Globalists vs Nationalists: How The Elites Stole My Pub

When Trump moved last Friday to deny entry into the USA to people from a half dozen Middle Eastern and African countries, it promptly got called a “Muslim ban” by the left wing US mainstream media. That’s a distortion, but they’re saying it anyway. I get the impression that whatever Trump does, it’s going to be described as something it isn’t. He appointed a new Supreme Court Justice last night, and I’ve not read much about it, but I expect to soon be hearing that the man worked as an SS officer in the Treblinka death camp, or worse.

Hillary Clinton sent a message of support to protesters against the ‘Muslim ban’. As did Barack Obama. So the high echelons of the Democratic party haven’t been distancing themselves from the protests and violence at all.

It seems that Democrats still can’t accept that they lost the election. Are they going to carry on protesting indefinitely?

Yesterday I read:


George Soros has been repeatedly accused of using his considerable wealth to pay anti-Trump protesters to march and demonstrate, and thereby keep the pot boiling.  Is Trump now moving to have him arrested?

I’ve only read one report that this might happen. So it might be a bit of the ‘fake’ news we’re all being told about.

But whether it’s true or not, Trump might well consider taking such action. And if he did that, he might also think of moving against Clinton and Obama. After all, there are lots of people with “Hillary For Prison” T-shirts, and the questions about Obama’s legitimacy as president never quite went away. And Trump has maintained FBI chief James Comey in place, with his ongoing investigation into Clinton’s emails. If the disturbances continue, might we see Hillary Clinton indicted, and an investigation of Obama’s parentage opened?

If Trump doesn’t think much of Soros, Soros doesn’t think much of Trump. BBC:

“An imposter, a [political] conman and a would-be dictator,” is the verdict of billionaire investor George Soros on Donald Trump.

Speaking to a packed audience at his annual dinner at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Mr Soros said he was confident Mr Trump’s powers would be limited by Congress.

“He won’t be able to get away [with being a dictator],” he added.

Ultimately, Mr Soros said he expected Mr Trump to fail.

I’m beginning to wonder if the idea is to turn Trump into the sort of dictator that I’m sure he doesn’t want to be, simply by creating and maintaining enough civil disturbance to eventually force him to act.

The underlying political conflict here seems to be between on one hand the hitherto ascendant Globalists (Soros, Obama, Clinton, and many more) and on the other hand a resurgent popular Nationalism (Trump et al). The Globalists are champions of a global world order, run by supranational organisations like the UN, EU, etc, in which there is free movement of labour, and in which sovereign states have largely ceased to exist. And resurgent Nationalism is a growing powerful reaction against this dissolution of national identities. The political class, more or less everywhere, seems to have bought into the globalist programme. But ordinary people, more or less everywhere, seem to be increasingly rejecting it. So it’s the people versus the political class, with the likes of Trump (with his ‘Muslim ban’) firmly on the people’s side. And Trump is quite likely to soon be joined by a number of other populist leaders.

I suppose the problem for world leaders (e.g. Theresa May, Angela Merkel, and others) is to guess which way things are likely to go. Is Trump going to be a short-lived political phenomenon? Or is he the herald of much more to come?

Soros himself seems to be wondering what’s going on:

The billionaire now says “the only explanation I can find (for the electorate’s rejection of globalization/liberalism) is that elected leaders failed to meet voters’ legitimate expectations and aspirations and that this failure led electorates to become disenchanted with the prevailing versions of democracy and capitalism. Quite simply, many people felt that the elites had stolen their democracy.”

That seems about right to me.

But I could be much more specific than that. This particular Brexit voter had what he felt was a “legitimate expectation and aspiration” to be able to sit in a pub, and drink a beer, and smoke a cigarette. He became deeply “disenchanted with the prevailing version of democracy” in the UK when it imposed a smoking ban upon him, and prevented him from doing this. Quite simply, he felt that not only that “the elites had stolen his democracy,” but they had also stolen his pub. “Democracy” is a rather abstract sort of notion. But a pub is a very real thing – often almost a home away from home -, and its theft is experienced as a profound and personal loss.

