Sorry, Mr Valls and Mr Schauble

Telegraph:

Europe’s leaders have issued a passionate plea for Britain to remain in the European Union, fearing that Brexit could set off a disastrous chain of events at a time of existential crisis for the EU project.

Manuel Valls, the French prime minister, said the whole of European civilisation is under grave threat and the region must stick together in its own self-defence, warning that the departure of the UK would be a fatal blow. “It would be a tragedy,” he said.

Mr Valls warned that the European system is alarmingly fragile. “Europe could lose its historical footing and the project could die quickly. Things could fall apart within months,” he told the World Economic Forum in Davos.

We are involved in a world war against terrorism. We’re going to have to live with this threat for years,” he said, insisting that Europe must go on the offensive to defeat ISIS and jihadi forces in Libya, the African Sahel, and Syria.

Wolfgang Schauble, German finance minister, implored the British people to vote yes to Europe in this year’s referendum. “It would be a disaster otherwise,” he said.

Sorry, Mr Valls and Mr Schauble, but I’m one of Europe’s approximately 150 million smokers on whom the EU declared war on 26 November 2009, when the EU parliament adopted draconian antismoking proposals from the EU Commission, which included show trials of celebrity offenders.

Why should I vote for continued membership of a political organisation that treats smokers like me with complete contempt?

I used to be pro-EU until this happened. And then I realised that the EU has no intention of actually representing any of the 500 million people within its confines, least of all smokers. And I also realised that this was the sort of petty and vindictive legislation that could now be expected of the EU.

And the EU does not represent “European civilisation”. The sovereign European states that produced that remarkable civilisation never did anything as uncivilised as banning smoking (not here in Britain, at least).

And if you’re currently losing a “world war against terrorism”, you have only yourselves to blame, for opening all the borders, and inviting the terrorists in.

Europe will only become a civilisation again when the stranglehold of the centralised EU state is lifted, and it again becomes a family of trading sovereign states.

In fact I don’t think it will matter which way us Britons vote in the upcoming referendum on EU membership, because if we vote the “wrong” way, we’ll just be asked to keep voting until we vote the “right” way, as happened with Ireland. Either that, or we’ll just be ignored.

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39 Responses to Sorry, Mr Valls and Mr Schauble

  1. harleyrider1978 says:

    Mr Valls warned that the European system is alarmingly fragile. “Europe could lose its historical footing and the project could die quickly. Things could fall apart within months,” he told the World Economic Forum in Davos.

    Good I hope it happens within DAYS.

    • harleyrider1978 says:

      Me and the wife went to the new docs last thursaday and by Monday we both had a flu type bug. I called the docs back up and get told oh yes half the hospital staff have had that back pain and all over flu symptom body aches its lasting about 10 days……….

      Why the fuck didn’t they post a damn sign before you entered then I said!

      Fuckers don’t give a shit what they spread to the public. Im on day 4………bastards and the wifes not feeling very good either.

    • edith482 says:

      I totally agree with you.

  2. harleyrider1978 says:

  3. devinna says:

    Now it seems the Europeans’ want Britain!The only thing saving Britain is the Channel Tunnel,it can be closed quite easily!😊

  4. waltc says:

    Right on topic a prediction that like the soviet Union so goes the European

    http://capx.co/the-european-union-is-heading-for-the-dustbin-of-history/

    • Frank Davis says:

      Good stuff:

      The USSR withered from the periphery inwards. So it is with the EU: eastern Europe is increasingly repudiating the authority of Brussels and following a saner path. Hungary and Poland were the two most mutinous satellites of the Soviet Union and today they are playing the same role in shrugging off the impositions of Brussels that they formerly fulfilled against Moscow.

      Neither Poland nor Hungary proposes to hold a referendum on EU membership: they don’t have to, their governments have been mandated with large majorities by their electorates to assert the national interest and will. The migration crisis was the trigger, but it would have happened anyway when proud nations with ancient cultural heritages found themselves being dictated to by cultural Marxists with an anti-national, anti-Christian agenda.

      In the inverted vocabulary of Brussels, representing and implementing the wishes of an overwhelming majority of the population, e.g. by counteracting the imbalance of a constitutional court rigged by pro-EU predecessor regimes and stopping judicial activism exercising a veto over the democratic parliamentary will, is termed “populism”. It used to be called democracy. Genuinely representing an electorate is described as “illiberal”, while imposing the prejudices of Brussels apparatchiks is “liberal”, in EU Newspeak. Brussels and Berlin professed concern about media freedom in Poland, while the German media concealed the Cologne sex attacks.

