So Who’s Unfit For Office?

Independent:

“The Republican nominee is unfit to serve as president, I said it last week and he keeps on proving it,” Mr Obama said. “The notion that he would attack a Gold Star family, that made such extraordinary sacrifices on behalf of our country, the fact that he doesn’t appear to have basic knowledge around critical issues, in Europe, in the Middle East, in Asia, means that he is woefully unprepared to do this job.”

“This is different from just having policy disagreements,” with the candidate of the other party, Mr Obama said, addressing reporters alongside the Prime Minister of Singapore, Lee Hsien Loong, who was on an official visit to the White House on Tuesday.

“There have been Republican presidents with whom I have disagreed, but I didn’t have a doubt they could function as president,” Mr Obama went on. “I think that I was right that Mitt Romney and John McCain were wrong on certain policy issues, but I never thought that they couldn’t have done the job.”

“I would have said…I know they are going to abide by certain norms and rules and common sense, they will observe basic decency, will have enough knowledge about economic policy and foreign policy…that our government will work,” Mr Obama said. “But that’s not the situation here.”

This was an extraordinary attack by a sitting President. Usually they stay out of elections. In what way does Obama think Trump is “unfit”? From what I can make out what he’s saying is that Trump doesn’t abide by “norms and rules and common sense.” And that’s probably true, at least in one narrow sense: Trump doesn’t abide by Obama’s “norms and rules and common sense.”

It’s probably also true that Trump isn’t that strong on any number of issues like Europe, the Middle East, and Asia. But what newly-elected President ever is? Very few, I imagine. That’s why they surround themselves with seasoned foreign policy advisers.

By “unfit”, I took it he meant that Trump was physically or mentally unfit. But he doesn’t seem to me to be either. And Obama offered no evidence for it.

But what about Hillary Clinton? Here’s Dilbert cartoonist Scott Adams:

Clinton looks unhealthy to me, and to many observers. And she has had some unexplained episodes that look like leftover brain damage from her concussion, or from a stroke, or something. See Mike Cernovich explain this one. I’m not a doctor, so my medical opinion has zero credibility. But there is certainly a legitimate question here. If voters are not confident in the brain-health of their candidates, that’s as big a problem as you can have.

Don’t act like it doesn’t matter. If you do, you’re a science-denier.

I also think Trump needs to get tested at the same time. He does have a lot of energy, if you know what I mean. At age 70, nearly all adults are on some sort of meds. Let’s sort it out. Their meds might not be the type that influence decisions.

More at Zero Hedge. And then there’s this:

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The photos, published by the Reuters and Getty news agencies, show Mrs. Clinton, 68, receiving help as she tries to ascend a staircase in front of a home. The images were actually taken in February when the former first lady was campaigning for president in South Carolina…

Mrs. Clinton has a history of falling. After fainting and falling in 2013 while U.S. secretary of state, she was treated for a blood clot in a vein in her head at New York-Presbyterian/Columbia hospital.

In 2009, she fell on her way to the White House and broke her elbow.

So who’s really “unfit” for the office of President?

We may find out over the next 3 months. My bet is that, given that Hillary Clinton hasn’t done any press conferences for about 8 months, she’s isn’t going to want to do any debates with Donald Trump either. And if she does, I’ll expect to see her faint or freeze or require medical assistance half way through.

Maybe that’s why Obama is intervening strongly on her behalf.

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25 Responses to So Who’s Unfit For Office?

  1. A debate could prove VERY interesting: particularly if the Libertarian candidate, Johnson, managed to get in on it. If T & H either annihilated each other or self-annihilated while on an equal national stage with a strong Libertarian Candidate (I have no idea whether Johnson IS a strong L.C) the election could be VERY interesting.

    – MJM

    • harleyrider1978 says:

      Mike Johnsons basically painted himself a communist in the last 2 weeks with his latest out bursts. Hed do better hiding out than running.Trump isn’t doing himself any good joining with Ryans quest. Hitlery hell she doesn’t even try and hide the fact shes a total Marxist anymore.

