Beaten or Robbed: Which Would You Prefer?

Iro Cyzane on Facebook:

”Just over a week after the terror group was flushed out of his hometown, Mr. Saleh was making a visual statement. He wanted people to know that he’s a smoker, a crime that until recently would have earned him 20 lashes.”

Not that I would go as far as comparing the terrorists to our western busybullies, but I too hold my cigarette with pride as a symbol of resistance to the bullying.

Is there really very much difference between their bullies and our bullies? If you’re a Syrian smoker, you get 20 lashes. If you’re a New York smoker, you get another $3 slapped on a pack of cigarettes. And we all know that NYC antismokers would like to give smokers 20 lashes.

Syrian smokers are beaten. New York smokers are robbed. Which would you prefer?

NY Daily News:

Another of the mayor’s policies was met with disdain from the next caller — his plan to increase the minimum price for a pack of cigarettes to $13. A caller named Trey argued cheeseburgers and doughnuts are just as harmful, and that de Blasio was turning into Mayor Michael Bloomberg — making people “miserable” by punishing them for their choices.

“If the only joy in a person’s life is smoking a cigarette when they get home from work after a hard day, who are you to take that away?” the caller asked.

The mayor argued he sees it as a question of public health rather than individual rights.

“Taxpayers end up having to deal with these crises,” he said.

Bill de Blasio, mayor of New York City, is a prince of thieves. His attitude to smokers is the same attitude as a pickpocket to other people’s wallets: “That money belongs to me, not them.”

“Look,” he might add, “These people don’t know what to do with their money. That’s quite obvious, because they’re wasting it on cigarettes. They may as well be throwing it in the Hudson river. In fact, they may as well be throwing themselves in the Hudson river. The very least we can do is grab some of that money back, and spend it on shelters for the homeless or something, before it all floats off down the river. Don’t you agree?”

Of course the mayor hides behind public health. Public health trumps everything else. It trumps joy. It trumps all rights. It trumps morality. It trumps compassion and consideration. It trumps honour and duty. It trumps justice. Once you pick up the Public Health card from the Community Chest, it’s as good as a Get Out Of Jail Free card. Which is why a pickpocket like de Blasio is running NYC. He’s beyond the law. He’s beyond prison. He’s beyond justice. All that stuff got torn up by Public Health.

He learnt it all from Michael Bloomberg, the previous NYC pickpocket.

And it’s always a Crisis. And in a crisis, the old rules and customs and constraints go out the window.

It’s like the WHO’s global smoking “epidemic”. Once you call it an epidemic – like the Black Death -, you make it into a crisis. Something has to be done about it, right now, this minute. And you demand emergency powers. And you maintain the state of emergency indefinitely. And during the state of emergency, all the old rules and regulations are suspended, and replaced by arbitrary new ones.

Global Warming is another manufactured crisis. Particularly if it’s called Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming. A catastrophe! Declare a state of emergency!

None of these things are crises at all, of course. They’re all conjured out of thin air, quite literally.

And now everyone’s worrying about WW3 breaking out. And, of course, that’s yet another non-crisis crisis on top of all the other non-crisis crises.

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22 Responses to Beaten or Robbed: Which Would You Prefer?

  1. Timothy Goodacre says:

    They are nasty interfering fuckwits who need to be told firmly to fuck right off.

  2. RdM says:

    Global Warming is another manufactured crisis. Particularly if it’s called Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming. A catastrophe! Declare a state of emergency!

    I was disappointed to hear on RNZ news a few days ago all the political parties here in NZ, including the supposedly most “conservative” National party who are in government, lining up to denounce the Scott Pruitt appointment, Trump statements, & etc.

    The National Party resisted and decried the smoking bans and ‘single issue pressure groups’ here initially, especially when in opposition, but when in power and needing a coalition partner in the Maori party, suddenly changed their tune, and passed bills and slammed extra taxes on smokers, evidently part of a deal, and in thrall to embedded MOH anti-tobacco zealot ‘experts’.

