Upside Down

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Warmist Prof. Alice Bows-Larkin calls for ‘planned recessions’ to fight ‘global warming’: ‘Economic growth needs to be exchanged’ for ‘planned austerity’ – ‘Whole system change’

For most of my life, I’ve had pundits telling me that we need to ‘kickstart the economy’ and ‘boost economic growth’. Now there are people telling me the opposite.

I suppose that it makes sense in our upside-down contemporary world that belief in economic growth should be replaced by belief in economic austerity. It sort of fits in with no smoking, no drinking, no eating, austerity thing.

But listening to Prof Alice for about half a minute (I could stand no more) I got the strong impression that she was trying to persuade them to welcome austerity. We should not only become poor, but we should want to become poor. We should not only live in tin shacks, but we should want to live in tin shacks.

And I suppose that once you’ve persuaded people to want to stop smoking and drinking and eating chocolate cream cakes, you’re next going to try to persuade them to want to give up their wealth and their comfort, and their car, and their TV set, and their freezer, and their washing machine.

No, not their TV set. That’s where all the ‘public education’ comes from. The TV set must remain, even as the brick house becomes a corrugated iron shed, with no heating or lighting.

Perhaps they’ll have a new variant of those reality TV shows to accompany the process, where people compete to give everything they own to, say, an illegal Syrian immigrant family and their donkey. And you’ll see people giving away their car and house keys to rapturous applause from the studio audience. It would be fronted by someone like Bob Geldof, calling for participants to give even more when they’ve already given away everything.

Or, since they want to return to the Stone Age, have shows giving expert advice on how to make flint axes.

Well, in an upside-down world in which all values have been inverted, why not? Why stop at beer and cigarettes? Why not turn absolutely everything upside down?

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30 Responses to Upside Down

  1. harleyrider1978 says:

    So she wnts to cause a worldwide depression,or already knows its coming and is cashing in on it early on………….

  2. harleyrider1978 says:

    Take the first paragraph they admit its nothing more than FEAR TACTICS being employed, basically stated its an omission they have always lied about harm from smoking.

    The potential of shame as a message appeal in antismoking television advertisements

    “To date, more commonly used messages have included fear appeals relating to physical health”

    Abstract

    Background As smoking is increasingly de-normalised, different messages may become more appropriate for use in tobacco control advertisements to reflect the changing social environment. To date, more commonly used messages have included fear appeals relating to physical health and guilt appeals focusing on the effects of smoking on loved ones.
    .

    The Vetting – Holder 1995: We Must ‘Brainwash’ People on Guns like we did on cigarettes

    Breitbart has uncovered video from 1995 of then-U.S. Attorney Eric Holder announcing a public campaign to “really brainwash people into thinking about guns in a vastly different way.”
    Holder was addressing the Woman’s National Democratic Club. In his remarks, broadcast by CSPAN 2, he explained that he intended to use anti-smoking campaigns as his model to “change the hearts and minds of people in Washington, DC” about guns.

  3. jaxthefirst says:

    One of the most worrying facets of the whole control-freakery which passes for “the authorities” these days is the fact that they just aren’t content with forcing us to behave just like them – they have to insist that whilst we do it at the same time we put on a darned good impression of enjoying it, too. They remind me a lot of those copies of The Watchtower that the Jehovah’s Witnesses shove through your letterbox from time to time, where everyone, it seems, is either laughing rather hysterically, or smiling cheesily because they’ve Got God On Their Side.

    It’s a bit odd, really, when you think about it – these people spend their whole lives metaphorically beating people into a pulp with endless edicts and instructions and laws and guidelines and campaigns to force them into doing a whole host of things that they don’t like, don’t enjoy and would rather not do (whether that’s giving up something they enjoy, like smoking or drinking, or doing something that they don’t enjoy, like exercise or forcing uninspiring food down their necks) without the slightest regard for the fact that these things, combined, vastly diminish people’s enjoyment of their own lives, and yet they seem to have this strange desire for all those people to Be Happy Under All Circumstances. It’s almost as if they actually have a conscience (which, of course, we all know they don’t), and need that conscience salved in some way by forcing their victims to plaster artificial smiles on their faces so that they (the authorities) can feel happy in their own minds that they haven’t upset people at all …..

    It’s always been a very strange facet of the control freaks that I’ve not been able to understand. After all, if you’ve decided to make a career out of being a b*stard to everyone else, then surely it would be more successful to come straight out and say so, rather than weedily hiding behind the rather feeble disguise of “but we just want to make people happy …” In fact, I think it’s this hypocrisy which makes be despise these people, and their minion followers, most of all.

  4. waltc says:

    Jax, they believe Virtue Is Its Own Reward.

    • harleyrider1978 says:

      Their so called Virtue is the biggest sin of all.

      • Ed says:

        Ah, but it’s always been good for us to suffer…

        “Jesus Christ, when He redeemed us with plentiful redemption, took not away the pains and sorrows which in such large proportion are woven together in the web of our mortal life. He transformed them into motives of virtue and occasions of merit; and no man can hope for eternal reward unless he follow in the blood-stained footprints of his Saviour. “If we suffer with Him, we shall also reign with Him.”(7)

        Christ’s labors and sufferings, accepted of His own free will, have marvellously sweetened all suffering and all labor. And not only by His example, but by His grace and by the hope held forth of everlasting recompense, has He made pain and grief more easy to endure; “for that which is at present momentary and light of our tribulation, worketh for us above measure exceedingly an eternal weight of glory.”(8)

        …the grand Christian dogma on which religion rests as on its foundation – that, when we have given up this present life, then shall we really begin to live. God has not created us for the perishable and transitory things of earth, but for things heavenly and everlasting; He has given us this world as a place of exile…

        …the other pains and hardships of life will have no end or cessation on earth; for the consequences of sin are bitter and hard to bear, and they must accompany man so long as life lasts. To suffer and to endure, therefore, is the lot of humanity; let them strive as they may, no strength and no artifice will ever succeed in banishing from human life the ills and troubles which beset it. If any there are who pretend differently – who hold out to a hard-pressed people the boon of freedom from pain and trouble, an undisturbed repose, and constant enjoyment – they delude the people.