      • Joe L. says:

        I voted for Johnson in ’12, and I thought he was a weak Libertarian candidate then. This time around, he seems to be even more of a let-down. He recently flip-flopped and is now apparently in favor of the TPP! WTF? I really wish the Libertarian party would have put forth a better candidate this time around.

  2. Charlie says:

    It’s also fascinating to see Trump generally condemned as “unfit” because of lots of things he *might* do. As opposed to all the things that Clinton *has* done which definitely make her unfit, but they don’t seem to matter so much. Oddly.

  3. Chester Draws says:

    Other presidents use experienced aides to cover their areas of ignorance.

    Trump uses his children.

  4. mikef317 says:

    I don’t like Hillary Clinton but I find myself obligated to defend her over the “tripping” photograph.

    I won’t be voting this year. From the start of the election cycle, I’ve written off ALL Dem and Rep candidates as inept assholes. (Does anyone remember Rand Paul? Does anyone [except Walt] know who George Pataki [three term governor of New York state] is?)

    Much like the UK (?), U. S. political parties are in a God awful mess.

    Hillary is a “cookie-cutter” Democrat. Most Dems accept public health and global warming nonsense as UNQUESTIONABLE SCIENTIFIC TRUTH. Given “any Dem but Hillary,” just about any Dem would support the same policies. (Bernie Sanders isn’t really a Democrat; he’s a Socialist who yells a lot.)

    Republicans are equally devoid of new ideas. Most advocate reducing taxes, outlawing abortion, and bombing the hell out of one or more Middle Eastern countries. (And George W. Bush didn’t rescind the White House smoking ban when he was President.)

    Regarding Hillary’s health, here is a different prospective.

    http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-slipping-on-stairs/

    Like I said, I’m not a Hillary fan. Her only virtue is that she isn’t Donald Trump.

  5. jameshigham says:

    It would be good to nuke em, providing there was no collateral.

  6. MervinToot says:

    Very true Frank – this video by Paul Joseph Watson covers this topic perfectly, and it’s gone viral.

  7. slugbop007 says:

    I just checked this website on copper rich foods and found many items that are on Public Health’s Hit List, including coffee, carbonated beverages and the like. The list is four pages long. What a find! http://nutritiondata.self.com/foods-000125000000000000000-1.html boing007

  8. slugbop007 says:

    Correction, make that 16 pages. boing007

  9. harleyrider1978 says:

    With Hitlery you can be sure of one thing,every liberty or right you thought you had will be a criminal offense under her. Look for prohibitions on everything and not just tobacco but alcohol,firearms ammunition since they cant touch the guns themselves……….coffee shit that’s just more of the same. You want a real look at the future,look at American politics from 1900-1933 and you’ve got our future under Clintons dream.

  10. Jeff says:

    Imagine if eight years ago George W Bush had said : ‘Obama is unfit to serve as President’ :)

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  12. Barnaby Capel-Dunn says:

    Dear Frank

    I would like to make three points re your post:

    a) You do not address the point made by Obama concerning “The notion that he would attack a Gold Star family, that made such extraordinary sacrifices on behalf of our country” (makes the Republican nominee unfit to serve as President).

    Any reason why not? The nearest you get to replying is when you say “By “unfit”, I took it he meant that Trump was physically or mentally unfit. But he doesn’t seem to me to be either. And Obama offered no evidence for it.” But, for goodness sake, Frank, He’s just given you an example of why he thinks Trump is “unfit”!!!!

    b) When Obama says “the fact that he (Trump) doesn’t appear to have basic knowledge around critical issues, in Europe, in the Middle East, in Asia, means that he is woefully unprepared to do this job”, you reply “But what newly-elected President ever is? ” George Bush Senior perhaps? Dwight D. Eisenhower?

    c) You write: “My bet is that, given that Hillary Clinton hasn’t done any press conferences for about 8 months, she’s isn’t going to want to do any debates with Donald Trump either. And if she does, I’ll expect to see her faint or freeze or require medical assistance half way through.”

