Hospital News

I came across 3 stories about NHS hospitals today.

Number one:

Obese people and smokers ‘banned from routine surgery’ as NHS attempts to cut spending costs

‘It’s the only way providers are going to be able to balance their books… the service is bursting at the seams’

Then they’ll start on the drinkers. Only approved lifestyles will get treatment.

Number two:

EXPOSED: The hard-Left doctors more concerned with bashing the Tories than your health, who idolise Marx, believe Brexiters are ‘racist’ and want to make ‘capitalism history’

The British Medical Association has called for rolling five-day strikes

BMA’s Junior Doctors Committee (JDC) is full of Labour Party members

I can believe it. Sir Richard Doll was a leftie. So also Sir George Godber. These people are not interested in health.

Number three:

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A 34-year-old man from Southend has admitted that he is OUTRAGED after spotting a sign outside James Paget Hospital in Lowestoft that ‘discouraged him’ from going inside as he feels that it is racist and discriminatory.

Derek Malcolm, whose grandparents settled in the UK in 1959 after coming over from the West Indies, believes that the declaration that the hospital is ‘smoke free’ is unacceptable due to the way that the word ‘smoke’ can be interpreted to mean ‘black person.’

He told Southend News Network’s Chief Reporter that he intends to take his fight to the very highest level.

He said: ‘The word ‘smoke’ is just another horrible word that can be used to describe a black person, and while it is nowhere near as commonly-used as other terms in modern society, it is still an unacceptable insult to someone over the colour of their skin.’

That’s a new one. A ‘smoke’ as a black person. Never heard it myself. But it could be true. Because ‘smoky’ or ‘smoked’ does mean ‘dark’.

And ‘smoke-free’ is racist!

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42 Responses to Hospital News

  1. harleyrider1978 says:

    Just when you thought the insanest state in the world couldn’t go any more wacko they did!

    http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2016/09/01/cow-fart-regulations-approved-by-californias-legislature/#comment-645607

  2. harleyrider1978 says:

    smokefree is for sure worse than JIM CROW LAWS. You see blacks were still allowed in or they could own their own places and keep whites out.

    With smoking bans,you cant even go in much less have your own place that says NO NON SMOKERS ALLOWED!

  3. harleyrider1978 says:

    If smoky means black racism,whats that make the brit term bum a fag from ya bloke mean now! lol

    • Rick James says:

      This is the Uk dictionary
      noun
      1.
      the visible vapor and gases given off by a burning or smoldering substance, especially the gray, brown, or blackish mixture of gases and suspended carbon particles resulting from the combustion of wood, peat, coal, or other organic matter.
      2.
      something resembling this, as vapor or mist, flying particles, etc.
      3.
      something unsubstantial, evanescent, or without result:
      Their hopes and dreams proved to be smoke.
      4.
      an obscuring condition:
      the smoke of controversy.
      5.
      an act or spell of smoking something, especially tobacco:
      They had a smoke during the intermission.
      6.
      something for smoking, as a cigar or cigarette:
      This is the best smoke on the market.
      7.
      Slang. marijuana.

    • Rick James says:

      Smokey is american slang and CB language for a Police man

  4. Roobeedoo2 says:

    I’m afraid the smoke=black person article comes from a parody news site, Frank. It looks genuine – I nearly got caught out by it earlier this year ;)

    https://roobeedoo2.wordpress.com/2016/02/25/sex-ed-up-wicked-dipper/

    Hey, it was Tobacco Controllers that labelled smokers ‘black on the inside’ with their Black Lung lie…

    *Yeah that and the fact modern tobacco science is based on 1930’s German scientists’ ‘smoking causes lung cancer’ research, funded by their anti-smoking Führer*

    • Frank Davis says:

      Oh well….

      Smoking ban news is so surreal these days that anything seems possible.

    • DP says:

      Yes the same smoke free Fuhrer who was a certified drug fiend and backed up by Herman Goering who was a coke addict

      • sackersonwp says:

        And AH was a vegetarian.

