Coronavirus is a UK Patent Virus?

I’m in two minds over whether the Coronavirus epidemic in China is something serious, or really just another ‘flu epidemic. In a time when all health scares about everything are bogus, it’s most likely that this latest scare is bogus too, and it’ll be forgotten in a week or two.

But if it’s just a ‘flu epidemic, why has China locked down five or more large cities in the region where the Coronavirus outbreak started?  Road and rail and air travel out of Wuhan has been stopped. And that means that internal trade inside China in this region has also stopped. And supermarket shelves have been emptied. When will they be restocked?

One reason why the Chinese might be worried about this outbreak is that it might not be just another ‘flu epidemic, and it is that there’s a laboratory that studies dangerous pathogens in Wuhan. Are they worried that the new virus has come from there, and not from some street market as has been suggested?

Locking down entire huge cities – larger than London or New York – is something that hasn’t been done before, and nobody seems to know whether it’s possible. How must the citizens feel, locked in their cities with empty supermarkets on the day that the Chinese New Year starts? Not happy, I imagine.

Here in the UK there are now 14 suspected cases of Coronavirus, of which 6 have been cleared. How long does it take them to do the tests? A day? Two days? A week?

I get the feeling that the UK authorities are either not much bothered., or are playing it all down:

Public health bosses urge 2,000 recent arrivals from China to call NHS if they feel ill and GPs are told to shut suspected coronavirus victims in consultation rooms as 14 people are tested in UK

Isn’t that good to know, that Chinese visitors to the UK are being encouraged to phone the NHS if they feel a tad unwell?

ZeroHedge, the Guardian, and the Independent all started live stream reporting on the Coronavirus outbreak yesterday, but only the Guardian seems to have continued today.

Meanwhile in Wuhan, they’re building a 1000-bed hospital in double-quick time:

A new 1000-bed hospital is being built in Wuhan specifically to deal with the coronavirus outbreak and authorities plan to have it running by Monday, state media outlet Changjiang Daily reports.

Construction began on Thursday night with machinery, including 35 diggers and 10 bulldozers, arriving at the site.

If they’re doing that, then they must expect a lot more cases. And in fact, Wuhan hospitals are already overflowing, with new patients being turned away. So they’ll probably just be catching up with the backlog.

And what about this?

BILL AND MELINDA GATES FOUNDATION & OTHERS PREDICTED UP TO 65 MILLION DEATHS VIA CORONAVIRUS – IN SIMULATION RAN 3 MONTHS AGO!

The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation co-hosted a pandemic exercise in late 2019 that simulated a global coronavirus outbreak.

They also just happen to fund the group who owns the patent to the deadly virus and are working on a vaccine to solve the crisis.

On June 19, 2015, the UK government-funded Pirbright Institute filed an application for a patent for the live coronavirus, which was approved on Nov 20, 2018.

It’s a patent virus??? And it’s a UK outfit that owns the patent???

We’ll know in a week or two, I guess, whether this is something serious or not. Chances are still good that it’s not.

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14 Responses to Coronavirus is a UK Patent Virus?

  1. beobrigitte says:

    I’m in two minds over whether the Coronavirus epidemic in China is something serious, or really just another ‘flu epidemic. In a time when all health scares about everything are bogus, it’s most likely that this latest scare is bogus too, and it’ll be forgotten in a week or two.
    Or brushed under the carpet like the current Ebola epidemic.

    Here in the UK there are now 14 suspected cases of Coronavirus, of which 6 have been cleared. How long does it take them to do the tests? A day? Two days? A week?
    48 hours in a blood culture, roughly a day using RT-PCR, a couple of hours immunochemistry (antibody detection/quantitation)
    Considering the incubation period of 10 to 14 days (this is a new strain and therefore this may not apply!) and not everybody being tested we can safely assume the disease will run it’s course.