But, in the world of global politics, in which the eyes of all concerned are fixed upon high matters of ‘democracy’, ‘nationhood’ and so on, nobody pays any attention whatsoever to such inconsequential and unimportant things as pubs.

PETITION PARLIAMENT: Donald Trump should make a State Visit to the UK.



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62 Responses to Globalists vs Nationalists: How The Elites Stole My Pub

  1. Harleyrider1978 says:

    Spot on frank

  2. But a pub is a very real thing – often almost a home away from home
    Indeed, and let us not forget all the livelihoods stolen at the same time. Not just in the pub trade either. I have met several smokers over the years since 2007 who have ‘confessed’ to me over the length of a few shared smoking sessions that they had intentionally become unemployed and were intent on spending the rest of their working lives ‘bleeding the beast’ ie taking the State for every penny they could get. The UK’s version of the Nuremberg Laws (“Nottingham Laws” perhaps? In memory of the last cigarette factory to close in the UK?) had , as they see it, ‘stolen’ their jobs, banished them from their office or shop or from their own business’ premises. These weren’t ‘scroungers’ nor ‘work shy’ these were people who had, often, worked very hard in their jobs or careers.
    Interestingly enough they tended to view those smoker former-colleagues who now stand outside, those fully paid up members of The Legion Of The Damned, as turncoats and traitors. Not sure I would go that far, many people are too scared to put everything on the line on a point of principle…it takes a brave man to say ‘NO. Not with me. Colour me gone.’ when there is a mortgage to pay, school fees and Jessica’s pony’s vet bills. Although several also ‘confessed’ they were a damn sight better off, or no worse off at least, on the dole….and we’re not just talking McJobber’s here, some had been pulling in respectable salaries.

      • Perhaps (i’m nothing like as well read as you obviously are) . I only know of Ayn Rand cos she’s mentioned in an S&G song :”I been Ayn Randed, nearly branded
        Communist, ’cause I’m left-handed.” (A Simple Desultory Philippic).
        I was thinking more in terms of the outer left wing of Mormonism/FLDS , Jeffs…I believe coined the phrase ‘bleed the beast’.
        Smokers have to make a stand where they can…usually outside in the rain. If THEY whack obscene levels of duty on smokes, we have a duty, a god given duty, not to buy from THEM if it can possibly be avoided. Pubs told us they didn’t want our custom…well good luck with that one Mine Host-see you down the Job Centre. The British Government has said they don’t want tobacco companies doing business in the UK, so smokers should go out of their way not to buy British goods. etc etc etc

        • Tony says:

          I don’t really know much about Ayn Rand either. But a few years ago I began to notice that many Libertarians were big fans, particularly of her novel ‘Atlas Shrugged’, so I read it. I thought it quite an entertaining mixture of dystopian and utopian visions but very long at over 1,000 pages. But I think the concept of a Galtian strike is a valid and highly relevant response to today’s oppression.
          I’ve probably upset lots of Libertarians now. (:

  3. Clicky says:

    • beobrigitte says:

      If plain packaging has been a “success” why are new initiatives in tobacco control “urgently needed”?
      (Eagerly awaiting tobacco control’s answer!)

      • beobrigitte says:

        Reform through endgame strategies and charismatic ideas

        The tobacco endgame concept moves thinking away from the mere control of tobacco towards plans for ending the tobacco pandemic, and foresees a tobacco-free future. The unifying term “endgame” includes those policy approaches which orient researchers and decision-makers toward this goal.

        WHO Director-General Margaret Chan championed endgame strategies in 2013 and urged a focus on precision, impeccable science, feasibility and realism.
        Is it the same Margaret Chan who gave the secret wining and dining in Moscow to decide what more insults could be handed out to smokers/vapers priority over a raging Ebola epidemic in 2014?