      • harleyrider1978 says:

        No country needs more than a republic not democracy. With a set of rights and liberties along with well established law there is no need for standing governmental bodies to continually pass and advance ever more laws and regulations. Its a waste and constitutes mob rule over everyone including the minority whomever they maybe. IE smokers,fatties,drinkers,sugar users…………the list continues to grow. Our rights are inherent by god and protected by constitutional right. The Individual right is the foundation stone of the populations rights. To allow those rights and liberties to be voted out of existence is nothing less than LYNCH LAW or MOB rule. That’s why pure democracy is a bad thing. It must be a protected democracy using the republics ideals to protect us all from that mob that can be incited via government hate campaigns.

        I think that sums it up pretty well. There truly is no need for a standing day to day legislative body once a constitution is in place. Governments are limited to where there finances come from,the people are protected from taxation so over bearing it cannot be paid. Life Liberty and the pursuit of happiness for all,but thru your own means not by robbing others to give to others.

  5. Igrowmyown says:

    Of course we have at least six more months of this incessant pro e.u propaganda and being nice to the Brit’s, so they probably will win the vote with older people more likely to vote to leave and younger voters more likely to vote to stay,as always fear will be the manipulative tool of choice.
    O/T had to visit the hospital yesterday and in the waiting room was a poster asking for people diagnosed with lung cancer to enrol on a study to see what effect continued smoking had on the progression of the disease,so either it’s another bull-shit study or they are genuinely puzzled by some statistical results,I got the impression it was the latter.

    • Rose says:

      Interesting.

      I wonder if it’s anything to do with this.

      Normal alveolar epithelial lining fluid contains high levels of glutathione – 1987

      “epithelial lining fluid (ELF)”

      “Compared with nonsmokers, cigarette smokers had 80% higher levels of ELF total glutathione, 98% of which was in the reduced form.”

      Studies of cultured lung epithelial cells and fibroblasts demonstrated that these concentrations of reduced glutathione were sufficient to protect these cells against the burden of H2O2 in the range released by alveolar macrophages removed from the lower respiratory tract of nonsmokers and smokers, respectively, suggesting that the glutathione present in the alveolar ELF of normal individuals likely contributes to the protective screen against oxidants in the extracellular milieu of the lower respiratory tract.”
      http://jap.physiology.org/content/63/1/152.abstract?ijkey=3ea8cff64c6d72a42e1d4ef7cf9f6fd2485e5921&keytype2=tf_ipsecsha

      H/T Nightlight

      Scientists discover new molecules that kill cancer cells and protect healthy cells
      May 13, 2015

      “When the FMD compounds enter a healthy cell, the cell starts to increase the amount of a protective molecule called glutathione (GSH) in the cell. This protects the cell against chemical toxins, so it is not damaged.”
      https://www.elsevier.com/about/press-releases/research-and-journals/scientists-discover-new-molecules-that-kill-cancer-cells-and-protect-healthy-cells

      From a very cursory reading of the subject in which glutathione is being considered as a possible cancer treatment, in other studies glutathione appears to protect an existing tumour from the chemotherapy drugs too.

      I’m still puzzling over a study on mustard gas from Iran that would appear to show that after the initial exposure, lung cancer appears in smokers much later than in nonsmokers.
      Unless I’m reading it wrong of course – gardener not scientist.

      Brigitte is the one to ask.

  6. The Blocked Dwarf says:

    Pedant Alert! If you’re going to write Schäuble without the Motörhead style punctuation then it’s “Schaeuble” .

  7. Igrowmyown says:

    Yes me too Rose-gardener not scientist,it just puzzled me why they would run a nation wide study when ‘the science was settled’.

    • harleyrider1978 says:

      Guaranteed to be a propaganda study TC doesn’t waste money unless the outcome is already determined,they just need a junk study manipulated to produce the results needed.

      • Rose says:

        Doesn’t have to be anything to do with TC, Harley.

        Genuine scientists are still asking genuine questions, for example I got the MAOI in tobacco from Parkinson’s research wondering why smokers didn’t get it as often, I found the health benefits of inhaled Nitric Oxide reading new work on neurotransmitters and kept following it up, they are now trying to make carbon monoxide releasing pills for the anti inflamatory and other properties. etc etc

        If you bypass TC you find all manner of interesting new research which the scientists involved may or may not know has anything remotely to do with smoking.

        Here’s a new one I found this morning while writing this post.

        Study shows blood cells need nitric oxide to deliver oxygen
        13 April 2015

        “New findings on how red blood cells deliver oxygen from the lungs to tissue in may mean it is time to rewrite the text books on how the respiratory cycle works.”