    Isn’t that good to know, that Chinese visitors to the UK are being encouraged to phone the NHS if they feel a tad unwell?
    They will have to deal with NHS Direct (pretty useless service) over the phone or be send to A&E, where they spend the next 4 hours in the overcrowded waiting room.

    I get the feeling that the UK authorities are either not much bothered, or are playing it all down
    I’m afraid it’s playing it down. We are not equipped to deal with new viruses; We’re still struggling with e.g.MRSA etc.

    BILL AND MELINDA GATES FOUNDATION & OTHERS PREDICTED UP TO 65 MILLION DEATHS VIA CORONAVIRUS – IN SIMULATION RAN 3 MONTHS AGO!

    The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation co-hosted a pandemic exercise in late 2019 that simulated a global coronavirus outbreak.
    Oh, great. That means they pumped even more cash in to “fight” the “Tobacco Epidemic” to divert from the REAL problem.

    They also just happen to fund the group who owns the patent to the deadly virus
    Here I need PROOF and the exact (?DNA) modification(s) to the virus.

    and are working on a vaccine to solve the crisis.
    So, nowhere near an effective one? Not surprised. It takes quite some time (developing + animal/clinical trials) before a vaccine can be officially made available to the public.

    We’ll know in a week or two, I guess, whether this is something serious or not. Chances are still good that it’s not.
    It will take much longer as there will be new cases intermittently due to incubation period.
    So far 9 people are tested in the UK, not sure if the suspected 3 cases in Edinburgh are confirmed.
    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/health/coronavirus-edinburgh-latest-news-china-virus-outbreak-three-people-are-tested-royal-infirmary-1374746

    Is there still someone (other than the paranoid anti-smokers) out there worrying about tobacco?

  2. Frank Davis says:

    A little light relief

    President Trump works as a Waiter at his own Hotel

  3. smokingscot says:

    Resources brought in to build the hospital. Impressive it is.

    https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=aj8Oo_1579879476

  4. smokingscot says:

    More on the hospital. Bringing in soil to raise the site above what’s a swamp type depression.snd one enthusiastic commentator.

    https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=sfkrT_1579867216

    Get this lot over, point them to the HS2 route and suggest they get it done by March 1st.

  5. beobrigitte says:

    There are now ca. 1300 suspected cases with 41 death globally. France now has 2 confirmed cases and all the suspected cases in the UK have tested negative.

    Finally someone somewhere did realize that the Chinese New Year is BIG and people do travel extensively to and from China.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51232163
    Officials are attempting to trace as many as 2,000 visitors who have flown in to the UK from the Chinese city of Wuhan, where the new strain of corona virus first broke out.

    Since the WHO appears to do little or nothing I checked it’s (by now somewhat confusingly spruced up) web site.
    https://www.who.int
    If you scroll down a little you find 3 pictured links; the first two are titled “Emergencies” and address Ebola and Corona. Ebola does not get much attention with a only brief paragraph to read, there is a little more about the Corona virus (largely playing it down) and a few links.

    The third one, however, is titled “Highlight” and addresses E-cigarettes: “E-cigarettes:How risky are they?”
    Clicking on READ provides this:
    Are e-cigarettes and other vaping products dangerous?
    There are many different types of e-cigarettes in use (also known as Electronic Nicotine Delivery Systems (ENDS), with varying amounts of nicotine and harmful emissions.
    ENDS emissions typically contain nicotine and other toxic substances that are harmful to both users and those exposed to the vapours secondhand. Some devices that claim to be nicotine-free have been found to contain nicotine.
    There is no doubt that that they are harmful to health and are not safe, but it is too early to provide a clear answer on the long-term impact of using them or being exposed to them.
    ENDS are particularly risky when used by adolescents. Nicotine is highly addictive and young people’s brains develop up to their mid-twenties. Exposure to nicotine can have long-lasting, damaging effects.
    Young people who use ENDS are also more likely to use conventional cigarettes, cigars or hookahs.
    ENDS increase the risk of heart disease and lung disorders. For pregnant women, ENDS pose significant risks as they can damage the growing fetus.
    ENDS also expose non-smokers and bystanders to nicotine and other harmful chemicals.
    The liquid in ENDS can burn skin and rapidly cause nicotine poisoning if swallowed or absorbed through the skin. There is a risk of the devices leaking, or of children swallowing the liquid, and ENDS have been known to cause serious injuries through fires and explosions.
    Do e-cigarettes (ENDS) cause lung injuries?
    There is growing evidence to show that ENDS use could cause lung damage.
    On 17 September 2019, the United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention activated an emergency investigation into links between ENDS use and lung injuries and deaths.
    By 10 December 2019, the USA reported more than 2409 hospitalized cases and 52 confirmed deaths.
    At least five other countries have initiated investigations to identify cases of lung injuries related to ENDS use.