        • “Is it the same Margaret Chan who gave the secret wining and dining in Moscow to decide what more insults could be handed out to smokers/vapers priority over a raging Ebola epidemic in 2014?”

          Yep. After all, smoking is FAR more of an emergency than silly little nuisances like Ebola!

  4. Fredrik Eich says:


    That site, conservative daily post, that the quote comes from is reported to be a fake news site

  5. Steven says:

    There has been media attention on loneliness recently.What has the smoking ban done to address this problem.What it have done is to accentuate the problem.Think of all the lonely and elderly people who have smoked all their lives.Previously they would go down to the local pub or working men’s club to alleviate their loneliness.As they now are not prepared to sit outside in the freezing weather they stay at home,even becoming more isolated.This ban lacks humility and compassion.

  6. Timothy Goodacre says:

    Of course Soros has no idea of the pleasure of going to the pub and enjoying a beer and a cigarette in like minded company which was stolen from us and i very much resent. As the years go by since 2007 i get steadily crosser with these arseholes who have stolen the pleasure i used to enjoy so much.

  7. garyk30 says:

    Control of our lives and our freedom of choice just keeps slipping farther and farther away.

    Issues that could and should be decided at the local level, where one can have a direct input, have now moved to the federal level and soon, if the elitists have their way, will be decided by very far away bureaucrats that have no interest in your opinions.

    Tobacco/ smoking policies are a very good example of this.

    It should be up to the people of a community to decide what they want to do about smoking; not the national govt, and definitely not an international bunch of smart- asses.

  8. nisakiman says:

    There seems to be a concerted effort by the MSM to suppress any negative reaction to TCs efforts, judging by what’s happened to my comments.

    I posted a comment on this story about doubling the size of ‘don’t drink when pregnant’ warnings on wine bottles, pointing out that this was the same slippery slope that tobacco started on. That was a week ago, so I don’t have access to my comment anymore so can’t paste it here, but it was just giving the facts with a short history of how we went from banning smoking on short-haul flights to global bans and plain packaging with medico-porn plastered all over it, by small, incremental steps.

    My comment was deleted within the hour.

    Today, I replied to a comment on this article where a single commenter had said that the problem with pubs was that the beer was too expensive compared to supermarkets, and gov needed to tax retail sales higher. I’ll paste my reply below.

    That comment was also deleted by the time I looked a few hours later.

    @Howard Osborn
    It has very little to do with price differentials – supermarkets were always much cheaper beer outlets than pubs. People went to pubs to socialise.
    The reason more than 16,000 pubs have closed in the past decade is because their best customers were told they were no longer welcome.

    Prior to 2006, something in the region of 60% of regular pub goers were smokers. When they were told they could no longer enjoy a cigarette with their pint, and had to go outside in the cold and the rain if they wanted a smoke, naturally enough they just stopped using the pub. As did many of their non-smoking friends. Why pay a premium for your beer if you are going to be treated like a pariah? Better to buy it from the supermarket and enjoy it in the comfort and warmth of your own home.

    It appears that the DT will no longer allow any comments that don’t follow TC’s narrative to the letter. It really is an example of how the MSM cannot be trusted or taken seriously any more

    • Smoking Lamp says:

      Censorship and suppression of dissent is essential if you are going to enforce a policy based on lies. That’s why we need to not only resist steps toward prohibition but use social media to voice our dissent… Tobacco control must be destroyed!

    • Rose says:

      It’s probably more to do with advertising revenue, Nisakiman.
      This week. Cancer Research UK seem to be constantly advertising on Sky News asking for donations, every ad break it’s one in two of you will get cancer so give us some money interspersed with adverts for life insurance so that you can pay for your own funeral,or text hat/blanket/water from various charities, you need nerves of steel to watch 24 rolling news to keep abreast of what’s happening in America. I like to hear what they really said not carefully edited snippets.

    • Nisaki, you’re not the only one to meet the Telegraph’s version of Winston Smith.

