Bullying Bastard Doctors

Thanks to Rose for drawing attention to this report:

At a glance | Prof Dame Sally Davies’ review of obesity crisis

Key proposals:

Ban eating or drinking anything but plain water on all urban public transport

Extend sugar tax on drinks to cover milkshake and flavoured coffees

Consider new taxes on all unhealthy foods, if action is not taken to cut their sugar content. Alternatively, put snacks in plain packaging, as has happened for cigarettes

Overhaul VAT so all unhealthy fare is consistently covered, and healthy foods exempt

Place a calorie cap on all meals sold in cafes and restaurants

End any advertising or marketing of unhealthy products at sports or concerts. Only sell low calorie food as such events

It’s quite mind-bending, really. Clearly smoking bans and the hyper-taxation of tobacco were just the tip of the iceberg. Dame Sally Davies doesn’t just want want to control what people smoke, but also what they eat. No doubt she also wants to regulate what they drink too.

If she gets her way, everyone is going to start hating bullying bastard doctors like her. Everyone is going to start hating doctors. And it’ll signal the death of the medical profession.

What she’s doing is to step into the moral void left by the decay of Christianity, and start introducing a new medical morality, in which “sinful” behaviour is replaced by “unhealthy” behaviour.

And she has no hesitation whatsoever about making her her edicts into the law of the land. So that if you eat or drink anything but plain water on public transport, you’ll have a fine slapped on you.

It goes further: she wants to change human culture.

“It is about changing the culture so snacking is no longer normalised. We need to make the bus, the train and the tube a safe place for children,” she said.

“It is a mindless way to eat and seeing other people eating does prompt you to think about eating.”

What’s wrong with snacking? Why does seeing people eating on public transport make it unsafe for children? If seeing people eating “prompts people to think about eating”, isn’t that exactly what happens in restaurants? Does she want to ban people “mindlessly” eating in restaurants too?

“We need to change the culture so food is not centre stage. We know that calories are better controlled if you eat breakfast, lunch and tea or supper rather than if you eat on the run.”

Why are calories better controlled if you eat at set times of the day? Why should we control calories? How many people sit down at for lunch and count the calories in their roast beef and Yorkshire pudding? How do you know how many calories are in a big fat crispy roast potato? Is it written on them?

Furthermore, some people need more calories than others. Large people who who perform heavy outdoor manual labour (e.g. digging ditches) are doing more physical work than pen-pushers in well-heated offices, so they’ll need more calories (because that’s what calories are: physical work). Anyone’s required calorie intake is determined by their calorie expenditure. If you live a busy active life, you’ll be using up calories faster than someone who remains seated all day. So if we’re to be “mindful” about our calorie intake, shouldn’t we be mindful about our calories expenditures, what we’re doing all day?

I have no objection to people thinking about calories. In my ice age simulation models I’m thinking about calories all the time – just not the calories in food, but the calories of heat which flow from the Sun and the centre of the Earth. And clearly Dame Sally Davies thinks about food in the same way as I do: as calories. What’s different is that she is a petty tyrant, in ways that I am not. She wants to control and regulate people, and I don’t. I want to free people, not control them.

What’s worse is that Sally Davies isn’t in the least bit an unusual Chief Medical Officer. After all, her predecessors include not only Sir Liam Donaldson (who threatened to resign if smoking wasn’t banned in all pubs in Britain, not just in those that served food), but also the notorious Sir George Godber. She comes from an entire new culture of petty tyranny which is has emerged in the medical profession over the past half century or more. These people are no longer interested in merely curing disease or caring for the sick: they want to control people’s behaviour right down to the details of every morsel of food they eat.

In my view, medical doctors are essentially no different from car mechanics. Their job is to repair people in the same way as mechanics repair cars. It’s not the job of mechanics to tell their customers where, or how fast , or how far they should drive their cars: that’s for the drivers to decide. But this is precisely what the tyrannical new doctors in the medical profession want to do. And they are quite open in their wish to make their prescriptions into statute law.

