Another Slowly Mounting Civil War

Smoking Lamp has drawn attention to this:

One of the upsides of living in France is enjoying a drink or something to eat on one of the many café terraces, and be it sunny or rainy, smokers are always part of the picture.

But smoking while sitting at said terraces has become quite polarising – what stands as an irreplaceable ritual and a vital slice of France for some is a hugely anti-social habit for others.

The possibility of a smoking ban on café terraces is up again for debate, after the research institute Opinion Way published a poll that said 73 percent of the French population was in favour of such a ban.

What surprised me about this article was that the opening paragraph describes smoking as one of the upsides of French cafés, rather than one of the downsides.

In fact the whole article is surprisingly balanced for one about smoking. The antismokers’ point of view is provided, but so also is the smokers’ point of view.

…for Marc, a Paris bar owner, a smoking ban is simply out of question.

When asked what he thinks of a potential ban, he immediately frowns and mumbles: “Talk about pushing it! You already can’t smoke inside, now they want to apply the ban on terraces as well? That is really nonsense, they would kill hundreds of businesses.”

Elisabeth, a 33 year-old saleswoman could not agree more with him.

She said: “I get that it can be unpleasant for non-smokers, but an actual ban seems like a bit of stretch. First café terraces, then it is going be the streets altogether – sounds like dictatorship to me!”

They’re both right, of course. A terrace smoking ban would kill hundreds of businesses. In fact it would kill thousands of businesses. Particularly in those regions of France where smoking prevalence is highest.

And, yes, it is dictatorship. Smoking bans have always been dictatorship. Tobacco Control is all about controlling people. Tobacco Control wants to control everyone. The clue is in the name.

The simplest thing to do is allow those bars and cafés whose proprietors want them them “smoke-free” to be thus, and to allow those who want them to be smoky to have them that way. Why does there have to be a one-size-fits-all solution? Why does everything have to be the same? After all, it’s not as if restaurants all serve the same food. Indian restaurants sell Indian food, and Chinese restaurants sell Chinese food. Nobody goes into a a Chinese restaurant and orders a chicken vindaloo.

I have no objection to antismokers having their own bars and restaurants in which smoking is banned, just as long as smokers like me have bars and restaurants where smoking isn’t banned. I’d never go into an antismoking bar, because I don’t like smoking bans, and I don’t like antismokers. But Tobacco Control will never live and let live, which is why Tobacco Control must be destroyed.

Beyond all that, it seems to me to be crazy for anyone to contemplate banning smoking on French café terraces, given that France is already near a state of civil war given the continuing Yellow Vest protests, which I tend to see as being an uprising of French smokers against the antismoking Emmanuel Macron

From a recent article in ZeroHedge with the title France Is Slowly Sinking Into Chaos:

The main concern of Macron and the French government seems not to be the risk of riots, the public’s discontent, the disappearance of Christianity, the disastrous economic situation, or Islamization and its consequences. Instead, it is climate change. Although the amount of France’s carbon dioxide emissions is infinitesimal (less than 1% of the global total), combatting “human-induced climate change” appears Macron’s absolute priority.

Antismokers like Macron are obsessed with trivialities. And he’s one of those people who knows what’s good for everybody.

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12 Responses to Another Slowly Mounting Civil War

  1. Mark Jarratt says:

    Assume all readers of Frank’s blog advocating personal autonomy and free choice are aware of this fine effort, or soon will be!

  2. One of the greatly repeated Antismoker “Meme Lies” is that “Smokers want to smoke anywhere and everywhere at any time they please!”

    I like to respond with variations on the following:

    “Smokers have NEVER pushed for a universal law that would force ALL businesses or establishments of various types to allow smoking and provide ashtrays and such to smokers at all times even if the owners wanted to ban it. Unfortunately, Antismokers are not as reasonable, and seem to constantly want to impose their will and their rule upon all the “lesser people” around them, moving inch by inch and step by step to wider and wider and stronger and stronger bans, never stopping no matter how many they get, until they reach their end goal of forcing their total bans upon all private properties, public places, and multi-unit housing, anywhere and everywhere at all times.”

