the same learning curve as everyone else. The reason you don’t know anything is because they don’t know anything. I think they’re just making a lot of assumptions about it from their experience with previous epidemics.

I still think that, when the dust settles, we’re likely to find that this epidemic won’t really be much worse than a standard flu epidemic. We don’t lock down for flu epidemics.

From 31 Jan, before the new coronavirus took over:

The current 2019-2020 flu season is on track to be one of the worst in a decade. According to the CDC, between 19-26 million people have caught the flu since October and between 10,000-25,000 people have died. But as bad as the seasonal flu is this year, it pales in comparison to some of the biggest flu pandemics in history.

Last I heard, about 40,000 people had died in the USA from Covid-19. That’s just twice the numbers they already thought had died from regular flu.

Led By “The Science” Towards A Medical Despotism?

Imagine crashing an economy and imposing what is effectively a police state, with all the concomitant evils that will lead to, in order to deal with an illness with a case-fatality rate not significantly greater than a bad flu season. Is that rational? Is that proportional? Is that being led by the science?

Bearing in mind that I’ve just said that if this is a new virus then for sure they don’t know much about it, and “The Science” is just a bunch of half-educated guesses.

If the end result is an economic depression worse than the 1930s, the medical despots in the WHO and elsewhere are going to find that they’ve got no friends anywhere. People will wonder: “Why did we listen to these people? Why did we place so much trust in The Science, when it turned out not to be science at all? Didn’t anybody stop to ask a few questions?”

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15 Responses to Led by “The Science”

  1. slugbop007 says:

    You had me shedding tears, Mr. Davis. This has to be one of the biggest frauds ever.

    I took an English Literature Post-Modernism class at Concordia University in 1999 and our professor asked us why society was becoming more and more risk averse and safety conscious. I’m sure that he didn’t think that it would push us so far that the streets of Montreal would add an extra 4.5 meter wide corridor along most of its main streets so we can better maintain (or should that be practice?) our ‘social distancing’.

    I was walking home yesterday and I saw a woman approaching me in the opposite direction. She veered off to the right and I thought that she had gone in to one of the houses along the way. Wrong, she was waiting on the pathway to someone’s house until I passed by. At first I was really ticked off. Insulted. She must watch the news every day, believes everything told to her and takes it very seriously. How many more people feel like her now and are reacting in a similar fashion? I don’t know and I’m afraid to find out. But I probably will in the not too distant future. And that’s how it’s done. Fear begets Fear begets more Fear. Then paranoia. Then unconsciouis antipathy, mistrust and anxiety towards one’s fellow humans, followed by overt confrontations and public denunciations. It’s pervasive and pernicious. Just like East Berlin during the Cold War. Brr!

    I was walking home yesterday and I saw a woman approaching me in the opposite direction. She veered off to the right and I thought that she had gone in to one of the houses along the way. Wrong, she was waiting on the pathway to someone’s house until I passed by. At first I was really ticked off. Insulted. She must watch the news every day, believes everything told to her and takes it very seriously. How many more people feel like her now and are reacting in a similar fashion? I don’t know and I’m afraid to find out. But I probably will in the not too distant future. And that’s how it’s done. Fear begets Fear begets more Fear. Then paranoia. Then unconsciouis antipathy, mistrust and anxiety towards one’s fellow humans, followed by overt confrontations and public denunciations. It’s pervasive and pernicious. Just like East Berlin during the Cold War. Brr!

    Why does the human obsession for good health often end up producing a Fascist/Authoritarian society?

    slugbop007

    • Joe L. says:

      Fear begets Fear begets more Fear. Then paranoia. Then unconsciouis antipathy, mistrust and anxiety towards one’s fellow humans, followed by overt confrontations and public denunciations. It’s pervasive and pernicious. Just like East Berlin during the Cold War. Brr!

      Why does the human obsession for good health often end up producing a Fascist/Authoritarian society?