    Sick, isn’t it?

    • beobrigitte says:

      As for vaccines: Here a new article from “Nature”:
      https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00190-6

      Rolf Hilgenfeld, who is based at the University of Lübeck in Germany, has been trying to develop a cure for coronaviruses since the 2002–03 outbreak of severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS).
      I guess there wasn’t extensive funding of this project.

      The early-stage drug candidates are not ready for use in people, but Hilgenfeld wants to start animal testing with the aim of developing treatments for future coronavirus outbreaks.
      This guy is nearer to developing an anti-viral treatment than I have anything I have come across recently.

      In Wuhan, I will wear a face mask all the time.
      I do hope he does so to prevent bacterial infections which could compromise his immune system and therefore increases the death risk of a corona virus infection.

      If all goes well, how fast could you finish the pre-clinical testing? Could the compounds help subdue the new virus?
      The problem with these antiviral compounds is that when you have the compound ready there are no patients. The new coronavirus outbreak will probably be over in six months, like the SARS one was. After six months, we could have data that show one of our compounds works against the new virus, and would be able to collaborate on developing it as a drug. But if by then the outbreak is over, there will be no patients, so how can you do clinical trials?

      And the total number of people infected, if you combine SARS, MERS and this new virus, is under 12,500 people. That’s not a market. The number of cases is too small. Pharmaceutical companies are not interested.

      The article ends:
      Some people are under the impression that you’re delivering a cure for the disease. Does this concern you?
      What happened is that a radio station contacted me because I do work related to SARS. I told them I was going to China and they wrote a story with a question mark in the title asking whether I could save people from the Wuhan virus. That was picked up. The idea that I have a drug is premature. I am trying to correct that.

  6. Dmitry says:

    And that is not even a “deadly” virus. Look at a really lethal ongoing flu from an unexpected source: the US.
    https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1177725.shtml
    Nobody is worried about American viruses. Everybody is supposed to worry about China.

    • beobrigitte says:

      Dmitry, since quite a number of years flu vaccination is “offered” (some people want to make this vaccination compulsory!) to the public.
      But you are right when it comes to publicity.

    • beobrigitte says:

      I don’t think it will be this bad. There are too many variables to support Read’s theory and although travel restrictions to and from Wuhan will show an effect, a large number of abandoned pets (e.g. dogs, some also infected) may well leave the area.

      That said, Read admits there is a chance that he is wrong, largely due to using flawed assumptions:

      Our findings are critically dependent on the assumptions underpinning our model, and the timing and reporting of confirmed cases, and there is considerable uncertainty associated with the outbreak at this early stage.
      Yet even with these caveats in mind, Read’s work suggests that a basic reproductive number for this 2019-nCoV outbreak is materially, perhaps catastrophically higher compared to other emergent coronaviruses, “suggesting that containment or control of this pathogen may be substantially more difficult.”

