Two Pieces of Good News

There seems to be a surprising amount of good news around these days. The latest example:

Local councils cut millions of pounds from stop-smoking services while investments in tobacco companies soar

 …councils have nearly halved the money available to help smokers to beat their addiction.

In around a dozen areas, locally run stop-smoking services – widely regarded as the most effective way to quit – are being scrapped entirely.

My reading of that is that the money used to bully and browbeat smokers is drying up.

The dramatic reduction in funding, which is revealed in freedom of information requests submitted by The Independent, is having a “severe impact on the most vulnerable people”, critics have warned.

And my reading of this is that they either mean that smokers are the most vulnerable people in society that the bullies in Tobacco Control can rob and defraud and defame, or they mean that the bullies in Tobacco Control are the people most vulnerable to cuts in funding.

And if tobacco company investments are soaring, it rather suggests that there are lots of savvy financial advisors in local government who are disregarding all the health warnings and taking advantage of good investment opportunities.

Anyway, it looks like Tobacco Control is in retreat in UK local government.

Also, from Junican:

ASH Will Have to Compete for Grants

I haven’t seen this anywhere else, but I suppose it’s true. And it must be bad news for ASH, because giving  money to more or less anyone else than ASH will be money well spent, given that ASH is completely uncompetitive, and unproductive.

Anyway, that’s good news too. Perhaps it explains why the money for Tobacco Control is drying up.

In another report:

When New York Times reporter Rukmini Callimachi toured towns outside of Mosul following ISIS control, she noticed that many of the residents were publicly smoking in a giant eff you to their former oppressors.

“Yesterday, my team made it to the furthest point I’ve gone northwest of Mosul to the locality of Badoosh, where we interviewed residents,” Callimachi tweeted in April. “I noticed that everywhere we went in Badoosh, residents were ‘wearing’ packs of cigarettes.”

She added in a tweet:

Let me just say that I’m a California girl through & through & I hate 2nd hand smoke but it was obvious that smoking for this man=freedom

Smoking has always been an expression of freedom. It’s as much a symbol of freedom to me as it is to anyone living in or around Mosul. And it always will be.

But the killer came in the last paragraph of the report:

Today, the people of Badoosh are free. But alas, smokers in America’s largest cities still face the tyranny of nanny state mayors. In recognition of their bravery in the face of Islamic extremists and their inspiration to those of us still living under the yoke of oppression, Mohamed and his friends are all Washington Free Beacon Men of the Year.

Here someone in Washington can see the identity between the antismoking thugs in ISIS and the antismoking thugs in the USA. For perhaps one good thing that ISIS has done has been to reveal the true face of antismoking: in the USA and UK antismokers need to at least pretend to be “helping” smokers, but ISIS never made any pretence of “helping” them at all as it casually beat them and murdered them.

And speaking of murder, Chris Snowdon reports:

Britons are being urged to cut their meals to just 1,600 calories a day and 200 calories for snacks in tough new health guidelines.

They will be told they should limit themselves to 400 calories for breakfast, 600 for lunch and 600 for dinner.

This comes to 1,600 calories, well below the current recommended daily intake of 2,000 calories for women and 2,500 for men.

I was writing only a day or two back about the Murderous Intent of Tobacco Control, and this new recommendation by Public Health seemed to fit perfectly with that: now they want to starve everybody.

At least smokers aren’t being singled out this time: everybody must starve.

I suppose this doesn’t really count as good news, except that it goes to show how thoroughly nasty these people are.

 

 

 

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21 Responses to Two Pieces of Good News

  1. Paul B says:

    ASH will indeed have to compete for grants – https://www.theyworkforyou.com/wrans/?id=2017-12-18.120096.h&s=smoking#g120096.r0

    Which is outstanding news!

    • Frank Davis says:

      From your link:

      The Department is still considering the scope and procurement process for grants to support the implementation of the Tobacco Control Plan. As such there has been no formal communication with Action on Smoking and Health (ASH) or any other organisation on the proposed tender for tobacco control in England. We have informed ASH that the tender process was yet to commence, and reiterated that the grant will be competed for, in line with Cabinet Office standards for new grants. All interested applicants will need to follow the terms and conditions of the tender after the invitation for bids has been announced.

