Public Opinion on Smoking Ban Sought

South Wales Evening Post (2 Sep 2016):

Public opinion needed over hospitals’ smoking ban review

HYWEL Dda University Health Board wants your opinions about smokers lighting up on hospital grounds.

The health board is asking the public to complete a survey, which asks 12 questions and takes less than 10 minutes to complete, which will provide them with information by the time the current Smoke Free policy is reviewed in the coming months.

Teresa Owen, director of public health for Hywel Dda University Health Board, said: “We have asked our staff about how they think we can encourage smokers not to smoke on our hospital sites, and now we’re asking for the public’s opinion.

I filled in the questionnaire. As I expected, the questions were all heavily weighted against smokers. Sort of along the lines of: Do you think smokers in the hospital grounds should be a) attacked by grizzly bears, b) shot on sight, c) blown up with land mines,  d) decapitated by DeASH executioners, or e) something else.

Fortunately almost every question had a ‘something else’ option with a text input box. And the very last question was a general question with a text input box. I used this for a bit of a rant. Although I might have made a better job of it if I had thought for a few minutes about what’s so vindictive and petty and bossy, as well as completely unnecessary, about hospital smoking bans.

Although I did remember to call for the expulsion from the medical profession of all those responsible for these thoroughly obnoxious bans.

And I wasn’t even asked for a name or an email address.

The opinions of smokers like me will be ignored, of course. But that won’t stop me giving it to them. Thoughtful of them, though, to actually consult the public before they put the landmines in place, introduce grizzly bears, issue sniper rifles to hospital staff, and train up a few DeASH executioners.

It’s no wonder that the NHS is struggling, if it wastes money on totally unnecessary and completely useless smoking bans in hospital grounds.


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19 Responses to Public Opinion on Smoking Ban Sought

  1. Smoking Lamp says:

    I commented “Amend the smoking ban to allow designated smoking areas and stop the persecution of smokers” in the closing comment space.

  2. I commented that awareness of their draconian policies might be raised by “the addition of Sig Runes to the No Smokers signs” and “HB Staff should spend their time doing the jobs they are paid for by tax paying adults, not bossing adults around.”

    Far as I can tell the survey is merely a tool to justify the ‘policing’ of smokers by staff.

  3. roobeedoo2 says:

    That was a very enjoyable half hour spent filling in the ‘other’ boxes :D

    • M. Cooper says:

      Agreed. They won’t take any notice, but it was fun telling them to stop wasting money and get on with the job they are supposed to do.

  4. waltc says:

    Buckshot: to end the smoke/black thing, I was pretty sure I’d read it in noir crime novels–Chandler, maybe– and sho nuff, scroll down to the S’s here:

    The ostensibly rational excuse for denying surgery to smokers is that they don’t heal as well. I believe there’s a great deal of evidence to the contrary but there’s nothing like a few junk studies probably designed from before the get-go to support the agenda to counteract a few centuries of experience. In any case, the excuse is fesigned to exonerate them from accusations of prejudice.

    Filled out the form Saturday. You’ll note the final leading question was how the hospital staff could best help me to quit smoking. I told them that since smoking was not a disease, I did not seek a cure.

    • Frank Davis says:

      What an amazing number of ‘slurs’ in that link.

      It took me a while to figure out ‘tycoon’.

      And ‘watermelons’ I associate more with James Delingpole’s description of environmentalists: ‘green on the outside, red on the inside.’

      I found myself wondering whether they were really ‘slurs’. Most of them seemed quite inoffensive. A bit like ‘birds’ and ‘chicks’ used for women.

      Anyway, ‘smoke’ was indeed on the list.

      • Some French bloke says:

        Cassell’s Dictionary of Slang also has:

        cloud n.² [20C] a derog; term for a Black person, esp. a crowd of Black people. [play on SMOKE n. 4]

  5. nisakiman says:

    I filled it in a couple of days ago, and my final comment was:

    The NHS is supposed to be a compassionate organisation, but by persecuting and infantilising 20% of the adult population, they have shown themselves to be anything but. Instead of this lunacy of ‘smoke-free’ sites, which merely serves to pile more stress and discomfort onto both patients and their families in a time of extreme vulnerability, the NHS should be building warm, comfortable smoking shelters near the entrance so both smoking patients and their visitors are afforded a degree of civilised treatment, rather than the bigoted and unnecessary discrimination they suffer at the moment. The ‘caring’ NHS? Ha, don’t make me laugh…

  6. sackersonwp says:

    If you want change, choose your targets carefully. Win a battle at a time. How can it not be reasonable to offer a separate smoking room / snug where this is physically possible, in pubs?