      Even assuming that most of Read’s assumptions are overly harsh and pessimistic, his summary leaves little hope that the Coronavirus epidemic will be contained any time soon:

      “We are still in the early days of this outbreak and there is much uncertainty in both the scale of the outbreak, as well as key epidemiological information regarding transmission. However, the rapidity of the growth of cases since the recognition of the outbreak is much greater than that observed in outbreaks of either SARS or MERS-CoV. This is consistent with our higher estimates of the reproductive number for this outbreak compared to these other emergent coronaviruses, suggesting that containment or control of this pathogen may be substantially more difficult.”

      *End of part 1*

      • beobrigitte says:

        *Part 2*
        The death toll has just risen to 42.
        https://edition.cnn.com/asia/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-hnk-intl-01-25-20/index.html

        1 hr 1 min ago
        Death toll rises to 42 from Wuhan coronavirus, with 1,409 confirmed cases in mainland China
        From CNN’s Steven Jiang in Beijing

        The confirmed cases of Wuhan coronavirus has risen to 1,409 across mainland China.
        According national and provincial health authorities, 42 deaths have been confirmed.

        Confirmed cases in China:

        Hubei (includes Wuhan): 761, including 40 deaths
        Guangdong: 78
        Zhejiang: 62
        Chongqing: 57
        Beijing: 51
        Hunan: 43
        Anhui: 39
        Shanghai: 33
        Henan: 32
        Sichuan: 28
        Shandong: 27
        Guangxi: 23
        Hainan: 19
        Fujian: 18
        Jiangsu: 18
        Jiangxi: 18
        Liaoning: 17
        Shaanxi: 15
        Yunnan: 11
        Tianjin: 10
        Heilongjiang: 9, including 1 death
        Hebei: 8, including 1 death
        Inner Mongolia: 7
        Shanxi: 6
        Gansu: 4
        Guizhou: 4
        Jilin: 4
        Ningxia: 3
        Xinjiang: 3
        Qinghai: 1

        Cases outside mainland China (38 total):

        Hong Kong: 5
        Thailand: 5
        Australia: 4
        Taiwan: 3
        Malaysia: 3
        Japan: 3
        France: 3
        Singapore: 3
        US: 2
        Macao: 2
        Vietnam: 2
        South Korea: 2
        Nepal: 1

        All 31 people tested so far in the UK showed negative results but there are still 2000 people to be found and tested.

        • beobrigitte says:

          *Part 3*
          (Apologies, Frank, for the lengthy comments!!)

          Another factor is the mortality rate of the total number of cases.
          The total number of cases (assuming the first reported case on 31.12.2019 is correct) within 26 days has risen to 1409 (38 cases across the rest of the world) of which 42 people have died with no peak of the disease in sight.
          To this date the mortality rate is 3% of the people infected. This is set to increase further.

          WHO worries about tobacco or e-cigarettes?

  7. beobrigitte says:

    I retract Part 1 of my replies, as:
    https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-56-people-killed-from-outbreak-in-china-11918069
    The latest figures reported on Sunday cover the past 24 hours and mark an increase of 15 deaths and 688 cases.

    The BBC reports about the rapidly increasing rate of infection is rather brief (2 Minutes) with no mention of the 2000 people who travelled into the UK in recent weeks from Wuhan.
    Right now the BBC is interviewing some sort of “expert” who mentions that we are nowhere near containing the spread (R0 needs to be <1; currently it is 2.5) but appears far more concerned with avoiding public panic. "The public is advised by the WHO" (Travel advice on their web site dated 24.01.2020).
    The employees of the WHO are either enjoying their weekend off work or are busy conjuring up more methods of humiliations for smokers/vapers.
    At this point in time (26.01.2020, 08:10 hrs) there is no update about Ebola (66% mortality rate) in Congo nor the rapid spread of the Coronavirus (currently 3% mortality rate) on their web site.

    I shall enjoy my Sunday by cancelling my plan to watch the Chinese New Year celebrations (avoiding crowded places, such as town centers/public transport) as well as keeping my pets indoors.

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