      • Janet Huxley says:

        Aye, the fuhrer (no capital letter for that bastard!) also had terrible flatulence, his breath stank, was treated by his personal quack – on 17 injections per day including morphine and christal meth and was arguably the most prolific killer ever known. Bastard. Hope he rots in hell

    • beobrigitte says:

      I’m afraid the smoke=black person article comes from a parody news site, Frank. It looks genuine – I nearly got caught out by it earlier this year ;)

      Hahahahahaha – I didn’t read your reply first before I commented….. Saves me getting laughed at by my West Indies friend….

      However, the pictures in the video are real. They were flyers at the time. My mother had an old suitcase which she lined with them when transporting syrup from my grandparents to our place. (The best one in my opinion was the flyer with the VW going up in smoke – I wish I had kept them to show my English friends).

      • beobrigitte says:

        which she lined with them when transporting syrup from my grandparents to our place.
        Actually, I did suspect she transported Erdaepfler (very similar to Poitin) and made a bit of extra cash …..

  5. cherie79 says:

    Got my six year scan results on Friday and my surgeon said everything was great though he didn’t quite understand it as I refuse to stop smoking ! I told him he was brainwashed from ill informed vested interests. Just maybe it will make one thoracic surgeon think we oldies are talking from experience and might be right.

  6. wobbler2012 says:

    I must have travelled half way round the world visiting many countries and have never heard of people using the word smoke to refer to black people, that guy’s off his rocker if he expects anything to be done about that sign.

    The truth is he should be offended by the sign as it’s more smoker bullying which is plain wrong.
    Note the “help is available for patients…..” bullshit at the bottom. These people make me sick.

  7. harleyrider1978 says:

  8. Re smokes = blacks… Actually I *have* run across the term used that way, and fairly recently, though I can’t figure out from where. :/ Hmm… Tony Soprano referring to his daughter’s boyfriend at one point perhaps? Dunno.

    • waltc says:

      Yes, smoke=black in ’30s-40s US slang. But it IS hard to tell parody from reality these days.

      • harleyrider1978 says:

        I never heard SMOKED before even as a kid darkies,coons, picanninies , mullatos uncle toms,N word…………But never smoked. I guess one could take it Racial if ones skin was off color even a bit. Itd seem to me itd more mean mixed origins or half breed than simply totally black.

        But to take a word that meant something else 7 decades or more ago that has fallen out of common language isn’t much of a case.

        But if it defeats anti smoking Nazis……………good on him!

  9. sackersonwp says:

    In the days of Citizens Band radio, a smoky in the US was a policeman (as in the forest-fire-warning Smoky the Bear).

    • harleyrider1978 says:

      Exactly and that’s the only way I ever heard it before. The smoky bear hat is what highway patrolman always wore……….I got run over by one down in Fla in an unmarked Patrol car back in Lake county on my new Harley. He ran the stop sign with the sun in his eyes just as I was making the turn. Sent me and the bike skipping down the road for about 50 feet. I got up thru me helmet on the ground cussing and pissed off heading to get me some CAGE driver done run me down…………..Just as I look up I see he is putting on a smoky bear hat……..I start saying to myself shut up Harley shut now!!!!!

      Anyway they made good on the accident paid off the hawg and I bought back salvage rights for 400 bucks on a 4000 dollar Harley at the time it wasn’t 3 weeks old and under 300 miles on it.

      Anyway I got about 8000 time it was done,was sure better than any beating the guy up satisfaction was worth! But then ehh satisfaction has its place in value too!

      But pissed off has a bad way of just happening when you don’t want it to happen!

  10. Elvis says:

    That’s how Smokey Robinson of “Tears on my pillow” fame is reported to have got his Nickname.

    • harleyrider1978 says:

      In less than 24 hours guardian shut down comments………….Removed probably 100

      comments (775)

      This discussion is closed for comments.

      • harleyrider1978 says:

        The World Health Organisation ranks bacon, ham and sausages alongside smoking as a cause of cancer, placing processed meats in the same carcinogenic category as asbestos, alcohol and arsenic. The World Cancer Research Fund advises eating cured meats as little as possible – ideally not at all. And there’s persuasive evidence that, compared to a solely plant-based diet, eating meat shortens life and makes people sicker and fatter.

