I Don’t Believe It

H/T Rose, I’m not sure I believe this:

Smoking ban 10 years on: share your memories and experiences

A decade since smoking bans came into force in the UK we would like to hear from readers on how the ban has affected them

When have they ever wanted to know what our experience was? When have they ever wanted to know what happened to us?

But by us, I mean us smokers.

Ten years have passed since venues across England moved their smokers outdoors and ensured people could work, drink and dine without passive inhalation.

Bans in Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales all preceded that of England, meaning that on 1 July 2007 all indoor UK venues went smoke free following recommendations put in place by the Health Act 2006.

We would like to hear your memories of the ban and how it has changed your life over the last decade.

Maybe you work in the hospitality industry or did so at the time and the ban affected your work or your business? Were you encouraged to quit smoking as the ban came into force? Were you one of many who reported a different “culture” among smokers forced into designated outdoor spaces whatever the weather? Did you agree or disagree with the ban at the time – and has your view changed? In light of further action such as the ban on smoking in cars with children, do you think the government is doing enough?

I think I know what’s going to happen. Tobacco Control will drum up an army of people to write in to say how they were ecstatic on 1 July 2007, and what a relief it was to stop getting lumps of tobacco smoke in their hair every time they went in a pub, and how their health has been constantly improving in leaps and bounds ever since, and their little Jimmy, who was incontinent and only about 18 inches high back then, is now over six foot tall, and has made at least three girls pregnant – all thanks to the smoking ban.

And that’s what the Guardian will publish. It’ll publish acres of testimonials of just how good things have been since smoking was banned. There’ll be pub landlords saying how they were “stunned” when all the non-smokers invaded their pubs the next day, and started ordering glasses of water, and singing Land of Hope and Glory, and dancing spontaneous jigs on the tables, and kicking their shoes off into the ceiling.

Something like that.

Because, as far as I can see, Tobacco Control remains in complete control of the mainstream media, and everything is censored, and every message massaged to conform to antismoking dogma. Its iron fist will suppress any and every dissenting voice, and promote all positive recollections of that awful day.

For what has changed over the past 10 years? The antismoking juggernaut still rolls on, with “plain” packaging, display bans, car smoking bans, ever-rising taxation, closing pubs, and all the rest. There’s no sign whatsoever that the political class has any idea of the social and economic and political catastrophe that followed in the wake of the smoking ban. All are oblivious. Completely oblivious. And oblivious is the way that Tobacco Control wants to keep them.

I’ll fill in their questionnaire (update: I now have). But my response won’t be published. It probably won’t even be read. So I’ll keep it brief.

I’ve given up on the mainstream media. And on the political classes. Apart from writing this blog, the only thing that I try to do these days is to bring excluded, reviled smokers together in my new online Smoky Drinky Bar for a while before it’s closed down due to the 138th-hand smoke spreading from it along the internet’s wires and killing babies in Khartoum and Tierra del Fuego.

The only thing I don’t understand is why they’re treating the 10th anniversary of the UK smoking ban as any sort of memorable event at all. The mainstream media treated the original occasion as a non-event. So why is the tenth anniversary of that non-event anything to remember? Nothing happened on 1 July 2007. It was just another day, wasn’t it?

Can anyone remember what happened on, say, 15 April 1912? Was there anything memorable about that date? Was it any sort of notable day or night to remember? Were the newspapers full of reports of some terrible catastrophe that day? Or did they treat it as a non-event, playing down its scale and significance, lest their snowflake children have nightmares?

1 July 2007 is the date of a catastrophe. It was a black day. But it was a catastrophe that was not reported in the Guardian or the Times or any other newspaper or TV channel. So why bring it up now?

And do you really have to wear Hi-Viz yellow smoking jackets these days outside the Miners Arms?

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20 Responses to I Don’t Believe It

  1. I don’t adam n eve it neither….but I held my nose (The Guardian , really? That’s the Daily Mail for capnophobes what are vegans) and VENTED some spleen. Even sent them a photo of me smoking in the hospital carpark *fist punches air* I am sooooooo RAD!

  2. Calling OZ Vapers and Liberty Lovers.. Dick Puddlecote’s blog is the bomb.

  3. buckothemoose says:

    I’ve filled it in too. They might choose to ignore us, but if we shout loud enough, they won’t be able to kid themselves that we don’t exist

  4. RdM says:

    A decade since smoking bans came into force in the UK we would like to hear from readers on how the ban has affected them

    While I haven’t had time to look into any of the links in the article, this seems to me to be most positive, deliciously neutral, and a great opportunity to give your most well researched and considered, firm yet courteous even if in the most extreme outrage responses…

    There have been many examples of calm even if ironic examples of complete deconstruction of TC’s arguments, assertions, submissions, propaganda, lies, well presented, here & elsewhere.

    It’s what’s needed, isn’t it? Well presented arguments, fresh evidence refuting old ‘evidence’.

    Many thousands, people writing in as they have done here, with why it is presently so wrong. (!)
    _

    As for all of the almost all remaining doom-laden, negative outlook paragraphs (until the end) –
    I feel I have to ask;- are you getting enough B vitamins Frank? ;=}) Such a grim outlook! :-)

    And do you really have to wear Hi-Viz yellow smoking jackets these days outside the Miners Arms?

    Bit uv a laff, innit?

    Hideous!

    • Frank Davis says:

      What are the symptoms of vitamin B deficiency?

