Tobacco Control’s Manichaean Universe

I’ve been exploring the enemy’s mindset. Dick Puddlecote on the nanny state:

Yes, of course it’s bollocks, but this is the weird fantasy world these people live in. They really think that poking their nose into what people freely choose to purchase and consume, and trying to stop it, is being kind and generous, whereas the food industry – who make popular products and advertise them – are somehow twisting your arm and frog-marching you down to the shops to buy them.

It’s absurd and a contorted perversion of reality. In the wibbly-wobbly world of the health nag, these evil food barons sit around all day thinking up products to ruin your health for profit, forgetting that no consumer ever bought anything that they didn’t think was in their own self-interest to buy. If the public don’t like the product on offer, they won’t buy it and the business fails, it really is as simple as that; economics and business 101.

Tobacco Control works in a Manichaean universe in which the forces of Good (Tobacco Control) are pitted against the forces of Evil (the Tobacco Industry). The Tobacco Industry is evil because it makes big profits selling its customers a product that will kill most if not all of them. The customers only buy the product because, after being lured in by clever advertising at a very early age, they become totally hooked on it. They become addicts. And as addicts they have been deprived of their free will. Most of them – 70% is the usual figure – want to stop smoking, or would want to stop smoking if they still had any free will. The task of Tobacco Control is to intervene to make or help the powerless smoking addicts stop smoking, recover their free will, and live at least 10 years longer. They can do this because the addicts have lost their free will, and have ceased to be fully human, and don’t have any rights that need to be respected.

That’s roughly how it works. It’s a good-guys-versus-bad-guys vision of life. It’s a black-and-white universe in which there are no shades of grey. Tobacco Control will not even allow that smokers ever enjoy smoking, or that there are any benefits from smoking (in the form of improved concentration, for example).

Climate Control occupies a similar Manichaean universe in which the Oil Industry replaces the Tobacco Industry as the bad guys making profits selling its customers a product that will eventually boil them all alive.

But it’s deeper than this.

The Tobacco Industry and the Oil Industry are not just evil because they’re selling their addicted customers a product that will eventually kill them, but also because they make big profits in the process.  They’re doubly evil. Because making profits is pretty much as evil as killing people. Profit, in their view, is a form of theft. Why else do we have so many Not-For-Profit organisations, whose members only join them in order to wash off a little of the mantle of sinful profit they’ve made as bankers, lawyers, builders, or whatever.

Tobacco Control sometimes doesn’t refer to “the Tobacco Industry” as its enemy, but instead simply “the industry”, and quite often just “industry”.  When it does this, its enemy becomes not just one particular industry, but all industry in general. Tobacco Control is the enemy of any and every profit-making industry. And so is Climate Control. They’re both anti-profit and anti-industry. It’s just that the Tobacco Industry and the Oil Industry are the worst of a bad bunch. Along with the Armaments Industry, of course, which is also selling its addicted customers a product that will kill most of them (if tobacco and global warming haven’t already done so).

New industries are regularly being added to the list of proscribed industries. There’s also the Alcohol Industry. The Sugar Industry. The Meat Industry. The Salt Industry. Sooner or later all industry will join the ranks of the Bad Guys – and that includes the currently-approved Wind and Solar Power Industries, who are also really just selling yet another lethal product (e.g. “bird choppers”) to their addicted customers. Even the Pharma Industry won’t escape.

The economic model underlying both Tobacco Control and Climate Control and Gun Control is one in which, using highly sophisticated advertising techniques, industries only ever sell lethal products to their addicted customers. The economy is simply an arena in which evil scheming profiteers sell a variety of different poisons – guns, tobacco, sugar, meat, etc. – to gullible customers, none of whom really has any need of it at all. Tobacco Control, Climate Control – all the different legions of controllers – occupy the moral high ground by acting as a band of enlightened missionaries opposed to the sale of a variety of lethal products (a form of murder) to addicts (a form of exploitation) for profit (a form of theft) among the depraved native populations .

The only logical conclusion that can be drawn from this economic model is that the very best thing that could happen would be for all industries to be closed down, perhaps by preventing any of them ever advertising their lethal products anywhere. After all, people won’t buy stuff if they don’t know it’s on sale, or have no money.