      I believe it is because society as a whole is progressively becoming less spiritual. I am by no means a religious person. I was raised Catholic, realized Catholicism was ridiculous and turned 180° into an atheist as a rebellious teenager, but as I’ve grown older, I’ve become agnostic. I feel a spiritual connection to others, something not tied to any religion, but “something” nonetheless. And I think a bit of it is fueled by the behavior of Antismokers and Healthists. They are exactly the same as all other hardcore religious people; they have an unquestioning faith in something another human being told them, even though there is no empirical evidence to support it. Whereas I have always had a scientific mindset; I question everything. I’ve never been one to simply believe something just because someone else said it’s so. I think it’s one of the greatest gifts we were all given, but many people ignore or take for granted: the ability to think for ourselves.

      With the rise of Scientism has come an inverse decline in spirituality. People have become increasingly atheist/hedonist/Satanist. They have become extremely selfish, and live only in the moment; they care only about the way they feel in the here and now, and they want to maximize the length of time they are “here.” They don’t want others being able to do things that they believe will shorten their time “here,” even if it means taking away the personal liberties of others to feel more secure. They feel no connection to you or to anyone, they are only concerned with themselves. I believe this selfish disconnection from other human beings produces a dog-eat-dog mindset and breeds a Fascist/Authoritarian society. These people blindly trust in “experts” and figures of authority and practically beg for more top-down control because they believe it is in their interest of self-preservation.

  2. slugbop007 says:

    Sorry for that duplication of the same comment.

    slugbop007

  3. nessimmersion says:

    Please have a look at the Prof below ( Ferguson and his merry band of catastrophists fo not have anything like the track record of Prof Ioannidis)

  4. slugbop007 says:

    I stumbled upon this youtube clip after reading about Loannidis ON COVID19:

    Krystal and Saagar: Michelle Obama, Laura Bush team up to fundraise for failed WHO 18,518 views •Apr 20, 2020

    Most of the comments were very hostile.

    slugbop007

  5. Joe L. says:

    OT: Extremely poor timing for a dictator Supreme Leader to be hospitalized for a major procedure:

    Kim Jong-un Reported to Have Undergone Heart Surgery as Coronavirus Strikes North Korea

    And of course, the article wouldn’t be complete without this obligatory line:

    Sources report that Kim’s health situation was exacerbated by obesity, stress and heavy smoking

  6. slugbop007 says:

    It should have been stress, insanity and narcissistic personality disorder.

    slugbop007

  7. Frank Davis says:

    Being “led by The Science” is essentially a matter of believing what you’re told.

    I too was raised as a Roman Catholic. I went to a Benedictine monastery school for 7 years. The result is that I’m a tiny bit a Benedictine monk. I had a long battle to escape the church in my late teens: I didn’t want anyone telling me what to think, what to believe. Once I had escaped, I ceased to be at all hostile to the church. I think that if the Sunday mass was still in Latin, I’d love to attend: It’s a 2000 year old connection to the past. It’s deep and rich and mysterious and rooted. The English mass is a bit shallow.

    I think one of the problems of our time is that we”ve lost our connection to the past, lost our place in history, lost the thread. When people don’t know who George Washington or George III were, they’ve lost their place in history. They no longer know who they are. And they very often have contempt for their forgotten forebears: they regard themselves as superior in every way.

    I sometimes look at a brick in an old brick wall and think: “That brick was laid one day in about 1580 AD, and it’s still here today, still supporting a roof. And there are many such bricks. And much of my world is still held together by the work of men who died a long time ago.” That also is an awareness of history, and of the deep interconnectedness of everything.

  8. John says:

    You are very right …. but we do know a bit more than we think. If you look at the Diamond Princess fantastic dataset we can make an age dependant fatality model that also matches other data (eg. Italian hospital data) Turns out that morality is about 0.6% for ALL infections. But we know 90% of people dying have serious co-morbidities, so once you factor that in this will drop the 0.6% down to a ‘lethality’ of about 0.1%. Which is the same as a bad seasonal flu.

  9. Александра Собина says:

    Tucker: Are coronavirus lockdowns working?

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