  7. PJH says:

    “Are you aware of the other support services available to help those who want to stop smoking?”

    D) Other: Electronic Cigarettes. Oh, wait, you want those banned two even though they aren’t smoking.

  8. Supergran says:

    And totally unnecessary and useless Smoking Ban questionnaires eh? As if they give a shit!!

    • waltc says:

      Whether or not they give a shit isn’t the point, the point is to let them know there’s large, strong and justified opposition, so they don’t get to think their proposals are popular/acceptable, or that everyone agrees/ no one objects. The point is to let them know they’re not giving a shit about being irrationally inhumane. The other point is to be able to look yourself steadily in the eye in the morning mirror and know you didn’t passively accept your persecution.

      • Some French bloke says:

        “be able to look yourself steadily in the eye in the morning mirror and know you didn’t passively accept your persecution.”

        There has come a time when we’d have to be literally crippled not to stand up for one quite elementary, ‘common or garden’ right, and to be positively mute not to cry out our discontent and outrage at the false premises used as a basis for the fire that right has come under. Even a worm will – and should – turn.

  9. harleyrider1978 says:
  10. harleyrider1978 says:

    FILIPINOS who smoke and drink alcohol, as well as 17-year-olds or younger who love to party until the wee hours of the morning may have to make some adjustments in their lifestyle under the incoming administration.

    In an interview in Davao City Sunday night, presumptive President-elect Rodrigo Duterte vowed to implement a nationwide curfew, smoking and liquor ban to protect the welfare of the general populace.

    Just like in Davao City, Duterte told reporters, he would set a 10 p.m. curfew for unaccompanied minors.

    He then vowed to order the police to arrest the parents for letting their children below the majority age of 18 to be out by themselves beyond the imposed curfew.

    “My order is this: not to arrest the child, the minor,” Duterter said, adding that after placing the child into the custody of concerned agencies, the police would then arrest the parents.

    Duterte cited the Revised Penal Code as his basis for arresting parents found allowing their underage children roam the streets during ungodly hours.

    Aside from the nationwide curfew, Duterte said he is also going to implement a liquor ban and no-smoking policy all over the country.

    He said the sale of alcohol could be prohibited as early as 10 p.m.

    “We need legislation for that. The Congress can give it to me …” Duterte stressed.

    Asked whether 10 p.m. was too early, the tough-talking mayor said, “You have the whole day [para bumili]ng isang truck ng beer (to buy a truck of beer).”

    He was quick to point out, however, that the liquor ban will start from 2 a.m.

    For the past 14 years, Davao City has imposed a ban on the sale of liquors at 1 a.m.

    Duterte said he would also ban smoking in enclosed public areas nationwide, with “smoking room” to be prohibited.

    Smoking will only be allowed on the street, 50 meters away from establishments, he added.

    Davao City has been implementing an anti-smoking ordinance since 2002.

    It may be recalled that toward the end of his campaign for the presidency, Duterte had said in jest that he might give smokers two days to adjust before banning smoking in public areas nationwide. CATHERINE S. VALENTE

    • Smoking Lamp says:

      He is also responsible for over 2,000 extrajudicial execution s tied to the drug war. Seems prohibition and antismoking mix well with fascism… Must be the attraction of eugenics and puritan disdain.

    • Some French bloke says:

      Oh, to be able to legitimately declare that Davao City has become the anti-smoking arse-hole of the world! Unfortunately, nobody is…

  11. Mark Jarratt, Canberra, Australia says:

    I too spent an amusing if probably wasted few minutes completing the online questionnaire, pointing out amongst other pertinent observations that believing second hand tobacco smoke outdoors is somehow ‘toxic’ is evidence of scientific illiteracy. I did however improve my knowledge of the rhythmic Welsh language. Now I shall go and practice my Llapgoch skills.

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