      • beobrigitte says:

        Which Vit B? The best known ones:
        As for B12:
        If you have vitamin B12 deficiency, you could become anemic. A mild deficiency may cause no symptoms. But if untreated, it may lead to symptoms such as:

        Weakness, tiredness, or lightheadedness
        Heart palpitations and shortness of breath
        Pale skin
        A smooth tongue
        Constipation, diarrhea, loss of appetite, or gas
        Nerve problems like numbness or tingling, muscle weakness, and problems walking
        Vision loss
        Mental problems like depression, memory loss, or behavioral changes

        Vit B6:
        A vitamin B6 deficiency can overtime cause symptoms including:

        Changes in mood, such as irritability, anxiety and depression.
        Confusion.
        Muscle pains.
        Low energy, or fatigue.
        Worsening of PMS symptoms.
        Worsening symptoms of anemia.

        Vit B3

        Niacin Deficiency Symptoms

        Symptoms of mild niacin deficiency include:

        indigestion
        fatigue
        canker sores
        vomiting
        depression

        Severe deficiency, called pellagra, can cause symptoms related to the skin, digestive system, and nervous system. They include:

        thick, scaly pigmented rash on skin exposed to sunlight
        swollen mouth and bright red tongue
        vomiting and diarrhea
        headache
        apathy
        fatigue
        depression
        disorientation
        memory loss

        If not treated, pellagra can lead to death. Pellagra can be reversible with niacin supplementation prescribed under the supervision by your doctor.

        Hope this was useful :)

        • Didn’t Legiron ‘discover’ a while back that the evil Nicotine is infact a precursor/previtamin to Niacin or something *vaguely recalls* ?
          There were scare stories in the US press back around WW2 time about ‘tobacco added to bread’ I think when the US tried to tackle the pellagra endemic in the the Appalachian (surely the ‘Norfolk’ of the US but with lumps).

        • Rose says:

          BD

          Legiron stepped in to adjudicate on a battle I was having with another commenter on a previous post, I’d set out my evidence to prove that nicotine turned to nicotinic acid/niacin when burned and that they’d changed the name in 1942 to disguise that fact,

          Legiron
          “I think I’ve set the matter to rest in today’s post…”
          https://underdogsbiteupwards.wordpress.com/2013/12/16/whats-smoke-for-the-goose/

          Nicotine vs. nicotinic acid (niacin).
          December 17, 2013
          https://underdogsbiteupwards.wordpress.com/2013/12/17/nicotine-vs-nicotinic-acid-niacin/

          My opponent surrendered immediately.

          You’ll find another reference to scare stories about tobacco in bread in the article from the Journal of the American Medical Association, I posted in the comments on Nicotine vs. nicotinic acid (niacin)., plus a lot more.

        • RdM says:

          Thanks for that Rose;- I had’t set any follow-up alerts for a while, and was just looking through the monthly archives here on a strong hunch or slight sense that I’d been missing something.

          More yet to find again.

  5. junican says:

    I too have completed the form. I’ve kept it very simple – just describing the drifting away of smokers from the pub as the months past; the creation of loneliness, discord, fear, pain; the debunking of SHS danger; the iniquities of the TC industry.
    Yes, we have to take the opportunity to complain whilst we have it. It will be interesting to see how fairly the Guardian presents the results.

  6. margo says:

    I filled that in, too. I doubt that they’ll publish any of our comments.

  7. Smoking Lamp says:

    It is likely they will ignore smokers’ perspectives (except perhaps for a token response). The media reflects elite opinion (even when they claim to support opposing views they represent factions within the elite). That said, it is important to dissent at every opportunity. The mere fact that they are ‘celebrating’ the anniversary shows that their support is fragile despite their claims of victory. After all tobacco control knows they pulled a fast one when they imposed the ban through their ‘confidence trick/, They know there is no real risk from second hand smoke, and they know the extent of there manipulation of political processes. The foundation so if tobacco control are crumbling albeit slowly. That’s why dissent is critical.

  8. waltc says:

    Done. I made up an identity and a false gmail address, hoping that gmail is valid in England.

  9. beobrigitte says:

    I think I know what’s going to happen. Tobacco Control will drum up an army of people to write in to say how they were ecstatic on 1 July 2007, and what a relief it was to stop getting lumps of tobacco smoke in their hair every time they went in a pub, and how their health has been constantly improving in leaps and bounds ever since, and their little Jimmy, who was incontinent and only about 18 inches high back then, is now over six foot tall, and has made at least three girls pregnant – all thanks to the smoking ban.
    I, too, expect something similar in the media on Saturday. It’s such a pity I am very busy with the first scheduled delivery for my kitchen. And later I’m in smokydrinky.

    (Lets just hope little Jimmy is able to pay for the offspring he helped to create whilst ASH members continue to be orgasmic about expanding the smoking ban so I wouldn’t be surprised if they light up a cigarette after… :))

  10. Joe L. says:

    And do you really have to wear Hi-Viz yellow smoking jackets these days outside the Miners Arms?

    Seeing as pretty soon the only places where we will be allowed to smoke will be in the middle of busy streets, we may all need Hi-Viz yellow jackets to avoid being hit by cars.

    Then again, I’m sure Tobacco Control would be happy if smokers were all forced to wear bright, reflective jackets, much like the Nazis made Jews wear the Yellow Badge.

  11. Some other Tom says:

    I started my own room on appear.in – I logged into the smokydrinkybar and no one was in there – but as the process of setting up my own account I got to create one… it’s called the fantastic-smoking-lounge Free pub? Why not!? Smoking isn’t only permitted – it’s encouraged!

    I will decorate it soon and hopefully see some of you there.

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