      Perhaps a few smokers might compete with ASH for grants to implement the Tobacco Control Plan. If it’s a competitive tender, then the smokers could put in a very low bid – say £1.53 – in order to get the grant.

      They could then spend the grant on beer and cigarettes as part of their carefully worked out implementation of the Tobacco Control Plan.

  2. smokingscot says:

    And the cigarettes the chap in Badoosh was smoking is this:

    https://en.sas.am/products/Cigarettes_Akhtamar_Original__27529/

    They retail for the equivalent of 50p Sterling a pack in Armenia.

  3. beobrigitte says:

    Local councils cut millions of pounds from stop-smoking services while investments in tobacco companies soar
    This is good news! However, the blackmailing of local councils for taking this step has also started:
    In around a dozen areas, locally run stop-smoking services – widely regarded as the most effective way to quit – are being scrapped entirely.
    A 3% rate of “success” of NRT is hardly the most effective way to quit smoking. The only successful quitters I have observed over the years just stopped smoking. No NRT, No psychological blabb.

    Next:
    ASH Will Have to Compete for Grants
    God help us. ASH will produce even more outlandish claims than CROOK does – which the BBC will bleat at prime time. That will keep the money flowing. After all, what is e.g. Deborah Arnott’s yearly salary? She (and numerous others?) will put up a fight!!

    When New York Times reporter Rukmini Callimachi toured towns outside of Mosul following ISIS control, she noticed that many of the residents were publicly smoking in a giant eff you to their former oppressors.
    History repeats itself. It will do so again. During WW2 the anti-smoking propaganda was very successful in the general population. Once they fell, even non-smokers wanted to be seen with a cigarette packet to offer a smoke to guests!

    Britons are being urged to cut their meals to just 1,600 calories a day and 200 calories for snacks in tough new health guidelines.
    To me this does not sound like advice. It sounds like dictation and infanilisaion. I have no problems if people ladle out advice but I object to dictation and my adulthood being taken away from me.
    As it happens, 2000 calories/day all of a sudden appear to be too much for me. I took my own steps to adjust and I believe everyone else can, if they wish to. NO LAW needed. Perhaps people ignoring increasing weight as a means of protest of scared people taking charge of them?

    • waltc says:

      Are you sure you don’t mean “during WW1”? Before it, there was a wave of anti-smoking and even state, tho not national, tobacco prohibition. But from tne 20s to the 80s (despite the SG “causes cancer” report in 1964) smoking was still a majority occupation and anti’s were pretty much crying in the wilderness.

  4. Smoking Lamp says:

    Perhaps the tide is turning? This today as well: POLL: MOST CZECHS WANT EASING OF SMOKING BAN, “One of the most notable legal changes in the Czech Republic this year has been a ban on smoking in pubs and restaurants that entered force before the summer. However a new opinion poll suggests that almost three-fifths of Czechs believe the prohibition is too strict.” http://www.radio.cz/en/section/curraffrs/poll-most-czechs-want-easing-of-smoking-ban

    • beobrigitte says:

      “We have to bear in mind that around CZK 30 billion goes toward dealing with illnesses stemming from smoking annually. These include strokes, heart attacks, cancers and so on. Around 15,000 people die in this country in connection with smoking every year so I wouldn’t be able to support such a change. If anything, I’d be more in favour of leaving it longer before evaluating this law.”
      So……. there was no baby boom in the Czech republic? Only 15000 old people die there every year of ” *giggle* smoking-related-illnesses”? What are the Czechs eating we aren’t?
      The Czech anti-smokers have not entered the loop…….

      Isn’t it funny that only OLD people die of “smoking-related-diseases”? And 15000 OLD people cost the Czech state 30 billion? Girls, guys, we better be careful crossing a road. There might be a reward for knocking us down…… (?)
      Our lives are getting more Kafka-esque by the day….

      • smokingscot says:

        I noted with the Czech ban as well as the intended Austrian ban they made no mention that non smokers would take up the slack in leisure facilities. Now it’s just health stuff.

