Another “Logical Evolution”

Via a comment by Roobeedoo:

Nonsmokers will have a bylaw to back them up when they ask smokers to butt out in parks and outside civic facilities starting next spring.

They won’t, however, be able to summon a bylaw officer.

Council voted 7-2 in favour of a bylaw amendment Tuesday prohibiting smoking and “vaping” of e-cigarettes in all City parks and on civic building properties.

“This is a logical evolution of where we have been with other smoking legislation from the City of Kamloops,” said Coun. Ken Christian, noting that it will reduce exposure to second-hand smoke, reduce the modelled behaviour of smoking and “de-normalize” tobacco use in the city.

He also said it’s important to send a message as Ottawa considers decriminalizing marijuana use.

“Some smokers may feel like we’re pushing them farther and farther into the woods, and fair enough,” said Coun. Arjun Singh. “I do believe people will comply and, hopefully, more people will be encouraged to give it up.”

Via Harley, another “logical evolution”:

A Waffle House customer shot and killed an employee after she told him to put out a cigarette at the U.S. 90 business in the early-morning hours Friday, police said.

Biloxi police Sgt. Donnie Dobbs said the 52-year-old employee was shot in the head after arguing with the customer about smoking inside the restaurant around 1 a.m. Friday.

The employee, who has not been identified pending notification of next of kin, died at Merit Health Biloxi a short time later. She had a suffered a single gunshot wound to the head.

What else is to be expected when one part of a society is set upon by another?

The War on Smoking is going to claim a lot of casualties.

And this is all supposed to be about health?

In other news, the West seems to be backing away from Recep Erdogan:

Lt. General Tom McInerney is an expert on handling threats from fighter jets….

In his role as Norad commander for Alaska, McInerney dealt with more Russian fighter jet incursions (which he calls “bear penetrations”) than anyone else in the world.

So McInerney knows how to tell innocent from hostile incursions by foreign fighter jets, standard rules of engagement of foreign fighter jets, how to read radar tracks, and the other things he would need to know to form an informed opinion about the shootdown of a foreign jet.

Yesterday, McInerney told Fox News – much to the surprise of the reporter interviewing him – that assuming the Turkish version of the flight path of the Russian jet is accurate, Russia wasn’t threatening Turkey, and that Turkey’s shoot down of the Russian jet “had to be pre-planned”, as the jet wasn’t in Turkish air space long enough for anything other than a premeditated attack to have brought it down.

That’s what the Russians are saying too. And what I was pretty much saying as well.


Juncker warned that the euro is pointless if people can’t move around freely to use it.

“If the spirit of Schengen leaves us … we’ll lose more than the Schengen agreement. A single currency doesn’t make sense if Schengen fails,” Juncker told the parliamentarians.


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26 Responses to Another “Logical Evolution”

  1. junican says:

    I think that there is a fair amount of evidence that the Single Currency has already failed. I wonder if it would be true to say that Greece has been hindered in taking advantage of its pre-eminent industry, tourism, as a result of being tied to the Euro? I would have thought that the ‘value’ of the Euro would be tied to economic performances, averaged out over the whole euro zone. Strong and diverse economies, like Germany’s, would be favoured. No amount of ‘assistance’ would help, if it is in the form of loans which have to be repaid and interest paid upon them according to a schedule. Grants are the only reasonable way to balance the economies, but they are notoriously open to corruption. Also, where do you stop? Would every poor country be able to demand a grant? And how long would it be before the German people started to complain when their living standards start to drop to the level of ‘the average’ throughout the EU?
    The UK opted out of Schenegen. Have any of us suffered because we have to show a passport? In an ideal world, Schenegen would be lovely, but its weaknesses have been revealed in the last few weeks. Reality and theory diverge, and, as time passes, they diverge more and more.

  2. harleyrider1978 says:

    I can tell you this the entire story above is wrong!

    I just got off the phone with a man who claimed to be the wafflehouse vice president and dbelow is what he told me.

    The man supposedly entered the restaurant and asked the waitress for a cigarette and when she said she didn’t have any,he supposedly pulled the gun and shot her.