The Controllers vaguely understand that the result might be the premature death of the greater bulk of humanity, as people run out of sugar, meat, potatoes (yes, they’re addictive too), salt, guns, cars, houses, etc. – but they don’t think that would be such a bad thing, because most of them see the human race as a sort of terrible epidemic on the face of the Earth (aka Gaia), breathing all the air, eating all the food, and covering the Earth with cities and roads and huge piles of garbage. The few thousand survivors of the near-extinction of humanity, now returned to the Stone Age, would probably spend most of their time trying to wipe out the few remaining humans, while forbidding everyone from making and selling each other stone tools.

Yes it’s “a weird fantasy world”. And it’s also an “absurd and a contorted perversion of reality”. It’s completely demented. However did they ever manage to get their heads so far up their arses? And how might their weird fantasy world be dismantled?

 

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29 Responses to Tobacco Control’s Manichaean Universe

  1. harleyrider1978 says:

    Boy what a rough last week! After 4 days I had to give in for a stupid attack I was taking a half at nite to sleep and that causes you to basically keep going thru day 1 over and over again when your cold turkeying it. So he clinic guy I talked to said look if you can take 2 more days youd be past it I said I cant go another day. So he said so that you dont waste what youve already accomlished go to half what you were on si I did at 1.5 a day broken up over 8 hours now. It took 2 days for my body to level out to that dose. Oh its still rough but each time you taper the dose each week expect at least 2 days of sorta withdrawel until your body readjusts to the new level.

    Thats the way to do it if you cant go 4 days without sleep and all the heavy flu like symptons that come with wthdrawel. Im posting this more for peoples own knowledge than for my own support. Dont go near any pain killers if you can keep from it and only for a few weeks max at the lowest dose you can.

    I had no dependecy problem until after the hospital and 4 cracked ribs and busted up sternum from CPR. That took 3-4 months to heal and well you ca imagine the pain…….Thats what got me up to 3 and sometimes 4 a day depending.

    But usually I stayed right at 2-3 a day and while thats a mild dose its still very difficult to break.

    But in 2 weeks I should be down to 1 a day and after that for about a week or so I should be able to drop it comletely without being sick as a dog from a wreched body…….take care and take my words to heart.
    Hell Ive quit smoking several times and never had super flu withdrawels so how in the hell can the nazis claim a smokers an addict! These Nazis are literal Idiots if they cant tell the difference.

    • harleyrider1978 says:

      The reason I posted the above Frank is simply because I now know what true ADDICTION MEANS and how it innocently comes to be.

      Yet and I say again;
      Hell Ive quit smoking several times and never had super flu withdrawels so how in the hell can the nazis claim a smokers an addict! These Nazis are literal Idiots if they cant tell the difference.

  2. harleyrider1978 says:

    And how might their weird fantasy world be dismantled?

    Quite simply its what we would call unsustainable at any level. It will completely fail,riots looting,hoarding…….no government can stand up to that,not one! Even the pharaohs knew the only way to keep the masses from rising up was to have giant graineries around Egypt and anytime one place faced famine they could easily feed those people and stop mass rioting and looting just to eat and live. Yes take mankind down to his barebones animal survival instinct and no government will be standing anywhere,its guaranteed.

  3. harleyrider1978 says:

  4. Roobeedoo2 says:

    ‘However did they ever manage to get their heads so far up their arses?’

    Dunno. Because it’s a comfortable fit?

  5. Lepercolonist says:

    Upon reading Richard Dawkins’ new book: ‘Brief Candle in the Wind’ he referenced the antismoking fanaticism of the esteemed scientist Karl Popper. At a lavish dinner in the late 1970’s, the host offered cigarettes in beautiful little bowls in front of each guest. However, word quickly spread that you are not to smoke in the presence of Karl Popper. In fact, Popper did not want anyone smoking outside and returning with that tobacco smell !

    • Frank Davis says:

      You are quite right, it would appear:

      And with that, my good opinion of Sir Karl Popper shatters. I didn’t know he was such a poisonous little shit.

      But it also tells us something about Richard Dawkins, when he writes: “Nowadays such a plea would not be necessary; it would go without saying”. Not where I live, sugar. And of course he would refer to smokers as “addicts”, wouldn’t he?

      I already think that Richard Dawkins is a poisonous little reptile, however, so there’s nothing much to break.

      And hasn’t it always been “in deference to” antismoking bastards that smokers are asked not to light up? When do antismokers ever act in deference to smokers?

