Blueberry Pie v. Apple Pie

One thing I like about Alex Jones’ Infowars are all the exotic and interesting guests that appear on it. And it seems that a lot of them are there because they can’t get a hearing in the mainstream media. People like Roger Stone, for example, who was – among many other things – Donald Trump’s first presidential campaign manager. Or Dr Jerome Corsi, author of numerous books. Or Steve Pieczenik, psychologist and regime change organiser. These days there seem to be more and more of them, and they’re also becoming presenters on the show as it expands. They’re new voices. And I’m hooked.

One of the guests a couple of days ago was 85-year-old Sheriff Joe Arpaio. who’s been under investigation by Obama for the past 8 years, and who Trump is now rumoured to be about to pardon. About 15½ minutes into the YouTube video Arpaio says:

“You know how I got him on my side? He liked blueberry pie. My wife kept pumping out blueberry pie. I threw in some whiskey from the PX. I got more done with blueberry pie and whiskey than a big stick. That’s how you do it. You go to a back room, light up a cigar, make a deal.”

But elsewhere Arpaio mentions working for the DEA in Austin, Texas. And the Drug Enforcement Agency is pretty much the equivalent of Tobacco Control, only working against all the other drugs (apart from tobacco). Arpaio has probably put hundreds, maybe thousands, of drug dealers and drug runners behind bars.

So Arpaio is a drug warrior, and he’s spent his life fighting against the evils of marijuana and all the rest of the drugs. But he thinks there’s nothing wrong with blueberry pie and whiskey and cigars.

This is a cultural war. And Arpaio has been fighting for whiskey and cigars, and against marijuana and cocaine and opium. And Obama and Holder and all the left wing politicians in the cities have been fighting for marijuana and cocaine and opium, and against whiskey and cigars. Where one side advances, pot smoking gets banned, and tobacco is permitted. Where the other side advances, tobacco gets banned, and pot smoking is permitted.

It’s a cultural division that has split America (and most of the rest of the Western world) since the 1960s, if not earlier. In the cities and universities, people smoked pot and any number of other things. Elsewhere, they drank beer and smoked cigarettes. But instead of peacefully co-existing, allowing people to live and let live, each to his own preference, they first demonised pot and all the other drugs, and then the pot-smokers counter-demonised tobacco and alcohol. It’s a tit-for-tat war that is now approaching civil war levels.

It’s crazy. It could just as easily have been a war between blueberry pie eaters and apple pie eaters, with each side saying how addictive and how poisonous blueberry/apple pie was.

And someone like Alex Jones stands somewhere awkwardly in the middle. He ought to be a whisky-and-cigars guy like Arpaio, but you never see him smoking cigars. Nor do you see any of his guests smoking cigars or cigarettes, even if they’re being interviewed speaking via Skype from their own homes. In that respect, Alex Jones is as politically correct as Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton. And he’s also being politically correct by selling health products on his radio show.  If he wanted to be politically incorrect, he’d sell cheeseburgers and hot dogs. And blueberry pie with whipped cream. And he’d eat them on air. And if he can’t do that in Austin, Texas, then he probably could in Costa Rica or Panama or someplace.

The cultural divide is between pot and tobacco, arts and sciences, left and right, open borders and closed borders, blueberry pie and apple pie. On one issue after another, they line up neatly on opposite sides of the divide.

The simplest thing would be to end all the drug wars. End the war on pot and coke and opium. End the war on tobacco and alcohol. End the war on cheeseburgers and hot dogs and blueberry pie. Tell people they can do what the heck they like, as long as they take the consequences.

But there’s no sign of anything like that happening any time soon. Instead, it’s all slowly boiling up towards civil war

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12 Responses to Blueberry Pie v. Apple Pie

  1. nisakiman says:

    Yes, there is something in the pot & coke vs Tobacco & whisky idea. I remember when I was a young dope fiend, I knew quite a lot of Americans, most of whom recoiled in horror at the idea of mixing tobacco with their grass. And they were really quite anti-tobacco, even back then in the late 60s. The Brits, however, didn’t really have access to grass back then – hash was the norm, and if you want to roll a hash spliff, you have little choice but to use tobacco with it.