    So I was pleasantly surprised to see that there was a resistance climate blog yesterday, although beset by a warmist troll, a ‘Dennis N Horne’, here in NZ, obviously with a little legal history.

    And I got mad enough after a few drinks to post the last comment here, so far unanswered:

    http://www.climateconversation.org.nz/2017/03/if-you-can-prove-dangerous-man-made-global-warming-you-win-5000/#comment-1532815

    You’d have to scroll up to see the context, home page & etc.
    But I hope the first couple of links in my comment there might be worth reading.

    Apart from that, I thought the ‘March for Science’ a completely ‘influenced’ campaign, and one must ask: who, or what nation-state, or ideology, would be behind this?

    • RdM says:

      MOH = Ministry Of Health

    • Fredrik Eich says:

      In 1980 Margret Thatcher became alarmed that the West Germans were importing gas from Russia. Russia wants to be an energy superpower (and why not):
      Now switch to Moscow, August 2005. Sergei Lavrov, the Russian foreign minister, is kindly receiving visitors and answering questions. I ask him whether Russia will use its vast energy exports as a diplomatic weapon. He answers: “Of course.” – David Howell

      https://www.ft.com/content/282ff00c-7cc6-11da-936a-0000779e2340#ixzz4f4x5kBZU

      The IPCC was set up with in 1988 , with massive help from Thatcher and I wonder how much energy security was on Thatchers mind when she pushed the the global warming agenda because clearly if the west is relient on alternative sources of energy then this diplomatic weapon is useless.

      The EU now relys on ~40% of it’s gas supplies from Russia.

      https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d7/Major_russian_gas_pipelines_to_europe.png/270px-Major_russian_gas_pipelines_to_europe.png

      • Fredrik Eich says:

        In 1980 Margret Thatcher became alarmed that the West Germans were importing gas from Russia. Russia wants to be an energy superpower (and why not):
        Now switch to Moscow, August 2005. Sergei Lavrov, the Russian foreign minister, is kindly receiving visitors and answering questions. I ask him whether Russia will use its vast energy exports as a diplomatic weapon. He answers: “Of course.” – David Howell

        https://www.ft.com/content/282ff00c-7cc6-11da-936a-0000779e2340#ixzz4f4x5kBZU

        The IPCC was set up with in 1988 , with massive help from Thatcher and I wonder how much energy security was on Thatchers mind when she pushed the the global warming agenda because clearly if the west is relient on alternative sources of energy then this diplomatic weapon is useless.

        The EU now relys on ~40% of it’s gas supplies from Russia.

    • nisakiman says:

      When I saw the headline ‘March for Science’, and the subtext about people protesting about politics and ideology influencing science, I thought “Wow! People are seeing through the bullshit!”. Then I clicked on the article, and the first thing I read was that Michael Mann – he of the much debunked ‘hockey-stick graph’ – was one of the organisers. Oh dear.

      However, I suppose you have to admire their gall for trying to shift their toadying corruption onto the heads of the real scientists. Their brazen hypocrisy really is quite jaw-dropping.

    • Manfred says:

      Perhaps it is something to do with being a socialist country with the geopolitical weight of a pimple on a gnats bottom, who knows? They can’t all love Soros? Can they? All political parties aided and abetted by the NZ Lefist MSM reflexively deep throat the eco-Marxist globalism cult fueled by Soros, envisioned by Strong. Local authorities in NZ appear well engaged with the implementation of UN Sustainable Development Agenda and Urban Agenda Habitat III. The execution of ‘public’ health through ‘personal’ regulation is but one hall mark as we all know.

      Anti-smoking zealotry and policy implementation is an utterly superb societal red-flag, a freedom bio-marker if you will … terminal cancer until proved otherwise. The NZ populous while seemingly compliant can be quite underhand, taking passive aggression to dizzying heights, so it is not readily identifiable when people have had enough of being told what to do and act to excise the cancer. New Zealanders’ appear to prefer finding cunning ways around bureaucratic obstacles, rather than necessarily addressing them in full frontal push-back (unless it involves rugby and alcohol and a substantial majority). If NZ is to save its soul, it seems to me that real push-back is required, a new political force free from the UN infection of an imposed identity.