      Here’s a note from Stephen Brown to me from 2014:

      Michael, I’m so peed-off with the deletion of sensible commentary here that I’ve forgotten what vituperative comments I made about this ridiculous article.

      and a short-lived exchange I had on the Telegraph in 2013 with an “Angus”:

      Angus2100 15 hours ago
      Yep, deniers are pathetic. Science always welcomes legitimate skeptics, but rightfully has zero time for those who want to dismiss scientific evidence. Kudos to the media outlets which have now banned denialists from commenting on their articles.

      Michael J. McFadden 10 hours ago
      Yes Angus, censorship is always preferable to open discussion, eh?


      It’s always good to remember to hit Control-C(opy) before hitting submit at such sites, or even to just grab a screenshot so your “baby” isn’t just thrown in the trash.

      – MJM

      • nisakiman says:

        It’s always good to remember to hit Control-C(opy) before hitting submit at such sites, or even to just grab a screenshot so your “baby” isn’t just thrown in the trash.

        I use an add-on called ‘Textarea Cache’, which automatically saves all my comments, but it only stores them for about a week, so beyond that I lose them. I’d forgotten about Ctrl-C. I’ll have to set up a file to keep some of my comments that I feel are worth keeping.

        And yes, I quite often come across people like ‘Angus’ in comments threads. They are so in thrall to the dogma that they will flatly refuse to countenance incontrovertible fact if it contradicts their belief. Your response was a good one – I’ll shamelessly plagiarise it next time I come across an ‘Angus’! :)

  9. prog says:

    Very interesting…..

    e.g. “Statcheck is a good example of what is now possible,” he said. The top priority, for Hartgerink, is something much more grave than correcting simple statistical miscalculations. He is now proposing to deploy a similar program that will uncover fake or manipulated results – which he believes are far more prevalent than most scientists would like to admit.’

    • Tony says:

      Be fun to run Doll’s British Doctors study results through that.

      • Frank Davis says:

        And the Doll and Hill London Hospitals study.

        In fact, all antismoking research. And all ‘health’ studies.

        And maybe climate research too.

        • Tony says:

          Yes indeed, all of them. But especially the Doctors Study because no potential critic has ever been allowed access to the raw data. I think the partial data that Fisher managed to obtain was from the earlier Hospital study. But in any case the vast majority of the Doctors data was gathered after Fisher’s death.

          The fact that over 600 lifelong smokers died and then came back to life again suggests to me that the whole data set is a bit suspect to put it mildly.

        • Tony says:

          BTW Frank, have you ever thought about making the comments on your blog searchable? It would make your blog into a vast research resource.

          I think there are some WordPress plugins available but I’ve no idea if they’re any good.
          Please don’t risk damaging anything just because of a stupid suggestion from me.

        • Frank Davis says:

          As the editor I can search the comments, and regularly do.

          A quick Google search turned up this:

          You guys are generating an amazing amount of feedback on your blogs. Matt mentioned in the April Wrap-Up that there were 8.6 million comments! Comments are flying in every second of the day.

          And have you ever had one of those blog posts that was good, but the real action was in the comments? The blog post is only half the story, it’s the feedback from everyone else that fills in the rest. To make it easier to find the second half of these stories we’ve added comment search to search.

          Select the comments options from the search page and we’ll hunt through the millions of comments that have been added to blogs to find what you are looking for. To reduce the comment inferiority complex you get many of the same features and options as post search: sorting by relevance (the default) or most recent, limit results by blog (like and an easy way to subscribe to new matches via an RSS feed ( the Follow this search via RSS link at the bottom of the sidebar).

          I couldn’t manage to get it to search a single website. Seems like it searches all WordPress.

        • Rose says:

          Tony, Frank’s blog is already searchable, I use it several times a day as an archive.

          Last time was 3 hours ago for a comment on another blog.