        Against this background, the NHS allows fast food chains in its hospitals. Patient menus offer a wide selection of meats every day. And creamed potatoes, beef casserole and sweet chilli pork and rice are recommended “healthier choices”. Patients can tuck into disease-promoting animal flesh, but do not enjoy unrestricted hedonism. Meat eaters who enjoy a relaxing cigarette after dinner are prevented from doing so, apparently in their own and others’ best interests, thanks to a blanket ban on smoking.

        But how can the NHS sensibly ban cigarettes as a known health hazard while simultaneously promoting meat? To endorse one known danger while completely banning a similar one makes no sense. Either it’s OK to allow free choice or it’s OK to prevent “unhealthy behaviours”, but you can’t have it both ways. If you ban smoking you have to ban meat, which causes considerably more damage to animals, the environment and individuals than smoking. If you don’t ban meat, then you can’t ban smoking. Which is it to be? George Orwell coined the idea of doublethink in his dystopian novel Nineteen Eighty-Four to highlight the troubling phenomenon where we simultaneously accept mutually contradictory beliefs as true, blissfully unaware there’s any conflict.

        In doublethink we fail to notice even the most stunning inconsistencies. Most people like to think of themselves as animal lovers – in the UK for example about half of all households keep pets – yet it’s estimated that only 2%–10% of the UK population is vegetarian (will eat dairy and eggs) and less than 1% is vegan (will not eat or use any animal matter). So it seems that at least 50 million British animal lovers are happy to eat them, which is surely more than a little weird.

        The government’s response to obesity and diabetes is insulting

        We’ve all seen people putting money in animal charity collection boxes with one hand, while eating a beef burger with the other. But even staring absurdity in the face, most of us don’t notice a problem. We only see it once we’re ready to. Until then we flick it away: “pets are different”, “pigs are meant to be eaten”, “we have to have our iron”, “all farmed animals are treated well”, “you can slaughter animals humanely”, and so on.

        We are plagued by doublethink because we habitually separate the world into unrelated packets. Smoking is a health issue. Meat is normal. Alcohol is bad. Not allowing tobacco products to be displayed is health promotion. Allowing body parts of slaughtered animals on public view in supermarkets is wholesome. Illogical beliefs appear compatible if their true connections are disguised. Smoking is tightly wrapped in a packet labelled “Very bad for your health”, whereas eating meat is in a quite different packet called “a balanced diet” or “you need your protein”. So long as we see the world in disconnected chunks, we can avoid serious thought, and preserve the status quo. We need more opportunity to think deeply for ourselves. And where better to begin than in the NHS, which should offer balanced information about many life choices, not just those which it’s fashionable to ban.

        David Seedhouse is professor of values-based practice at the University of Worcester. His new book, Thoughtful Health Care: A Practical Guide to the Power of Awareness will be published by Sage in the spring.

  11. Fred Karno says:

    http://southendnewsnetwork.com/

    They’re where the Daily Mash used to be until the Mash, sadly. went soggy and unfunny by pushing a liberal / socialist agenda. To understand the SNN humour it helps to know a bit about the area, for the headlines parody genuine ones and could well strike those north of Watford as perfectly plausible.

  12. beobrigitte says:

    Number one:

    Obese people and smokers ‘banned from routine surgery’ as NHS attempts to cut spending costs

    ‘It’s the only way providers are going to be able to balance their books… the service is bursting at the seams’
    If it wasn’t so sad I’d laugh out loud!! At least we “sinners” get a chance to hit the “poor” NHS real hard by calling an ambulance to be taken to A&E to jump the queue and be operated on at any time of the day/night. Since this will be an emergency, the cost of the procedure roughly triples.

    The NHS is run by the fine business people – *giggle* – who caused the work overload by inducing the in mostly useless but highly profitable paranoia of “prevention”. The tests alone for the NHS-routine-health-check I was told to attend amount to quite a lot of cash that the NHS pays itself and ?recycles.
    In order to frighten people into attending such nonsense appointments (lasting 30 minutes, btw) there is a diagnosis written on the form for the blood tests.
    I was baffled HOW the medic knows that I have CVD (cardiovascular disease) when I have NEVER EVER had an investigation for this. I can only assume that the medic derives this from my date of birth, which, unfortunately, cannot have surgically altered and therefore I am led to the assumption that all people >50 years have this disease, regardless of smoking status.