        “For some time doctors have known there is an imbalance between the amount of oxygen transported in the blood and the amount that is delivered to tissues – but not why.

        Prof. Stamler says their study shows they have discovered the molecular basis of what controls blood flow in the respiratory cycle. The team believes nitric oxide is the key to oxygen delivery – and without it the respiratory cycle cannot run.”
        http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/292292.php

        When you add them to things we already know it gives a very different picture.

        Study Finds Benefits of Pollutant – 1993

        “… the discovery also explains why mountain climbers short of breath often claim that smoking cigarettes makes them stronger. The seeming paradox may be due to the presence of nitric oxide in cigarette smoke”
        http://www.thecrimson.com/article/1993/2/11/study-finds-benefits-of-pollutant-pa/

        Nitric oxide helps high-altitude survival – 2007

        “CLEVELAND, Nov. 6 US researchers have discovered high blood levels of nitric oxide allow people to live at high altitudes where air has low levels of oxygen.”

        “The Tibetans were found to have 10 times more nitric oxide and more than double the forearm blood flow of sea-level dwellers.

        The researchers said they believe the high levels of nitric oxide cause an increased blood flow that provides body tissues with sufficient amounts of oxygen despite low levels of oxygen in both the air and the bloodstream.”
        http: //www.upi.com/Science_News/2007/11/06/Nitric_oxide_helps_high-altitude_survival/UPI-20491194386939/

        How Nitric Oxide Maintains Health – 2009

        “In the heart, nitric oxide is the body’s way of protecting against cardiovascular disease,” Ignarro said. “The arteries make nitric oxide to lower blood pressure and improve blood flow to organs because it is a vaso-dialator, which means it widens or relaxes the arteries so that more blood can flow through, therefore lowering the pressure within the arterial system.”

        When nitric oxide becomes deficient, Ignarro said, barriers break down and protection is lost, making people more susceptible to high blood pressure, arteriosclerosis and heart disease.

        “It’s the body’s natural way of preventing strokes and heart attacks – provided we make enough of it.”
        http: //www.usc.edu/uscnews/stories/16315.html

        And as you know there’s a great deal more than that small selection.

    • beobrigitte says:

      it just puzzled me why they would run a nation wide study when ‘the science was settled’.
      A VERY good question.
      Perhaps because in REAL science NOTHING is ever settled?

  8. harleyrider1978 says:

    Venezuela congress nixes Maduro request for emergency powers

    CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) — Venezuela’s opposition-led congress on Friday rejected President Nicolas Maduro’s request for emergency powers amid a plunging national economy, the depths of which were dramatized by an IMF estimate that inflation this year will top 700 percent.

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/L/LT_VENEZUELA_ECONOMY?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-01-22-09-20-28

  9. harleyrider1978 says:

    Sugar axe: Food giants vow to cut calories to beat tax… but Coke may stay the same

    Exclusive: Sweetener from food giants before Government levy decision

    Meanwhile, Kellogg’s is vowing to cut 723 tons of sugar next year from cereals such as Frosties and Coco Pops.

    The moves come just days before David Cameron decides whether to press ahead with a controversial sugar levy to help tackle childhood obesity.

    Coca-Cola, which owns a range of soft drinks including Lilt and Sprite, is part of an industry-wide pledge to cut sugar consumption by 20 per cent before 2020.

    But the company — which cut the calories in its drinks by five per cent in 2014 — is only promising another five per cent drop over the next nine years.

    And it is understood the seven teaspoons of sugar currently in the iconic red 330ml Coke can will stay the same.
    Meanwhile, the makers of Lucozade and Ribena are aiming to cut sugar by ten per cent by 2018, and 20 per cent by 2025 or sooner.

    Tizer-maker AG Barr is looking to cut its calorie content by five per cent this year alone.

    Other soft drink giants such as Pepsi and Britvic will also ban TV adverts aimed at children. Billboards near schools will also be axed.

    Smaller sizes and new healthier products are promised.

    Kellogg’s also said yesterday it will remove 723 tons of sugar from all its cereals in 2016 — though it would not specify any proportions.

    Levels in Frosties and Coco Pops are about 35 per cent and it is thought they will aim to get them below 20 per cent.

    TV chef Jamie Oliver has led calls for a sugar tax to tackle childhood obesity — with a 20 per cent levy expected to raise up to £1billion a year.

    No10 advisers are set to circulate a draft of their plans next week.

    One senior soft drink source said: “The health lobby will say we’re not going anywhere near far enough. But if we can cut the nation’s calorie consumption from soft drinks by 20 per cent in five years, surely that’s a win for everyone?”