    You may well be right, but if you are not, can we look forward to hear you admitting as much?

    • Frank Davis says:

      So Trump attacked a Gold Star family? I must say that it seemed like a complete non-event to me, that Obama was trying to make into some big deal.

      As for starting a new job, I’ve never ever in my entire life started a new job that I already knew how to do. There was always a learning process involved, greater or smaller. If I got hired to do it, it was probably because I already had some of the skills needed. And Trump clearly has many of the skills needed to be president: he’s been the CEO of a very successful company, and clearly has all the skills that come with doing that. He’s also clearly got good public communication skills, as he’s demonstrated over the past year. And what he maybe doesn’t know too much about – international geography, politics, history? – he’ll arrive in his job surrounded by people who do.

      I believe that George Bush senior ran the CIA before he became Reagan’s VP. So he probably had similar skills in running a large organisation. So also Eisenhower who was perhaps the most senior US WW2 army general, and knew how to run a different kind of organisation.

      What equivalent skills has Hillary Clinton got? None that I know of. She was a two-term First Lady. And she was a NY Senator for a while, and Secretary of State under Obama (during which time she kept her email on an insecure private server, which is probably the reason why it’s all now being made public). She’s really just someone who happens to have been in the public eye for a very long time. But so were Eleanor Roosevelt and Jackie Kennedy. Did that make them qualified to be president. No.

      As for the upcoming debates with Donald Trump, I’m not the only person who’s suggesting that she may not show up. And if she does, I expect they’ll be conducted seated, because I don’t think she can remain standing for 90 minutes. But if she does show up, and if she does manage to remain standing for 90 minutes, and gives as good as she gets from Trump, I’ll be the first to applaud her, because I really don’t think she can manage it.

      • Barnaby Capel-Dunn says:

        Frank

        You write: “So Trump attacked a Gold Star family? I must say that it seemed like a complete non-event to me, that Obama was trying to make into some big deal.”

        Perhaps you could tell us what Donald Trump would have to do or say to constitute “a big deal”. Kill someone perhaps?

        You also say: “And what he maybe doesn’t know too much about – international geography, politics, history? – he’ll arrive in his job surrounded by people who do.”

        He doesn’t know too much about “International geography, politics, history”? That doesn’t seem to leave very much, does it? Any idea what sort of people he’ll be “surrounded by” if he becomes president?

        • Frank Davis says:

          Independent

          The Gold Star Mothers Club was formed in the aftermath of World War One to offer support to those who had lost sons or daughters during the conflict.

          Having continued through the wars in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan and other conflicts around the world, the club currently has 933 members.

          On Monday, 17 of those Gold Star Families published a public letter to Donald Trump, upbraiding the Republican presidential candidate in strong language after he became involved in a controversy with the parents of a Muslim-American solider who died in Iraq.

          I don’t see why such an organisation should have any greater status than Alcoholics Anonymous, or Black Lives Matter. It looks to me like yet another politically correct attempt to shut down free speech, and in this case Donald Trump’s free speech.

          I have no doubt whatsoever that Donald Trump will be surrounded by experts in every conceivable matter, perhaps even people who can write and speak Russian and Chinese. As the CEO of a successful company, he probably knows very well how to delegate these matters. Nor is it clear to me that Trump’s primary concern will be with international relations. “Making America Great Again” rather suggests that he sees the job as being more about the governance of the USA than the rest of the world.

  13. Barnaby Capel-Dunn says:

    If anyone is trying to shut down Donald Trump’s free speech you have to admit they haven’t made a very good job of it! This is the man, after all, who knowingly spread the “birther” lie and who, when eventually obliged to back down, still refused to apologise.. I don’t recall any effort “to shut down Donald Trump’s free speech” as he gleefully went about spreading this lie over a period of years.

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