    • Frank Davis says:

      Very interesting. What’s noteworthy is that there seems to be some sort of public debate about the smoking ban. And that’s very different from the situation in the UK, where there is no public debate at all, and never has been.

      And I think that there is no public debate in the UK mainstream media because the UK mainstream media are pretty much as highly controlled as the mainstream media in, say, East Germany prior to 1990 or so. It’s never been part of the policy of these media organisations to speak up for smokers or draw any attention to them at all. The only permissible excluded social groups are blacks, gays, women, and so forth. There can be no new excluded groups.

      I think it’s interesting that it is in eastern Europe that most of the resistance to smoking bans is found. This is probably because there are a lot more smokers in the ex-eastern bloc countries. But it’s also probably because, when the apparatus of media state control disintegrated during the demise of the eastern bloc, the media suddenly started becoming much more open and truthful. Or at least it was open and truthful until the media control that operated in the West could be introduced.

      In this manner East and West have swapped places. It’s only in the East that there is any semblance of an honest media, and an honest politics.

      • waltc says:

        Because the East knows from long and bitter experience what oppressive government is, and the people, newly liberated, won’t very readily accept it again (more firmly rejecting a Meet the new boss, same as the old boss). The West, whose only experience is of relatively benign democratic republics, is either too naive or too credulous to see what’s creeping in on little cat feet.

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  7. Rose says:

    The old ones are the best, Public Health England reverts to using Simon Chapman’s chemical misdirection from the Lung Goodbye 1983.
    https: //www.industrydocumentslibrary.ucsf.edu/docs/#id=pjwx0143

    Hard-hitting new advert urges smokers to quit
    29 December 2017

    “Smokers are being urged to quit in the new year by a government advertising campaign highlighting how toxic chemicals from cigarettes spread rapidly through the body.
    The 20 second advert features a lone man lighting up outside a building, with the blood vessels in his arms, face and hands quickly turning black as chemicals from the cigarette tar enter his body.

    “Every cigarette you smoke causes poison from tar to enter your bloodstream and spread to every part of your body. If you could see the damage, you’d stop,” the voiceover states.

    The advert, by Public Health England, has been released alongside other media including a short film in which a GP, Dr Dawn Harper, talks to a group of smokers about the levels of carbon monoxide, cadmium and cancer-causing substances called nitrosamines in their blood, and the damage these chemicals can cause to the body. The film stresses that when smokers quit, the levels of these chemicals drop off.”
    https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/dec/29/hard-hitting-new-advert-urges-smokers-to-quit

    Drop off very slightly,maybe, but don’t go entirely, carbon monoxide being made by the body itself as a vital part of the immune system and cadmium being a trace element in fertilizer used on vegetables, as for the rest they don’t say what they are so presumably more of an anti-tobacco article of faith.

    Battery metal among smoking cancer compounds, Public Health England warns
    29 December 2017

    “A metal used in batteries is one of more than 4000 chemicals smokers are inhaling with every cigarette.
    The warning comes as Public Health England begins its January Smoke Free campaign, saying tests show that cadmium – along with more than 70 other cancer-causing compounds – are reaching smokers’ vital organs within seconds of lighting up.

    The new campaign is being led by celebrity GP Dr Dawn Harper, who analysed blood samples from a group of lifelong smokers to encourage them to quit.”
    https://news.sky.com/story/battery-metal-among-smoking-cancer-compounds-public-health-england-warns-11187897

    • Joe L. says:

      Drop off very slightly,maybe, but don’t go entirely, carbon monoxide being made by the body itself as a vital part of the immune system and cadmium being a trace element in fertilizer used on vegetables, as for the rest they don’t say what they are so presumably more of an anti-tobacco article of faith.

      All anti-tobacco articles are articles of faith.

      Aside from the chemicals they fail to mention, there is also an absence of detail as to of the amount of increase in the levels of these chemicals from smoking. As you mentioned, it’s impossible to find a human being with 0% concentration of these chemicals in his/her blood.

      In fact, biologists have classified “normal” levels of many “toxic chemicals,” including cadmium and carbon monoxide (see here and here).

