Catholic Remainers and Protestant Leavers


Britain will remain as a member state of the EU until 31 October, with the option to leave earlier if Theresa May can secure Commons support for the Brexit deal, after a Franco-German carve-up of the UK’s future.

And then there’ll be a further extension 10-year until 2030. Britain is not going to be allowed to leave. And nobody else is going to be allowed to leave either.

I had the thought this morning that we’re in a replay of the Reformation. The European Union is another Roman Catholic Church. Its president is a pope who is elected by fellow cardinals. Ordinary people have next to no say.

Remainers are Roman Catholics. and Leavers are Protestants. Remainers want to continue belong to the European, universal, catholic belief system. They owe their primary loyalty to Rome (or the new Rome in Brussels). Leavers owe their primary loyalty to their own country. They want to make their own choices about what they will and won’t believe.

And Roman Catholicism is itself an echo of the Roman Empire, with a Pope in place of its Emperor, exerting spiritual power rather than military power.

The underlying struggle is between the individual and society. The Roman Catholics form a society in which individuals lose their autonomy. Protestants are individuals who re-assert individual choice and individual responsibility.

I must re-read Boris Johnson’s The Dream of Rome. The copy I have is a signed copy, sent to me as a gift by his secretary, Melissa, over ten years ago. I seem to remember it started with the Varian Disaster of 9 AD. If Boris is going to be our next Prime Minister, it might be helpful to rediscover what he thinks about a European Union that is a recreation of the Roman Empire and of the Roman Catholic Chorch.

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8 Responses to Catholic Remainers and Protestant Leavers

  1. Rose says:

    Britain will remain as a member state of the EU until 31 October, with the option to leave earlier if Theresa May can secure Commons support for the Brexit deal

    I see it more that the ball is back at last in the public’s court after nearly 3 years of wilful misinterpretation – we didn’t know what we were voting for, we are xenophobic and ill-educated, it was a cry for help from the left behind or that we were all very elderly and looking fondly back to the British Empire and indeed that many of us now must be dead.

    Sick Remainers Produce “Commemorative” Tea Towel With Dead Brexiteers On
    22 March 2019

    So now we have two new opportunities to remind Parliament that we are still here and meant exactly what we said the first time, without the threatened recourse to a rigged Loser’s vote (Remain v May’s Deal}

    On the upcoming Local Elections, I am relieved to say that I have had no literature from the Conservative councillors who have served this area well for so many years and whom I did not wish to punish, but I have had a very nasty leaflet from the would be Labour Councillor and a mere scrap of paper from a passionate local Brexiteer who was on the Sunderland to London Brexit March.
    Hmm, choices, choices…

    • Frank Davis says:

      I have no wish to punish Conservative councillors either.

      • Rose says:

        Apparently some canvassers are getting a lot of abuse on the doorstep and others are flatly refusing to leaflet, several Conservative Associations are trying to deselect their MPs because they are so disgusted with their behaviour, unfortunately CCHQ keep stopping them, to stay in power they need every one of them, whether they vote against them or not.
        It’s virtually a hung Parliament, hence the confidence and supply agreement with the DUP.

        Interesting times.

  2. Dmitry Kosyrev says:

    On an entirely different subject, my American friends sent me this article about Godber’s legacy crumbling down.

    And the same with Finland.

    Looks like the moment you get yourself an obligatory NHS, it becomes a repressive one, but still cannot cure itself…

    • Frank Davis says:

      While medicine is private, you’re a paying customer, and your doctor will be trying to keep you alive. Once you cease to be a customer, your doctor will probably cease to try to keep you alive. In fact you most likely just become a nuisance to him, and he’ll wish you wouldn’t bother him.

      • waltc says:

        Sounds right. And once a doctor becomes just a cog in a bureaucratic machine, he stops caring about being a doctor.

  3. Charles Burns says:

    Catholicism seems that way to outsiders. But traditionally, until the Vatican 2 and the Leftist “popes,” Catholic social teaching was based on Subsidiary, the antithesis of UNs and EUs. That the best social system is a benevolent and somewhat detached and distant monarchy, in which issues are settled locally, respecting private property rights, guided by Christian principles. To paraphrase Chesterton, it hasn’t failed, it has never been tried..

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