          Search – Saliva – Nicotinic Acid – Frank Davis

          Nicotinic acid (niacin)
          “In other words, we analyzed the saliva, which would have otherwise been swallowed. No nicotinic Acid occurred in the smoker’s saliva before smoking”


          Solanesol: a review of its resources, derivatives, bioactivities, medicinal applications, and biosynthesis

          “Solanesol is widely used in the pharmaceutical industry as an intermediate for the synthesis of ubiquinone drugs, such as coenzyme Q10 and vitamin K2. Solanesol possesses antibacterial, antifungal, antiviral, anticancer, anti-inflammatory, and anti-ulcer activities, and solanesol derivatives also have anti-oxidant and antitumour activities, in addition to other bioactivities”

          It’s quite invaluable.

        • Frank Davis says:

          Rose, how are you doing these searches? Using the search in the right margin, or something else?

        • Tony says:

          Rose, I second Frank’s query. You never cease to amaze.

          Meanwhile, as a mere mortal, I just googled ‘WordPress plugin search comments’ which threw up loads of hits.This was the first one:

          But I’ve no idea if it any good or even if it is destructive.

        • Frank Davis says:

          I don’t use, but instead

      • Rose says:

        I type you into google as the final search term, Frank. : )

        • Rose says:

          “consenting adults” godber “frank davis”

          About 55 results (0.61 seconds)
          Search Results

          A Ticking Time Bomb | Frank Davis
          https: //
          25 Jan 2014 – First Sir George Godber: “Godber recollected that he had said in 1962 to … I want to see it reduced to an activity of consenting adults in private.

          Subrational Motivations | Frank Davis
          https: //
          21 Dec 2013 – Godber – “a relatively few addicts still use cigarettes, but only in private at most in the company of consenting adults”; “If we start with the view …

          Complete Disbeliever | Frank Davis
          https: //
          Posted on March 2, 2016 by Frank Davis ….. replied: “No, but I want to see it reduced to an activity of consenting adults in private.” …. The Godber Blueprint …

          Behind Closed Doors | Frank Davis
          https: //
          4 Jun 2015 – “I can’t break with Godber,” wrote Crossman in his diary in October 1969 ….. I want to see it reduced to an activity of consenting adults in private.

          Banning SHS at Home – Frank Davis
          24 Feb 2011 – “Godber recollected that he had said in 1962 to Keith Joseph, another … but I want to see it reduced to an activity of consenting adults in private.

          If you said it on this blog, you can find it again.

        • Frank Davis says:

          Can you search for something you wrote as a comment on my blog?

        • Some French bloke says:

          I use google advanced search, enter enough key words or phrases (including original typos if need be!), then, in the site/domain field, just enter:

          Works 99% of the time… though, some weeks ago, I was searching for some past comments on the subject of inhaling, clearly remembering I had once used the rather rare word ‘epiglottis’, and also quoted something by Ring Lardner to illustrate a particular acception of the word ‘inhale’, but in spite of the specialised nature of the terms… result came there none! So, with the additional clues that the comment in question had been passed of a Sunday more than 2 years ago, I started rummaging via the Bangin On archives pages and soon noticed there hadn’t been any posting by Frank on Sunday, June 15th 2014. Could it be that some leprechaun dispatched by TC had lifted that day’s thread from the interweb, deeming the reference to the epiglottis too inconvenient and liable to damage the credibily of their precious narrative? (they wouldn’t want us to know too much about physiology either, would they? Keep us in the dark as much as possible, the better to keep the Big Lie alive.) Turned out this hypothesis was wrong and the comment had appeared on the preceding Sunday:

          but that particular post wasn’t ‘googleable’ at the time… I checked some minutes ago and the post and comments have finally ‘resurfaced’ as far as google search is concerned.

  10. Juliet 46 says:

    Could pubs have a room sealed away from the bar area, for smokers and their pals, air con/extractors on full if needed (call it a SNUG!) go and get your pint, and your mates’ pints from the bar, come back into the closed room and enjoy your pint and fag with your friends…

    • Frank Davis says:

      Not in the UK under the current law.

    • Juliet, no. You need to remember that the purpose of the ban actually has nothing to do with “workers’ health” or “secondhand smoke.” Those were simply the excuses that allowed for the ban to be put into effect with some degree of cooperation from the public.