  6. slugbop007 says:

    http://www.drugs.com/news/e-cigarettes-may-contain-chemicals-linked-lung-59321.html?comments=1#comments
    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2214750015300445
    Compare and contrast this article from ‘the team’ at the Harvard School of Public Health with this extensive, comprehensive study from The National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH).

  7. garyk30 says:

    The Tobacco Industry is evil because it makes big profits

    No wonder they love ‘big govtss’, the govts very seldom make a profit.
    But, govts are quite good at accruing debts.

  8. petesquiz says:

    For a long while now I’ve been mystified as to why our media is so piss poor at exposing these lies and failing to challenge the bad science. Having seen these two videos I now have a much better understanding.

    The first is from CBS journalist Sheryl Attkinson, who seems to be one of the ‘good guys’: –
    http://anonhq.com/investigative-journalist-for-cbs-news-exposes-how-mainstream-media-brainwashes-the-public-read-more-httpwww-trueactivist-cominvestigative-journalist-for-cbs-news-exposes-how-mainstream-media-bra/

    The second comes from German journalist Dr. Udo Ulfkotte: –
    http://www.collective-evolution.com/2015/12/03/world-class-journlaist-spills-the-beans-admits-mainstream-media-is-completely-fake/

    As to how we finally break through and expose these deceptions, I have no idea, except to keep chipping away and believe that one day the whole house of cards will come tumbling down.

  9. harleyrider1978 says:

    Remember the smokers paradox study vanderbilt did and showed plavix increased in working better in smokers………..

    Smoking affects life expectancy after acute MI

    The amount of life-years lost decreased for current smokers who were older at the time of acute MI. Current smoking was associated with 1.96 life-years lost at age 65 years and 0.16 life-years lost at age 85 years.

    Due to the marked differences between nonsmokers and current smokers at different ages, the researchers concluded that more research is needed to examine how smoking affects the life expectancy of current smokers who are younger than 65 years at the time of acute MI.

    Seems smoking after a heart attack doesnt really have much to do with life expectancy after all……

    http://www.healio.com/cardiology/vascular-medicine/news/online/%7B9ba9d423-4954-4b8d-90b4-85f56945a6d7%7D/smoking-affects-life-expectancy-after-acute-mi

    Cardiac resuscitation
    The ‘smoker’s paradox’ after in-hospital cardiac arrest
    20 May 2014

    “A retrospective, observational analysis of data from a large US hospital database has shown that smokers have higher rates of survival and lower rates of poor neurological status after in-hospital cardiac arrest (IHCA) than do nonsmokers. This ‘smoker’s paradox’ of improved outcomes has been recognized in patients with acute myocardial infarction for 25 years,”
    http://www.nature.com/nrcardio/journal/v11/n7/full/nrcardio.2014.73.html

    Smoker’s Paradox’ Seen in Cardiac Arrest Data

    “Among patients treated with therapeutic hypothermia after a cardiac arrest, smokers had better outcomes than nonsmokers, a single-center study showed.”

    Half of smokers survived to hospital discharge with a good neurological outcome compared with only 28% of nonsmokers (P=0.003), according to Jeremy Pollock, MD, of Vanderbilt University in Nashville, Tenn., and colleagues.”
    http://www.medpagetoday.com/Cardiology/Arrhythmias/41671

    “Smoker’s Paradox” in Patients Treated for Severe Injuries: Lower Risk of Mortality After Trauma Observed in Current Smokers
    2014

    “Background: Studies evaluating the effect of smoking status on mortality outcomes in trauma patients have been limited, despite the fact that survival benefits of smoking have been reported in other critical care settings. The phenomenon “smoker’s paradox” refers to the observation that following acute cardiovascular events, such as acute myocardial infarction and cardiac arrest, smokers often experience decreased mortality in the hospital setting. The objective of our study was to determine whether smoking imparts a survival benefit in patients with traumatic injuries.”

    Conclusions: Patients who smoke appear to have a much lower risk of in-hospital mortality than nonsmokers. Further investigation into biological mechanisms responsible for this effect should be carried out in order to potentially develop therapeutic applications.”
    http: //ntr.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2015/03/04/ntr.ntv027.abstract

  10. harleyrider1978 says:

    Remember the smokers paradox study Vanderbilt did and showed plavix increased in working better in smokers………..