    – MJM, Free Thinker ‘n Free Smoker

    • Rose says:

      The problem with not objecting to things that suit you or at least don’t inconvenience you, is that it puts you straight in the firing line for the next well-meaning or malicious removal of liberty.
      Nobody cared when I was forced by law and penalty of fines to wear a motorcycle helmet, but they didn’t half whine when they were forced to wear seatbelts.
      On a matter of principle it was MY head and their bodies belonged to them up until those laws were passed, now it has gone so far that we are taxed if we want a fizzy drink on a hot day and the straws are about to be banned.

  3. Algernon Struthers says:

    Besides the obesity explosion, I noticed English pubs closures increasing dramatically after the smoking ban. The 73% of French asked about smoking, as Frank mentions above, will in reality will mean, 73% of non-smokers input.
    Curious fact that during the Black Plague those involved with tobacco, around tobacco houses had a low incidence of catching plague. Coincidentally, the base antidote to Ebola, which is currently spreading around Africa, is nicotine.

  4. Rhys says:

    In medieval times they burned eucalyptus and tobacco in sickrooms. I think tobacco as a disinfectant probably goes back a long ways.

    • Algernon Struthers says:

      And it’s frustrating that this kind of useful old knowledge is being swept under the carpet by totalitarians to further their utopian agenda.

    • Rose says:

      Medical Uses of Tobacco Past and Present
      Page10 of 18

      Tobacco as a Prophylactic in Contagious Disease.

      “Allen (1835) stated that Diemerbroeck [De peste, 1646] has usually been quoted as authority for the anticontagious character of tobacco.

      During the Great Plague in London in 1665, children were told to smoke in their school- rooms (Lancet 1: 1266-1267, 1902); and A Brief Abstract of the Virtues of the American Tobacco Plant (1783) records that buffers of the dead, in charge of dead-carts, at first used tobacco as a deodorizer, “little thinking that what they used for momentary relief would prove a constant preventive.

      When the Plague was happily stayed, the virtues of tobacco began to be investigated, and it was found that those persons who plentifully used it, either in smoking or in snuffing, had most wonderfully escaped the dire contagion: for though they’ visited the chambers of the sick, attended the funerals of cartloads at a time, they unexpectedly avoided the infection.”

      Medicinal smoke reduces airborne bacteria
      https: //

      Validation of smoke inhalation therapy to treat microbial infections.

      Braithwaite M, Van Vuuren
      “In traditional healing, the burning of selected indigenous medicinal plants and the inhalation of the liberated smoke are widely accepted and a practiced route of administration.
      This study elucidated the rationale behind this commonly practiced treatment by examining the antimicrobial activity for five indigenous South African medicinal plants commonly administered through inhalation (Artemisia afra, Heteropyxis natalensis, Myrothamnus flabellifolius, Pellaea calomelanos and Tarchonanthus camphoratus).

      An apparatus was designed to simulate the burning process that occurs in a traditional setting and the smoke fraction was captured for analysis and bioassay. Methanol and acetone extracts as well as the essential oil (for the aromatic species) were prepared and assayed in parallel with the smoke fraction.

      Antimicrobial data revealed that in most cases, the ‘smoke-extract’ obtained after burning had lower minimum inhibitory concentration (MIC) values than the corresponding solvent extracts and essential oils. The combustion, acetone and methanol extracts produced different chromatographic profiles as demonstrated for Pellaea calomelanos where several compounds noted in the smoke fraction were not present in the other extracts.

      These results suggest that the combustion process produces an ‘extract’ with superior antimicrobial activity and provides in vitro evidence for inhalation of medicinal smoke as an efficient mode of administration in traditional healing”

      • Algernon Struthers says:

        Thanks Rose, that is comprehensive look at what’s swept-under-the-carpet history. But in 2019 the mainstream has the junk science approach of smoking bad, for reasons ‘smoking bad.’

  5. Philip Neal says:

    Opinion Way seems to be a market research company, not a polling organisation, and doubtless came up with a predetermined result.

  6. smokingscot says:


    Found this article interesting in the sense that the author has at last cottoned on to the slippery slope, though it’ll take quite some time before the majority in society get on board.

    Also some useful links to other articles.

    I know sott is not a majestic in the alt media sphere, however fair dues for giving her the space.

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