      The entire idea behind the ban comes from classical conditioning reward/punishment theory as its normally applied to rats in laboratory situations: make smoking as “painful” as possible so as to discourage the behavior. Providing comfortable separate rooms would not fulfill that need: smokers and their friends would simply migrate to those areas and carry on as before. In the rare cases where you’ve seen any officially sanctioned attempt at such areas you’ll almost always find limitations designed to ensure that the areas are specifically NOT inviting at all: there’ll be no seating, or seats will be in straight lines bolted to the floor to prevent comfortable gathering, or there’ll be only two walls and no roof allowed, or no drinks/food or television/music allowed, etc — all things that clearly have nothing to do with smoke and everything to do with giving the nasty smokers “electric shocks” for indulging in the “undesired” behavior pattern and “condition” them… just like those lab rats… into doing what the experimenters desire.

      – MJM

    • Rose says:

      The whole point of the law is to have smokers standing outside in all weathers making a public spectacle of themselves, even the smoking shelters have to be 50% open to the elements by law.
      As one of the perpetrators explained in 2008

      “.. Gilmore explains that people choosing to stand outside to smoke, shivering in the cold, demonstrates that tobacco is a “drug of addiction”

      It was obvious what they were up to from the start.

      • Rose! Exactly!! I’d forgotten that element of it, but it’s definitely right up there with the punishment/conditioning!

        Heh, something I’ve greatly enjoyed doing on some of the boards is backing the Antis into a corner on “protecting the children” from “seeing people using their drugs” by inviting them to join us in overturning the bans and getting smokers back inside of pubs and out of the sight of “impressionable” 17 year old or 20 year old “children” on “their way home from school.” LOL! It’s amazing how quickly the Antis duck ‘n run for cover…


        as I like to put it…

        They run away faster than a little girl from a pack of tarantulas!


  11. Timothy Goodacre says:

    I’ve had loads of pro smoking comments deleted from websites such those of doctors or TC. They don’t like opposition to their totalitarian, puritan views.

    • Smoking Lamp says:

      That’s the truth! In fact if they can’t get dissenting comments suppressed they will attack in the most vile, brutish language possible. The antismoker cult is anti freedom and relishes suppression of dissent. The only thing they attack more than criticism of their agenda and exposing their lies is mention of their corrupt funding streams…

    • beobrigitte says:

      I’ve had loads of pro smoking comments deleted from websites such those of doctors or TC. They don’t like opposition to their totalitarian, puritan views.
      Worse even, to the one who writes comments they are visible until they leave the site. When the commenter logs back in, his/her comments have been erased (unless you get to the ultimate TC tactic brain wave, hence it is always good to ask a friend to check that your comment is REALLY there!)
      I didn’t think it had to do with opposition to their somewhat outlandish views, I put it down to common sense not making sense to them….

  12. Wonderfully analyzed Frank! Thank you!

  13. Frank Davis says:

    Historic moment for Britain as the Brexit Bill is PASSED by MPs despite desperate bid by more than 100 Remoaners to block Article 50 from being triggered

    Read more:

    • The phrase about making beds and lying in them comes to mind. I suppose if there is one good thing to come out of this whole pre-Brexit process then it is that never again will any British Prime Minister (and most European ones too) ever dream of offering a referendum on anything again. It’s called a plebiscide because it kills democracy.

  14. waltc says:

    I sure hope –as well as believe–that the Trump Names Soros Security Threat (with implications of arrest?) is fake because there would go freedom of speech and here would come an era of political prisoners. The whole thing points to the real danger of fake news and the gullibility born of mindless partisanship. Anyone who’d cheer such a move had better learn fast that “turnabout is fair play” and they’d be likely to find themselves on the wrong side of steel doors. (I think of the move by some in our congress to charge scientists who question Global Warming, as well as their funders, under Rico statutes.)