    The amount of life-years lost decreased for current smokers who were older at the time of acute MI. Current smoking was associated with 1.96 life-years lost at age 65 years and 0.16 life-years lost at age 85 years.

    Due to the marked differences between nonsmokers and current smokers at different ages, the researchers concluded that more research is needed to examine how smoking affects the life expectancy of current smokers who are younger than 65 years at the time of acute MI.

    Seems smoking after a heart attack doesnt really have much to do with life expectancy after all……

    http://www.healio.com/cardiology/vascular-medicine/news/online/%7B9ba9d423-4954-4b8d-90b4-85f56945a6d7%7D/smoking-affects-life-expectancy-after-acute-mi

    • beobrigitte says:

      Due to the marked differences between nonsmokers and current smokers at different ages, the researchers concluded that more research is needed to examine how smoking affects the life expectancy of current smokers who are younger than 65 years at the time of acute MI.

      Male/Female smokers <65 years of age?
      You will find that there are many more males suffering a heart attack than females at the age of e.g. 30 and 40. Oestrogen does have "protective" properties. However, once past the menopause women no longer have the advantage.
      Smoking does not come into it, it hits smokers and non-smokers alike.

      This actually does remind me of not excluding the sports obsessed non-smokers who collapse with heart attacks/strokes etc. when out jogging/running a e.g. marathon. (Andrew Marr being an example that springs to mind)

      Perhaps smokers have more sense and therefore live longer?

  11. harleyrider1978 says:

    Cardiac resuscitation
    The ‘smoker’s paradox’ after in-hospital cardiac arrest
    20 May 2014

    “A retrospective, observational analysis of data from a large US hospital database has shown that smokers have higher rates of survival and lower rates of poor neurological status after in-hospital cardiac arrest (IHCA) than do nonsmokers. This ‘smoker’s paradox’ of improved outcomes has been recognized in patients with acute myocardial infarction for 25 years,”

    Smoker’s Paradox’ Seen in Cardiac Arrest Data

    “Among patients treated with therapeutic hypothermia after a cardiac arrest, smokers had better outcomes than nonsmokers, a single-center study showed.”

    Half of smokers survived to hospital discharge with a good neurological outcome compared with only 28% of nonsmokers (P=0.003), according to Jeremy Pollock, MD, of Vanderbilt University in Nashville, Tenn., and colleagues.”

    “Smoker’s Paradox” in Patients Treated for Severe Injuries: Lower Risk of Mortality After Trauma Observed in Current Smokers
    2014

    “Background: Studies evaluating the effect of smoking status on mortality outcomes in trauma patients have been limited, despite the fact that survival benefits of smoking have been reported in other critical care settings. The phenomenon “smoker’s paradox” refers to the observation that following acute cardiovascular events, such as acute myocardial infarction and cardiac arrest, smokers often experience decreased mortality in the hospital setting. The objective of our study was to determine whether smoking imparts a survival benefit in patients with traumatic injuries.”

    Conclusions: Patients who smoke appear to have a much lower risk of in-hospital mortality than nonsmokers. Further investigation into biological mechanisms responsible for this effect should be carried out in order to potentially develop therapeutic applications.”
    http: //ntr.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2015/03/04/ntr.ntv027.abstract

  12. harleyrider1978 says:

    On April 22, 1988, James Garner had quintuple bypass heart surgery. Though he rapidly recovered, the doctors insisted that he stop smoking. Garner complied—17 years later.

    http://military.wikia.com/wiki/James_Garner

    • harleyrider1978 says:

      No wonder the Doc who was an ass told me if your gonna smoke you need plavix your whole life………..ok doc I done got use to it!

      • harleyrider1978 says:

        Plavix in smokers after 1 year worked 33% better than in non smokers. Meaning Plavix is good for smokers and not so good for nons after 1 year. The VA veterans administration will only give a veteran a 1 year supply and that’s it……….They know hoe good Plavix is if your a smoker,so they in their infinite god like stature said fuck you if your gonna keep on smoking………Yes it was Obamas VA appointees who made that decision.

        • harleyrider1978 says:

          My brother has had 2 stents for 14 years and smokes 2 packs a day,from the day he left the hospital……….Isnt having a history of proven record nice to know.

        • harleyrider1978 says:

          Current smoking after acute MI was associated with increased mortality at 5 years and at 17 years, researchers reported in Heart.