    So in the US at least, there was a good deal of anti-tobacco sentiment among the potheads back then. They tended not to drink very much, either, and were often of the “My Body is a Temple” persuasion. And Left leaning; communes, property is theft and all that stuff.

    However, as I say, that doesn’t really explain why anti-smoking became the norm in UK, apart from the fact that the Brits seem to copy most of the American stuff, particularly if it’s stupid.

    • Frank Davis says:

      Yes, in the UK back in the 60s there was a lot of “Their cancer-causing drug is legal, our harmless drug is illegal. How unfair is that?”

    • waltc says:

      In the early 80’s a girl I knew who’d “dropped out” and moved to Paris (after spending time in Amsterdam bec of the legal drugs) invited me to vacation at her place on the Left Bank. She chain-smoked hash but if I lit a cigarette, she went nuts and opened every window in the place

      • beobrigitte says:

        Walt, the girl must have been American who didn’t bother to find out that if she dragged on a “Tuete” (spliff) in Amsterdam, she inhaled tobacco as well.
        I most certainly NEVER smoked the stuff pure in the late 70s/early80s. It was not done then simply because it was not a gentle “Happy Hippie” chill.
        I believe that the Cafes in Amsterdam now have to let their potential customers try the stuff only neat. I find it weird, simply because you determine the amount of tobacco in the spliff and therefore have the chance to determine the level of “chillaxation”.

        Smokerhaters in Europe at that time were rare, if the girl didn’t supply ashtrays to visitors, she can’t have had many friends.

        • waltc says:

          Yes, she was American but I think ants were pretty rare here in America at the time too. No idea what she did in Amsterdam, I was in London before I joined her in Paris, but you’re also right that she hadn’t made many friends except for a girl who lived in her bldg. i got friendly with that girl and after about ten increasingly rancorous days in the apartment, moved to a hotel. The apartment was great, tho. Boul Montparnasse, a stone’s throw from Le Select. Too bad Paris isn’t Paris any more.

  2. garyk30 says:

    A pox on them both!
    The only proper pie has meat and veggies of some sort in it.

    Afterwards, a cake of some sort.

  3. beobrigitte says:

    And the Drug Enforcement Agency is pretty much the equivalent of Tobacco Control, only working against all the other drugs (apart from tobacco). Arpaio has probably put hundreds, maybe thousands, of drug dealers and drug runners behind bars.
    The Drug Enforcement Agency has not manage to stamp out drug users and supply of it. If what I read about the US there is a pharmaceutical industry created new heroin “epidemic”. People became dependent on expensive pain killers and realized that heroin is much cheaper.
    Wherever you are and whatever you read/listen to, the health industry is convinced by Tobacco Control that cigarettes are the worst thing on earth.
    That politicians can’t be very bright/only use the 4 years of power to fill their purse/trying to become somebody in power to fill their purse in 4 years as none of them asks a simple question: “Would you like to be driven to the airport by a driver drunk, high on heroin driver, a driver on heavy medication, or a smoker.?” (Also, which one of the 4 pays most tax to the government?)
    They’d have to use one of the first three, because the smoker is my driver.

    The simplest thing would be to end all the drug wars. End the war on pot and coke and opium. End the war on tobacco and alcohol. End the war on cheeseburgers and hot dogs and blueberry pie. Tell people they can do what the heck they like, as long as they take the consequences.
    Even though most people would screech “NOOOO”, I’d be in favour of it.
    It takes out the black market and the finger pointing and screeching “it’s your/xxx fault” would disappear.
    That would be a great start and quickly sift out the people who will not contribute much to the country by turning up to work high/drunk and late. Common sense would return and those who assume their responsibility to family etc. quickly will stay “sober” during the e.g. week. And, who cares if they have a drink and whatever in their free time? As long as they turn up fresh on Monday all is good.

  4. Darryl says:

    Divide and Rule is the oldest trick in the political book. Get and keep power by playing one group off against the other.
    I think the drug war should end but there are huge profits to be made by some when drugs are illegal and tobacco taxes high. The bigger the profits the bigger the bribes.
    And don’t forget the opportunities for empire building. More coppers, more prisons, bigger budgets, more excuses to monitor and micro manage the lives of others.

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