  3. Lisboeta says:

    If it’d really reached the point where those were the only two alternatives, I’d opt for robbed.

  4. Rose says:

    We’ve already accepted being robbed in preference to getting locked up.

    You’ll be shocked by how little cigarettes, beer and petrol cost 15 years ago
    22 APR 2017

    “If you drive, smoke or drink alcohol, modern life can be expensive.
    The price of a pack of 20 cigarettes from a premium brand is now more than £10 after a 35p tax hike in the last budget.
    A pint will set you back around £3.50, and in top city centre bars it can cost much more.
    Meanwhile, a litre of unleaded petrol will cost you approximately £1.18.

    But it wasn’t always this way. The ECHO checked the Government’s Retail Prices Index to see how much these things cost 15, 20, 25 and 30 years ago.”

    1997

    “Pint of bitter (draught): £1.63
    Pint of lager (draught): £1.81
    20 Cigarettes: £2.94
    Average cost per litre for petrol: 64p”
    http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/youll-shocked-how-little-cigarettes-12922111

    Anyway, they already threatened us with being beaten to a jelly by an invisible man, under New Labour’s version of the NHS in 2009.

    I’ll break the link out of decency.

    “NHS Birmingham East and North – Fight Back anti-smoking PSA – (2009) :60 (UK)
    Rankin & Chris directed this PSA for ad agency Dr Foster. The result is a blood splattering fight with the invisible man.”
    http: //adland.tv/commercials/nhs-birmingham-east-and-north-fight-back-anti-smoking-psa-2009-60-uk

  5. garyk30 says:

    “Beaten or Robbed: Which Would You Prefer?”

    Of course, being left alone is not an option.

  6. smokingscot says:

    O/T
    Not official yet, but it seems Le Pen has made it through to round 2 of the presidential election.

    Macron is about 24% and he wants a hard Brexit.

    Le Pen’s about 22% and wants a soft Brexit.

    http://www.france24.com/en/tag/french-presidential-elections-2017/

    The political classes are hugely pissed off at this, and the whole lot of them (who got royally thumped today) have told their supporters to vote for Macron.

    Odd on account Macron’s stood on an anti establishment platform who wants to take away all them cosy labour laws (a sort of dilute Thatcher), so he’s not the one a whole load of people will vote for.

    It’s unlikely – but 100% not a forgone conclusion – that Ms. Le Pen will win in 2 weeks time.

    Turnout was a tad under 70%.

  7. Smoking Lamp says:

    Beaten or robbed? Neither; both are inherently violent crimes. Indeed they are often closely related as strictly speaking robbery is taking the property of another through use of force or fear.

    The NYC scenario mentioned above wherein De Blasio is seeking draconian antismoking (and anti-vaping) measures including excessive taxes and increased outdoor bans use s a comprehensive strategy of abuse. Of course he argues that public health trumps liberties. Which utterly false when you consider tobacco control’s foundation of lies and manipulation. Since there is essentially no threat to others from second hand smoke or vaping the health argument is a red herring.

  8. waltc says:

    They’re pulling out all the stops. The bills, widely supported by the City Council which has to vote this stuff in includes: a ban on smoking in all city-funded rent-subsidized housing; a demand that the owners of all free market housing annually state the building’ s “policy” on smoking and include said policy in every new and renewed lease or, in the case of condos, sales agreement so if the “policy” is no smoking, renters, even owners, can be evicted at the drop of an ash: a ban on both smoking and vaping in cars with children under 8; a ban on selling cigarettes in any drug store that also has a pharmacy; a limit on the number of licenses for selling cigarettes, the number to be decreased ovr time: licences required to sell e-cigarettes, to be eternally limited to the number of stores that apply for such licenses once the law is passed. And the, of course, the minimum pricing.