It will come to a collision between this upstart medical profession and the countless millions of people that they want to control and to command. And the inevitable result will be the destruction of the medical profession, and the diminution of their status to something akin to that of car mechanics. The medical profession will go the same way as the bullying, browbeating bishops and priests before them, and for the same reason.

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17 Responses to Bullying Bastard Doctors

  1. Rose says:

    1 March 2011
    “We have to start de-normalising alcohol – it is not like other types of food and drink”
    Dr Vivienne Nathanson, British Medical Association
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12599471

    Denormalise is frequently used by Tobacco Control, but curiously de-normalise doesn’t seem to be a word any where else, it’s used as a technical term in computing and means something very different.

    • jaxthefirst says:

      “ … it is not like other types of food and drink …”

      Hmm. Sounds familiar, no? Isn’t that exactly the argument that Frau Gruppenführer Arnott (or one of her henchmen) came out with in answer to the “slippery slope” question?

  2. RdM says:

    OT a little, but thinking back to Greta et al, using children in crusades is very old:
    https://malagabay.wordpress.com/2019/09/25/1212-childrens-crusade/
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_of_the_children

  3. RdM says:

    Also possibly interesting:
    https://quadrant.org.au/magazine/2019/10/the-revolt-of-the-nobodies/

    and this, earlier, which I haven’t watched yet:
    https://www.nonviolent-conflict.org/resource/success-nonviolent-civil-resistance/

    She will focus on the so-called “3.5% rule”—the notion that no government can withstand a challenge of 3.5% of its population without either accommodating the movement or (in extreme cases) disintegrating. In addition to explaining why nonviolent resistance has been so effective, she will also share some lessons learned about why it sometimes fails.

  4. Timothy Goodacre says:

    This very nasty puritan individual (Dame Sally Davies) when she is losing the argument cries sexism. Twice this week she did this, once with Charlie Stayt on BBC1 breakfast and once with Nick Robinson on BBC Radio 4 Today. She came off worse both times and exposed herself as a control freak. The sooner she leaves for her new highly paid sinecure in Cambridge the better !

  5. Algernon Struthers says:

    Dame Sally. another women over-reaching, and she’s a non-executive director of ‘The Clinton Health Access Initiative’- (part of ‘The Clinton Foundation’). Watch Billy Clinton’s video about saving us, thankless bastards, who don’t want totalitarian ideas.
    As Frank inclines, laws on smoking were just the beginning, and the smoking ban and the obesity epidemic occuring around the same time wasn’t coincidental, unless you’re a blind bat or the likes of Dame Sally.
    Education obviously failed her – the Clintons too, and their like, because without their diplomas, theorectically, they’d be half as stupid, but now it’s twice or more, and worse, worldwide, it’s an exponential stupid. Maybe the Extinction morons are right, the Stone Age is beginning to look good, well, it suffered no silly dames.

  6. Smoking Lamp says:

    And in California, the totalitarian antismokers finally win. After multiple tries and vetos under the past governor, the new governor signed a smoking ban at beaches and state parks into law:

    “Californians will be banned from smoking at state parks and beaches under new law” https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-10-11/californians-banned-smoking-state-parks-beaches

    The antismokers (and lifestyle controllers never stop). They must be defeated. Tobacco control must be destroyed!

    • Rose says:

      Perhaps the previous governor was aware that California took the original lead in the horrors of Eugenics and the new governor is not.

      Students Spread Awareness of California’s Eugenic History
      2013

      “California has a long and deeply troubling history of eugenics that includes the forced sterilization of tens of thousands of men and women. In 2003, the state Senate passed a resolution urging “every citizen of the state to become familiar with the history of the eugenics movement, in the hope that a more educated and tolerant populace will reject any similar abhorrent pseudoscientific movement should it arise in the future.”

      Unfortunately, the resolution did not include concrete mechanisms for achieving this important goal, and most Californians still know little or nothing about their state’s eugenic legacies.”
      https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/genetic-crossroads/201302/students-spread-awareness-california-s-eugenic-history

      • Smoking Lamp says:

        The past two governors, Jerry Brown and Arnold Schwarzenegger respectively, vetoed the bill seven time between them. Brian though the bill was government overreach; Schwarzenegger, a cigar smoker installed a smoking tent in the court yard of the capitol in Sacramento so he could smoke during meetings. They were certainly aware of the issues.