      Thus, without any new experimental data which actually suggests that smoking tobacco raises these levels into toxic ranges for extended periods of time, this is nothing more than classic fear-mongering from Tobacco Control.

      They dust this oldie-but-goodie off every 5-10 years in an attempt to scare the chiiiildren.

      • Rose says:

        In context

        Arsenic, cadmium, and lead in California cropland soils: role of phosphate and micronutrient fertilizers.
        2008

        “Phosphate and micronutrient fertilizers contain potentially harmful trace elements, such as arsenic (As), cadmium (Cd), and lead (Pb). We investigated if application of these fertilizer increases the As, Cd, and Pb concentrations of the receiving soils. More than 1000 soil samples were collected in seven major vegetable production regions across California.

        Benchmark soils (no or low fertilizer input) sampled in 1967 and re-sampled in 2001 served as a baseline. Soils were analyzed for total concentrations of As, Cd, Pb, P, and Zn. The P and Zn concentrations of the soils were indicators of P fertilizer and micronutrient inputs, respectively. Results showed that the concentrations of these elements in the vegetable production fields in some production areas of California had been shifted upward.”
        http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18396556

        The EU were thinking of charging extra for it in 2000

        A possible EU wide charge on cadmium in phosphate fertilizers

        Click to access cadium.pdf

      • RdM says:

        Thanks for those two links.
        Led me down other tracks.

        Out of the Wikipedia one, I see https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carboxyhemoglobin

        I’d been interested in antis use of exhaled (well, in breath, so presumably!) CO measures as a proxy for harm (I thought, if it’s exhaled the body is getting rid of it, excreting any excess, just as one wees out excess vitamin B (complex) so no harm done – and then, obviously, as any even young student might – what is the quantifiable harm?

        How many ppm etc. Well the wikipedia page on Carbon_monoxide answers that to some extent, but curious minds might want to know more…

        A wee while ago I did lots of research on CO & NO, beneficial aspects, micro quantities produced in the body etc. Maybe after a comment from Rose.
        {Thanks, Rose!}

        Lots of links from that, thinking to counteract an anti doc as above.
        One from a known one, http://www.healthnz.co.nz/CObreath.htm
        More on it later maybe.

        But never mind all that;- all that train of thought led me also to remember a great B&W 16mm film I saw when at the film library, from maybe 60’s or 70’s, of a few UK I think blokes climbing a peak, more a volcanic plug or table mountain, deep in South America that could have been a model for (Sir Arthur) Conan Doyle’s novel The Lost World – they had to trek for 3 days though jungle before even making the ascent, one is really rotund, but they’re all up to it, and with great long shots and then a zoom to the climber showing the scale;- and stopping for a ciggy on the way up – and once they’d reached the plateau at the top, having to stay over longer than expected, supply plane late due to weather (they were above the clouds) bemoaning the lack of tobacco, but all in good cheer!

        I wish I could see that film again – a great memory!
        The effort required to take a 16mm film crew along with the hike and climb through jungle to get there along with helpers must have been immense, all documented.

        I think it might have been Mount Roraima, now overrun by tourists from an easy side?

        But that was in the back of my mind when mountaineering came up in the SBD discussions last night, or earlier today, and I remembered other articles about mountaineering smokers (and cyclists and other sportspeople) and mentioned it.

        Which led to discovery of new links, inspiring;-

        Frank, over to you!

  8. RdM says:

    What a great and perfectly relevant advert Vlad, thanks!
    They certainly do have a great archive there!
    [Like the Nazi art archives – things we stole from the industry we destroyed (or tried to!) ]

    For those frustrated with trying to read the small print, right-click (in Windows, or find the equivalent on a Mac) on the image, then open in a new tab.
    Once there, click the + in a O magnifier symbol.

    I was enthused enough to try running the text through an OCR program, but a fair bit of editing needed for 3 columns of text, so for now, just this cropped view:

    Oh, and

    http://tinypic.com/m/k16yyg/2

    Best Wishes for the New Year !!! ;=}))

  9. RdM says:

    O F it, that last was meant to be

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