    The timing is interesting, too. DiBlasio –having just narrowly dodged serious charges of corruption—will be up for re-election. As notably bad a mayor as he’s been, no Democrat seems willing to challenge him in a primary and no Republican has a hat in the ring. Tho he may, in fact, lose some votes among smokers, especially minorities who’ll most feel the sting, , he’s still most likely to get another term with perhaps one of the smallest voter turnouts in the city’s history.

    • RdM says:

      That’s appalling, Walt.

      It’s interesting to note how Councils work differently, how much power they have, across the world, US, UK, other Commonwealth countries, and then there’s the federal & state systems like the USA & Australia, but doesn’t the mayor of NYC have to go to a council for votes on such a move, or is he a min-despot?

      I think that Tobacco Control have deliberately focused on councils all across the world, across the differences, in a sort of sovietisation, a deliberate thrumming up of power within councils, each to be led to lead by example to others, then nationally taken.

      Mind you, in Auckland NZ a few years ago plastered all over the news was that Auckland City Council had voted for smoking bans in public places, to be implemented progressively over a few years, but when I drilled down into the council minutes, not easy to find, I found that at that last voting meeting, only 14 councilors were present.

      7 voted for, 7 against.

      A really democratic view or act then IMHO would then be that the Chairperson sends it back for further discussion, analysis, & etc. But no. The chairperson, in this case a former Labour Party Health spokeswoman (failed to regain her parliamentary seat, and only a few months later voted out of the Council as well, in the council elections) – according to Council rules, was able to cast a casting vote.

      You can guess which way it went.

      So, (proposals to ban smoking outside all bars cafes delis restaurants on council owned footpaths included), a business-destroying proposition if there ever was one, this legislation still hangs over Auckland, businesses likely unaware, all on ONE casting vote by a failed and therefore unpopular government & later council minister “chairperson”.

      In NZ, in a business, among shareholders, a chairman cannot make a casting vote.

      (This is my first time noting, writing this out, poor practice; please excuse the OT!)

      But this might be more useful for you in the USA (like YouGov in the UK?)

      https://www.whitehouse.gov/reorganizing-the-executive-branch
      On March 13th, President Donald J. Trump signed an Executive Order that will make the Federal government more efficient, effective, and accountable to you, the American people. This Executive Order directs the Director of the Office of Management and Budget to present the President with a plan that recommends ways to reorganize the executive branch and eliminate unnecessary agencies.

      President Trump wants to hear your ideas and suggestions on how the government can be better organized to work for the American people.

      Share your ideas below by June 12th!

      I haven’t drilled down to see if or where you can actually suggest detail, but for what it’s worth…

  9. Rose says:

    Good news.

    Medical marijuana prescribed to 11-year-old boy on the NHS in first case of its kind
    23 April 2017

    “Medicinal marijuana has been prescribed on the NHS to an 11-year-old boy in what is believed to be the first case of its kind.
    Billy Caldwell had been travelling to the USA to get the medication for help to treat his epilepsy which at its worst saw him suffer up to 100 life-threatening fits a day.
    But when his supply of cannabis oil was about to run out and he was unable to make the return trip to Los Angeles, his mother Charlotte took him to see his local GP in desperation.

    Dr Brendan O’Hare, realising the “unique and unusual” situation, opted to prescribe him the CBD oil – a derivative of cannabis containing the component cannabidiol which under MHRA guidelines doctors are allowed to prescribe.
    It doesn’t contain tetrahydrocannabinol – or THC – which is the psychoactive component of cannabis and is illegal in the UK under the Misuse of Drugs Act.

    As a result of the prescription, which could open doors to all patients and GPs who believe in the virtues of medicinal marijuana, Ms Caldwell, who is 49 and is Billy’s full time carer, was able to collect it from her local pharmacy.”
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/23/medicalmarijuana-prescribed-11-year-old-nhs-first-time/

    I once saw a programme about the miraculous improvements that marijuana could make to the conditions of ill people, which changed my view on the subject completely. I had previously considered it as purely recreational and not something I was interested in.

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