    Industry bosses claim that 57 per cent of soft drinks sold in Britain are low or no-calorie — despite being “demonised” by the health lobby.

    They also claim soft drinks are only the fifth biggest source of sugar in a family diet, below milk and cream.
    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/6880659/Food-giants-vow-to-cut-calories-to-beat-tax-but-Coke-may-stay-the-same.html

    Resistance is FUTILE signed the Borg

    • harleyrider1978 says:

      Kellogs was a big time supporter of eugenics and prohibition since the 1880s and still is today thru their foundations.

      • harleyrider1978 says:

        Eugenics: the California connection to Nazi policies

        ahrp.org/infomail/03/11/10.php

        Eugenics: the California connection to Nazi policies_SF Chronicle

        Mon, 10 Nov 2003

        On Sunday, Nov 9, the San Francisco Chronicle published an extraordinary, most informative article by Edwin Black, that sheds light on the role played by the American eugenics movement in the Nazi extermination policy. Eugenics is a pseudoscience whose purported aim is to “improve” the human race, while eliminating that portion of the race that eugenicists deem “undesirable.” The article is adapted from Black’s recently released book, “War Against the Weak,” published by Four Walls Eight Windows.

        Black shows that American eugenics played a decisive role in the adoption of racist and even lethal public policies in the US and then in Germany. Black writes: “Eugenics would have been so much bizarre parlor talk had it not been for extensive financing by corporate philanthropies, specifically the Carnegie Institution, the Rockefeller Foundation and the Harriman railroad fortune. They were all in league with some of America’s most respected scientists from such prestigious universities as Stanford, Yale, Harvard and Princeton. These academicians espoused race theory and race science, and then faked and twisted data to serve eugenics’ racist aims.”

        “Stanford President David Starr Jordan originated the notion of “race and blood” in his 1902 racial epistle “Blood of a Nation,” in which the university scholar declared that human qualities and conditions such as talent and poverty were passed through the blood.”

        “The Harriman railroad fortune paid local charities, such as the New York Bureau of Industries and Immigration, to seek out Jewish, Italian and other immigrants in New York and other crowded cities and subject them to deportation, confinement or forced sterilization.”

        The influence of American eugenicists was even more sinister. American eugenicists influenced the Nazi sterilization, experimentation, and extermination policies–including the medical atrocities first conducted on institutionalized disabled human beings–adults and children. What’s more, the scions of American philanthropy financed German eugenicists and actively supported their pseudoscientific research institutes.

        Therefore, no useful discussion about medical and behavioral research ethics can take place without an examination of the American eugenics movement. Yet, American bioethicists have studiously avoided a critical analysis of the eugenics movement, its lethal ideology, and its inevitably lethal “solutions.” By their silence, American bioethics seem to be attesting to the lingering, but covert influence of eugenics within the American healthcare and research community.

        Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory, Long Island, was a eugenics center founded by the Carnegie Institution. Among its activities was the stockpiling of “millions of index cards on ordinary Americans, as researchers carefully plotted the removal of families, bloodlines and whole peoples. From Cold Spring Harbor, eugenics advocates agitated in the legislatures of America, as well as the nation’s social service agencies and associations.”

        • Joe L. says:

          Contemporary Eugenics – only the names have changed. The likes of Bloomberg and Gates have taken the reins from the Carnegies and Rockefellers.

  10. harleyrider1978 says:

    HOWS THIS FOR A WIN

    Grayson County, KY – A student lobbying effort has failed to pass smoking bans. In their attempt to pass them measure statewide, Republican Gov. Matt Bevin said the issues should be decided on a local level not a state level. While locally the Fiscal Court voted against the ban as well. Local Judge Executive Gary Logsdon who is a recipient of a double lung transplant who was against the ban states “Are we going to be a Nanny County or Nanny State.”

    http://thecigarauthority.com/week-in-review-local-legislation/

    AINT KENTUCKY GREAT

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  13. harleyrider1978 says:

    “There are scientific studies that clearly show there’s no safe level of second-hand smoke exposure, including outdoors,” said Kristy McBeth, the health unit’s director of knowledge management. “But it’s not just about the exposure to second-hand smoke. It’s also about the de-normalization of tobacco and smoking.

    http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/a-windsor-city-councillor-has-a-burning-message-for-smokers-butt-out-at-all-city-parks?fb_comment_id=fbc_982063595189702_982388548490540_982388548490540

  14. beobrigitte says:

    Why should I vote for continued membership of a political organisation that treats smokers like me with complete contempt?
    Tobacco control has not thought this far. What’s new?

    Any political organisation which treats member of it’s society with contempt is doomed. Politicians, too, have no long-term thinking ability.

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