    As for Soros, I found this biographical article illuminating:

  15. waltc says:

    Within literal minutes of Trump’s Scotus nomination, the Left was doing their usual Wolf crying. In fact, reports said that before the announcement they’d already amassed on the steps with signs reading something like “No to ____” and were filling in the blank with the guy’s name in Magic Markers. Nancy Pelosi was on TV either last nite or this AM saying, “If you eat food, drink water, breathe air or take medicine” the nominee was out to get you. …

    I add as an addendum that the Left–so ostensibly afraid that “Russian interference” was craftily designed to divide the country, has done more in the last week to divide the country than any alleged outside force. The street riots and MSM drumbeats have weakened America in the eyes of both our enemies and friends. I wonder, too, if the petitioners so eager to keep Trump from visiting London are even vaguely aware that, since trade with the US would help the UK as it Brexits, that they might, in the name of some gauzy principle or reflexive tantrum, be putting that–and their own welfare–at risk.

    • waltc says:

      Also saw
      on the news last nite that the president of the EU was now listing America under Trump as one of the direst threats to Europe, the others being Russia, China, and Islamic terror. That, for example

  16. beobrigitte says:

    I’m beginning to wonder if the idea is to turn Trump into the sort of dictator that I’m sure he doesn’t want to be, simply by creating and maintaining enough civil disturbance to eventually force him to act.
    I got this impression, too. But then, he said he gives people the power, so I guess he is looking out for the long by lobby groups’ (i.e. tobacco control?) victims.
    We already have civil disturbance. Not only in the US.
    And we have the mainstream media feeding this disturbance.

    • “I’m beginning to wonder if the idea is to turn Trump into the sort of dictator that I’m sure he doesn’t want to be, simply by creating and maintaining enough civil disturbance to eventually force him to act.”

      I’m pretty sure that was the plan of a portion of the crowds and pushers at the main inauguration day demos where things turned nasty. The whole agents provocateurs thing when you push for “The Man” to overreact, hopefully shooting a few folks along the way with lots of good pics of screaming crowds and maybe even a couple of children as victims, and VOILA… you’ve created your “monster”!

      Fortunately the cops etc were very restrained during that whole thing and their game didn’t work. They’ll try again, but they’ll need another crisis point to mold around.

      – MJM

      • waltc says:

        They’re rioting (burning/smashing) at the UC Berkeley campus tonite. Not a cop in sight tho reports say some are around somewhere. So I think there’s a concerted effort not to play into the cop=pig meme, and so…so what if a few things burn. Meanwhile, Berkeley, where the Free Speech movement started in the 60s is rioting to suppress a speech. Clearly they, who so loudly oppose what they imagine is facsism/Nazism don’t comprehend that what they’re doing IS facsism/Nazism.

  17. slugbop007 says:

    I have been banned on Quebec Tobacco Control’s Twitter feed and by at least one Montreal Gazette journalist. I sent them, as well as the Mayor of Montreal and the Premier of Quebec, a photo of a famous French Canadian hockey player, Jean Béliveau. It showed him lounging on his bed, reading a book, with a fat cigar in his mouth and a painting of Jesus Christ above his head. I asked them why the secondhand smoke hadn’t seriously harmed or killed his wife and two daughters. He’s gone now but his wife is in her eighties. The daughters are doing fine, with children of their own. They are full of shit. Neurotic, psychopathic hypochondriacs.


  18. slugbop007 says:

    The hockey players in Beliveau’s era traveled by train from city to city. Montreal to New York, Chicago, Detroit, etc. While traveling they played cards, drank whisky, beer and whatnot, smoked cigars, cigarettes and cigarillos. Most of them lived into their eighties.


    • beobrigitte says:

      Here the media went it’s usual wonky way. The so called muslim ban excluded women and children.
      However, on the list of muslim countries this applying for one significant country was missing: Saudi Arabia. Wasn’t Osama bin laden and his numerous wives and children Saudi Arabian nationals?

  19. slugbop007 says:

    A rolling pub.


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