    Now the media is making a circus out of it over smoking. This sounds like a mental case that was loose. But as yet no background has been released on him or her. There were 5 employees supposedly there when it went down. I know this as the VP of WH just told me this. Unless the media has testimony from any of these witnesses to counter what I was just told its nothing more than a insane case of murder over nothing.

    But one thing is for sure its showing just how hot the smoking ban issue has gotton and just why it all should be repealed and quit creating hate between people who choose to smoke or not or want to be gay married or not or whatever their lifestyle choise is. This fanatical progressive push to create a criminal class backed by government endorsement has gone to far now and we see it in the media frenzy going on right now,Even attacking gun owners to boot………….this is what obamas world of progressivism has brought us too!

    • harleyrider1978 says:

      Waffle House worker shot dead over smoking ban, TV station says

      The above I posted on NOLA several minutes ago. We can thank NOLA and all the local media down there turning it into a smoking ban issue. Its just that hot they wanted a smoker to be guilty of murder over a supposed non smoker. That’s why they jumped at the headlines and made it an all day circus. The VP called me at 7;39 pm is now 837. here.

      • harleyrider1978 says:

        Frank I posted wayne Williams story on NOLA to counter the smoker murdering a non with a non smoker murdering a smoker. that’s fair and balnced I thought plus I thru in the graveyard.

        • harleyrider1978 says:

          Itold the man lastnite he should make a staement to the press aboutwhat actually went down according to what he told me and he flat refused to even consider it. Its now looking like wafflehouses non smokingpolicy is what actually caused the shooting to happen when this woman attacked the man for smoking. Theres been no reports that this isnt the way it happened.

          The man never gave me his name lastnite either just saying he was the VP and had been with WH for 15 years. When I know the VP of WH operations is a whiteman,this man was black I talked with lastnite

          So it appears to me WH wants this to appear to be about bumming a smoke to protect their decision for non smoking from becoming the issue.

        • Frank Davis says:

          Drudge is carrying the original story that the man was smoking.

    • Frank Davis says:

      Well I guess we’ll have to wait and see what story finally emerges. But as you say, it shows how hot this issue is getting.

      • harleyrider1978 says:

        BTW all they did was wipe up the blood and brains then reopened.

        • harleyrider1978 says:

          This story has gone VIRAL across the net and the newspapers. Lets hope it has the same effect as the St Valentines day Massacre had on prohibition as it was the turning point that led to moral outrage over prohibition and led to its ultimate demise a few years later.

      • harleyrider1978 says:

        Drudge is carrying the original witness has already stated the man was already smoking so the VP is obviously LYING to protect his companies anti smoking policy, with a lie about the shooter wanting to BUM smoke.

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  5. garyk30 says:

    Turkey claims the Russian jet was warned 5 times.

    Unless the Turks were doing the ordering in Russian or the Russian pilot spoke Turkish, the warnings would have gone without being understood.

    • The Blocked Dwarf says:

      One assumes the warnings, if warnings there were, were given in English. Fluency in English is pretty much a prerequisite of being allowed to fly a plane..being the universal language of control towers etc.

    • Cecily Collingridge says:

      As Blocked Dwarf says, a common language is used internationally in the aviation world. What might account for the discrepancy perhaps, is if the pilots were not tuned to the same comms channel. The Russians may have been tuned to the frequency of whatever air traffic control area they were operating under or used to coordinate with the US/other military active parties – this may be different from that used by the Turkish air force. So both sides might be right. This is pure speculation on my part though.

  6. harleyrider1978 says:

    A shooting inside a Biloxi, Mississippi Waffle House left one employee dead. The shooting occurred around 1 a.m. Friday morning just after a Waffle House server asked a customer to put out a cigarette.

    In a previous Inquisitr report, the suspect in the Waffle House shooting was identified as Johnny Max Mount, 45, of Biloxi. The name of 52-year-old female victim has not yet been released pending family notification.

    Near the Mississippi Coast Coliseum on Highway 90, Mount entered a Waffle House restaurant. According to witnesses, Mount began arguing with a waitress, only identified as “Julie,” over the restaurant’s no smoking policy.