        The current governor is likely aware as well although he also likely received significant funding over the years being a former mayor and before that member of the board of supervisors in San Francisco. This new ban is the result of relentless propaganda and the suppression off dissent by well-funded antismoker activists.

    • Rose says:

      Researchers Find Genetic Connection To Cigarette Smoking
      1999

      “Dean H. Hamer, Ph.D., of the National Cancer Institute and colleagues found from examining 1,107 nonsmokers, current smokers and former smokers that the SLC6A3-9 gene was associated with certain personality characteristics that influenced a person’s susceptibility of being able to start and stop smoking.

      A person with the SLC6A3-9 genotype was found to have lower novelty seeking traits than a person without this genotype, according to the study. And because novelty seeking has been associated with a desire to smoke, said Dr. Hamer, “a low level of novelty seeking could be a predictor of smoking cessation. Indeed, average novelty seeking scores were found to be significantly lower in former smokers than in current smokers. Those with low levels of novelty seeking have an easier time giving up cigarettes than those with high levels of novelty seeking.”
      https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1999/01/990126081714.htm

      The Eugenic Temptation
      When ethics lag behind technology
      2000

      “One of the fullest and most enthusiastic cases made for genetic modification of human behavior can be found in a recent book by Dean Hamer of the National Cancer Institute. In his popular volume Living with Our Genes, Hamer identifies a series of “behaviors determined largely by heredity:” an obese gene, genetics of gender, “addictions to alcohol, tobacco, and dangerous drugs.” He asserts that violence and aggression “also have genetic roots” and, not surprisingly, that “the evidence that IQ is largely inherited is overwhelming.” He also claims that his researchers have identified genes for other personality traits: novelty-seeking and worry. Hamer confidently claims that “the emerging science of molecular biology has made startling discoveries that show beyond a doubt that genes are the single most important factor that distinguishes one person from another.” In fact, he indicates, “we come in large part ready-made from the factory.”

      Hamer sees the successes of genome research raising the ultimate issues: “We soon will have the ability to change and manipulate human behavior through genetics.”
      https://harvardmagazine.com/2000/03/the-eugenic-temptation.html

      • beobrigitte says:

        Hamer sees the successes of genome research raising the ultimate issues: “We soon will have the ability to change and manipulate human behavior through genetics.”
        That I find scary as it will be made easy to find an excuse to eliminate our greatest teacher in life: DIFFERENT people.

  7. beobrigitte says:

    At a glance | Prof Dame Sally Davies’ review of obesity crisis

    Key proposals:

    Ban eating or drinking anything but plain water on all urban public transport

    Extend sugar tax on drinks to cover milkshake and flavoured coffees

    Consider new taxes on all unhealthy foods, if action is not taken to cut their sugar content. Alternatively, put snacks in plain packaging, as has happened for cigarettes

    Overhaul VAT so all unhealthy fare is consistently covered, and healthy foods exempt

    Place a calorie cap on all meals sold in cafes and restaurants

    End any advertising or marketing of unhealthy products at sports or concerts. Only sell low calorie food as such events

    Thank you, Rose and Frank for providing proof that the highest of education does either not protect one from obsessional idiocy, or from living a kind of humour not many appreciate. Unfortunately previous demands made by Prof Dame Sally Davies leads to the exclusion of the latter.

    Why I am laughing about this Prof?
    Ban eating or drinking anything but plain water on all urban public transport
    This tends to be bottled water. I prefer my water from a tap because it hasn’t been stood in warehouses in plastic bottles or being placed in the sun for microbes to flourish. Tap water is fresh and already paid for to ONE water company who will be dragged in front of a court should their water make me ill.

    Extend sugar tax on drinks to cover milkshake and flavoured coffees
    Neither of them contains much sugar but if customers like them sweet, there is plenty of cheap artificial sweeteners added which promote weight gain.