          In previous studies, patients with acute MI who are smokers tended to have a lower mortality rate compared with nonsmokers, but only within the first 5 years after acute MI. Over a longer period, smoking was found to increase mortality.

          Sounds like somebody cant make sense out of their own propaganda ehh!

  13. harleyrider1978 says:

    Audrey Silk‎ to NYC Citizens Lobbying Against Smoker Harassment (C.L.A.S.H.)

    8 hrs
    .

    Dateline: West Virginia. Sometimes the gods are with us. I hate this word but it fits. The word is “delicious,” as in this is delicious:

    “[The Preston County Commissioners said], ‘If the proposed changes to the Smoking Ordinance are enacted it could potentially affect the County Commission’s relationship with the Health Department and could potentially affect funding the County Commission.’

    “’I’m not for funding something that we are opposed to,’ Commission President Criag Jennings said ‘I don’t want to be here and help them (Board of Health) fund something that I’ve not had one person come to me and say, ‘boy I wish you guys would do that smoking ban.’”

    Heeheeheeheehee

    http://www.theet.com/prestoncountyjournal/news/county-commission-officially-oppose-proposed-smoking-ban-jennings-i-m/article_3c81d6a7-89d0-5bd1-834a-d1583c9abdd3.html

    County Commission officially oppose proposed smoking ban, Jennings: ‘I’m not for funding something that we are opposed to”

  14. Smoking Lamp says:

    Well, the tobacco control bandwagon keeps rolling on. Today they secured a smoking ban i Romania where 28% of the population smokes. It’s time to roll back these bans. Tobacco control propaganda needs to be contained then eradicated.

    • beobrigitte says:

      The simplest way might well be to highlight WHO financed this nonsense “research” which allows Tobacco Control to gain control over governments.
      I begin to believe that politicians are just gullible gob-shites.

  15. harleyrider1978 says:

  16. beobrigitte says:

    Tobacco Control works in a Manichaean universe in which the forces of Good (Tobacco Control) are pitted against the forces of Evil (the Tobacco Industry). The Tobacco Industry is evil because it makes big profits selling its customers a product that will kill most if not all of them.
    Isn’t it a rather simplistic universe? Worse even, common sense does not exist there.

    The task of Tobacco Control is to intervene to make or help the powerless smoking addicts stop smoking, recover their free will, and live at least 10 years longer.
    Poor Ex-Bundeskanzler Helmut Schmidt died 10 years prematurely at the age of 96 due to virtually life-long smoking?
    Free will….. Am I the only one who, back in the 70s and 80s, didn’t think much about smoking as it was nothing important? Once I had reached the age of 16 when I could legally smoke, it lost it’s “magic” somehow. Most of the time I CHOSE not to smoke because I knew I could light up whenever I wanted.
    Tobacco Control has succeeded to make SMOKING IMPORTANT. I now have a second cigarette to make as many people as possible see that I still smoke. It’s a good way of conveying the message that health scare nonsense doesn’t work with me.

    New industries are regularly being added to the list of proscribed industries. There’s also the Alcohol Industry. The Sugar Industry. The Meat Industry. The Salt Industry. Sooner or later all industry will join the ranks of the Bad Guys – and that includes the currently-approved Wind and Solar Power Industries, who are also really just selling yet another lethal product (e.g. “bird choppers”) to their addicted customers. Even the Pharma Industry won’t escape.
    Looks like Big Pharma has made “a mistake”
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35090087
    The court said the UK-based Reckitt Benckiser had misled consumers.
    Perhaps it’s a case of ‘too-much-weight-at-the-top-makes-the-base-crumble’?
    Tobacco Control has misled governments!!!

    Yes it’s “a weird fantasy world”. And it’s also an “absurd and a contorted perversion of reality”. It’s completely demented. However did they ever manage to get their heads so far up their arses?
    Perhaps they can’t see enough of the sh*t they produce?
    My guess is that their eagerness will be the proverbial noose around their necks.

  17. RdM says:

    It’s a black-and-white universe in which there are no shades of grey.
    […]
    Climate Control occupies a similar Manichaean universe in which the Oil Industry replaces the Tobacco Industry

    Tobacco conflated with Tar
    http://avax.news/fact/Tar_Figures_Illustrate_Anti-Smoking_Message_In_Sydney.html

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