    Immediately after the dispute, Mount pulled out a 9 mm handgun hidden under his shirt and shot the employee point blank in the head. The server was quickly transported to Merit Health Biloxi where she later died.

    According to a Sun Herald report, Mount was arrested just outside the Waffle House. He is in custody at the Harrison County jail, accused of first-degree murder. His bond is set at $2 million.

    “The suspect was arrested on the scene. When officers arrived, he was still on scene and was taken into custody,” said Sgt. Donnie Dobbs of the Biloxi Police Department.

    John Lestrade was at the Biloxi restaurant when the shooting occurred and questions if the smoking ban is the cause.

    “The good, the bad, the ugly of it all is that you know, the individual getting all upset about smoking there’s a lot of tension in the air. You’ve got to practice your attitude… You’ve got to be cautious. Watch how you approach people, watch how they approach you.”

    KAIT 8 reports that some Waffle House locations do allow smoking inside, yet, this one does not. The restaurant chain does have a company-wide ban on firearms, unless you are an active member of law enforcement or the military.

    Pat Warner, vice president of Waffle House’s headquarters in Atlanta, was shocked by the tragedy. According to Warner, the server was with the company for the last eight years and she was loved by both customers and co-workers.

    As soon as the news of the shooting reached the corporate office, several employees rushed to Biloxi to help out. Associates who work at the Gulf Coast location were given the option to stay home if they wished.

    “We have lined up some grief counseling for the employees as well,” Warner said. “We are going to help the employees any way we can. We are giving them space right now.”

    Outraged over the shooting, many people expressed their emotions via social media.

    Local resident, Rebecca Berry, said she knows Johnny Mount and his family. She commented that Mount is not really a bad person, but suffered a traumatic brain injury several years ago. She thinks maybe that is why he “just snapped” and reacted so violently.

    Berry heard the news of the shooting later on Friday while shopping and was stunned that she knew the name of the perpetrator. She spoke with Mount family members, including Johnny’s mother, and they are distraught over the incident.

    Coincidentally, Berry was with her family the day before on Thanksgiving Day at the Waffle House where the shooting happened. She said “Julie” happened to be their server and they engaged in an upbeat conversation about holiday shopping.

    Although shootings like this do not happen very often at Waffle House, Biloxi police have experienced them in the past.

    Gunfire erupted at a different South Mississippi Waffle House in May of 2013. A man walked into the restaurant on Reynoir St in Biloxi and got into an altercation with two other men. A gun was pulled out and aimed at one of them. A shot rang out after the man was tackled to the ground by another customer. Fortunately, no one was hurt or killed during the incident.

    After the shooting on Friday, the Waffle House on Highway 90 was closed for several hours while investigators gathered evidence. Biloxi police are still investigating the incident, however, the restaurant has since opened back up and is again serving customers.

  7. harleyrider1978 says:

    John Lestrade was at the Biloxi restaurant when the shooting occurred and questions if the smoking ban is the cause.

    “The good, the bad, the ugly of it all is that you know, the individual getting all upset about smoking there’s a lot of tension in the air. You’ve got to practice your attitude… You’ve got to be cautious. Watch how you approach people, watch how they approach you.”

    KAIT 8 reports that some Waffle House locations do allow smoking inside, yet, this one does not. The restaurant chain does have a company-wide ban on firearms, unless you are an active member of law enforcement or the military.

  8. Joe L. says:

    This Waffle House incident is a progressive’s wet dream. I predict it won’t be long until we’re inundated with purported statistics linking tobacco use and gun violence.

    • harleyrider1978 says:

      Joe that would be Bloombergs junk science school of epidemiology at johns Hopkins specialty. He bought it for a cool Billion.

      Bloomberg donated 1 billion dollars to john Hopkins and that’s where all the JUNK SCIENCE to support bloombergs nanny state policies comes from like last years anti-gun violence study Owebama used after the sandyhook shooting took place…….

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  9. Timothy Goodacre says:

    Don’t obey any rules on not smoking in parks. They are our parks and can’t be taken away from us. I certainly will ignore any silly such bylaws passed by knobhead councillors.

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