    Number two:

    EXPOSED: The hard-Left doctors more concerned with bashing the Tories than your health, who idolise Marx, believe Brexiters are ‘racist’ and want to make ‘capitalism history’

    The British Medical Association has called for rolling five-day strikes

    BMA’s Junior Doctors Committee (JDC) is full of Labour Party members

    Here the author must have got 2 different things mixed up or has an agenda.
    True, Labour Party supporters will pull the ‘racists’ card when it comes to Brexit voters. However, this is not why the junior medics are on strike.
    The medics are on strike simple because Hunt dictates a 7 day NHS without providing the additional number of staff required AND, more importantly, the (quite lucrative) additional weekend pay will in this case no longer be available. If you ruin your health the least you can expect is enough financial gain for it.

    In my view the Tories are New Labour and therefore equally as unvotable for.

    A 34-year-old man from Southend has admitted that he is OUTRAGED after spotting a sign outside James Paget Hospital in Lowestoft that ‘discouraged him’ from going inside as he feels that it is racist and discriminatory.

    Derek Malcolm, whose grandparents settled in the UK in 1959 after coming over from the West Indies, believes that the declaration that the hospital is ‘smoke free’ is unacceptable due to the way that the word ‘smoke’ can be interpreted to mean ‘black person.’

    I do have a friend from the West Indies and I will ask him about the word ‘smoke’ also implying black person. I have never heard this before.
    Nevertheless, I do wish the young man success. The amusement of having to watch the NHS removing the signs it paid for with our tax money is just something not to be missed!!!

    We sure live in screwed up times with screwed up governments.

  13. jaxthefirst says:

    But it’s the same old story, isn’t it? Unless and until overweight people (and, no doubt, other groups, too, in due course) recognise that they have made their own bed by agreeing with smoking bans and restrictions on smokers (which many of them probably did, whether tacitly by saying nothing, or by openly supporting such measures), they haven’t got a leg to stand on – pardon the pun – when trying to argue against exactly the same persecution now it’s being applied to them. All that the Health Police have to say is: “But we’re applying these restrictions to you for precisely the same reasons we applied them to smokers, and you agreed with that, so ….” and that’s it. End of argument. No matter that the reasons they said they applied them to smokers aren’t actually the real reasons that they did so. Few non-smokers (even fat ones) stopped to think that there might actually be any other reasons and so just went along with it, thus allowing themselves to be manoeuvred neatly into a very difficult corner that they had completely failed to foresee. Even when people on blogs like these had been saying it for ages, they simply never believed that “it would ever happen to them.”

    But now that they are here, and now that it has “happened to them,” the only hope they’ve got is to take the argument back to its roots and start speaking, loudly and firmly – and as non-smokers – against ever-increasing restrictions on smoking and smokers, and even – difficult though they may find it – to start advocating a more tolerant approach towards existing bans and restrictions. Will they be able to understand this? Will their pride allow them to admit that they have been duped all along and that we were right? Will they be able to let go of that little sense of superiority that they gain from saying to themselves and others “well, I may be overweight, but at least I don’t smoke ….”?? Who knows? But one thing is for sure: if they don’t, then all of their self-interested arguments will count for naught and things will simply get worse for them. They only have to ask a smoker how these things go to find that out.

  14. DP says:

    Dear Mr Davis

    The Southend News Network site mentioned by Fred Karno (September 4, 2016 at 2:32 pm) carries the story, though whether they made it up or pinched it from elsewhere is moot.

    http://southendnewsnetwork.com/news/man-threatens-legal-action-over-racist-sign-at-suffolk-hospital/

    The perpetually offended and those with hair-trigger sensitivities can bone up on words to take offence at on http://www.rsdb.org/races: pick a race, any race …

    No doubt we can look forward to I’m Dreaming of a White Christmas being banned.

    Some smoke looks quite white to me, and I have yet to come across black smoked salmon, which suggests a certain selectivity when it comes to choosing what to take offence at.

    DP

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