    Consider new taxes on all unhealthy foods, if action is not taken to cut their sugar content. Alternatively, put snacks in plain packaging, as has happened for cigarettes
    Some foods classed as terribly, terribly unhealthy, i.e. fat, are necessary for our bodies’ vitamin uptake.
    Plain packaging has not made one person stop smoking. It looked weird initially, now we’re used to it and buy our cigarettes/tobacco in camouflage-green packets with pictures on it.

    Overhaul VAT so all unhealthy fare is consistently covered, and healthy foods exempt
    See above. Our bodies NEED fat and sugar also. “Healthy” foods (anything trendily grainy) have caused serious bowel issues in health fanatics, so, by definition these foods are unhealthy.

    Place a calorie cap on all meals sold in cafes and restaurants
    Oh, goody! Ruin the last pubs surviving the smoking ban! Unless Dame Sally excluded them in her demand. In that case restaurants may start catering better for smokers again.

    End any advertising or marketing of unhealthy products at sports or concerts. Only sell low calorie food as such events
    Who will go to these events? C’mon! Sunflower seed (oily!!) just do not replace a beer or a burger. And most “health” foods are becoming terribly unhealthy for one reason or the other when consumed exclusively.
    I already quit going to sports events because there is a smoking ban!

    It will come to a collision between this upstart medical profession and the countless millions of people that they want to control and to command. And the inevitable result will be the destruction of the medical profession, and the diminution of their status to something akin to that of car mechanics. The medical profession will go the same way as the bullying, browbeating bishops and priests before them, and for the same reason.
    The collision won’t only be with this upstart medical profession. It will be primarily with the political parties whose leaders show their personal greed by complying with idiotic demands.
    Let’s face it, the snow flakes can’t wait for us boomers to die. According to ASH et al we should have died weeks after we were born considering the amounts of smokers and ashtrays around us at the time. We’re still here in great numbers. And we are used to be ADULTS, making our OWN decisions. Think about that!

    • Igrowmyown says:

      Even Debretts only advises against eating smelly food on public transport and adds that Mars Bars are ok. Anyone for fried mars bar?

  8. jaxthefirst says:

    What about snacking on an apple or an orange on public transport? Surely that would be setting a good example, not a bad one. Why not a partial ban? Oh, of course, because that wouldn’t denormalise – err – eating, would it? Clearly, like most Healthists, it’s not the activity that she hates, but the fact that it’s enjoyable.

  9. Rose says:

    It seems that Dame Sally’s strictures are only for lesser beings.

    2016

    “Britain’s top doctor has been terrorising moderate drinkers into giving up wine and lecturing women to consider every sip of alcohol a deadly step towards breast cancer.
    But it appears Dame Sally Davies – the UK’s ‘nanny in chief’ who only this week urged others to ‘do as I do’ – has relaxed her killjoy approach to booze at home.

    New photographs show the chief medical officer clutching a half-full champagne flute in the lounge of her £3milllion London townhouse.
    And having told Britons no amount of drinking is safe another social media image shows her spending time with husband Willem and daughter Isa on a table stacked with wine and beer.”

    “Dame Sally’s hardline views on alcohol have caused consternation and she encouraged drinkers to drink tea instead.
    On Tuesday, she told MPs she would like women who reach for a drink to ask themselves: ‘Do I want my glass of wine or do I want to raise my risk of breast cancer?’
    She added: ‘And I take a decision each time I have a glass.’

    But her strong views don’t stop there, saying cigarettes ‘rot you from the inside’ and called obesity ‘as big a risk as terrorism’.”

    “Last month Dame Sally published strict new alcohol guidelines and urged men and women to have no more than 14 units a week – six or seven glasses of wine – and to take several days off.”
    Advising others on their drinking she said last year: ‘If you have a bottle of wine a night – have it over two nights’.

    This strict advice came as a surprise to those people who have been guests at her £3 million home in North London, where they have been offered fine vintages.”
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3431444/The-health-hypocrite-Chief-medical-officer-told-women-think-cancer-reaching-wine-pictured-enjoying-drinks-family.html

    Unfortunately if you employ people to make pronouncements on the error of peoples ways, they will feel called to make such statements, however trivial or mindless, just to justify their wage, witness our MPs.

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