        – Pope Leo XIII, Rerum Novarum (of revolutionary change) May 15, 1891

        http://w2.vatican.va/content/leo-xiii/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_l-xiii_enc_15051891_rerum-novarum.html

        And nothing seems to have changed. So, you know, they’re only doing their jobs and “helping” us by making sure we all suffer

        • harleyrider1978 says:

          Your only problem with the quote is Rev. Billy Sunday was tossed under the bridge after all the prohibiton movements collapsed first one to get repealed was smoking bans aka 1917……….

          1917: SMOKEFREE: Tobacco control laws have fallen, including smoking bans in numerous cities, and the states of Arkansas, Iowa, Idaho and Tennessee.

          Then came the repeal of alcohol prohibition by 1933!

          Then the prohibitionists after begging on 1930s newsreels for forgiveness for they had done to the country went on not to repent but to toss away the bible for white labcoats and invent epidemiology to be their new weapon of choise aka ”JUNK SCIENCE”

          These new entities were funded by the same old realm of elite prohibitionists like Rockefellor and his ilk that created the ACS ALA AHA………….Bigger pharma fish also got in on the playground to rebuild their prohibitionist agenda,like the wellman group in the UK and the Johnson family in America. Oh they used their endowments wisely and even paid for college for the next generations politicians shaping and molding them for the day when prohibition could be arisen from the dead while still claiming to be angels of mercy like last time!

        • harleyrider1978 says:

          Rockefeller also created the American Cancer Society, the American Heart Foundation, and the American Lung Association in this eugenics framework)

          Antismoking is not new. It has a long, sordid history. The three antismoking crusades of the last century have been eugenics-driven. In eugenics, health is erroneously reduced to an entirely biological phenomenon and where a self-installed elite attempt to engineer/breed a “better” human herd. In addition to a genetic aspect, eugenics views tobacco and alcohol as racial poisons needing to be eradicated (negative eugenics). Antismoking was rife in early-1900s USA. Smoking and tobacco sales were banned in quite a number of American states.

          Dillow (1981) notes that the bulk of antismoking claims were fraudulent and inflammatory. Dillow fails to note that the antismoking crusade of the early-1900s USA was eugenics-driven: Eugenics was mainstream in the USA at this time. At the turn of the last century, eugenics was mainstream in the USA, the UK, some European countries, and a number of Scandinavian countries. The USA appears to be the most prominent. The mega-wealthy in the USA (e.g., Rockefeller, Carnegie, Ford, Kellogg) were supporters and funders of eugenics (and antismoking, anti-alcohol) – and still are.

  5. Lepercolonist says:

    There is a glut of oil in the world now. Price is down to $52 a barrel. Here in the U.S. we will become a net exporter of energy by 2020 ( due to horizontal fracking). All these fearful projections from 5 years ago are no longer applicable. We have a surplus of natural gas (clean energy). Prof. Alice Bows-Larkin is out of the loop.

    • nisakiman says:

      That’s an inconvenient truth that they choose to ignore, just as they ignore the fact that the world isn’t warming, and just as they ignore the fact that as less people are smoking, more people are getting LC. These people live in a parallel universe, and their ideology is their only guidance.

      • harleyrider1978 says:

        Their utopian hell only has a political life of so many years then it collapses…….get ready it cant be far off now

        • Ed says:

          Good points above re, eugenics, Harley!

          My basic point was, and it applies to eugenics as well, is that they hold the view that there is a social order. A natural hierarchy which boils down to two distinct classes; the rich elites and nobility, and everyone else- the workers/slaves. They have held this view for centuries and still cling to it. Their version of “natural law” is themselves as rulers and everyone else as slaves.

          “It is not true that all have equal rights in civil society. It is not true that there exists no lawful social hierarchy.

          …a sound prosperity is to be restored according to the true principles of a sane co-operative system which respects the proper hierarchic structure of society”

          – Pope Pius XI DIVINI REDEMPTORIS (On Atheistic Communism) 19 March 1937

          http://w2.vatican.va/content/pius-xi/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-xi_enc_19031937_divini-redemptoris.html

          Eugenicists hold a similar philosophy, so we have ridiculous articles like this on BBC news, where humanity will eventually split into two distinct species.;

          http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6057734.stm

          Oh wouldn’t they just love that!

        • nisakiman says:

          Eugenicists hold a similar philosophy, so we have ridiculous articles like this on BBC news, where humanity will eventually split into two distinct species

          The Eloi and the Morlocks, perhaps?

  6. Rose says:

    a corrugated iron shed , Frank?

    Where are we supposed to get that in the future?
    Imagine the CO2 emissions emitted in creating a sheet of corrugated iron.

    Surely you mean wattle and daub.

    “it is commonly thought that if modern humans could emulate pre-industrial or even pre-agricultural lifestyles, that atherosclerosis would be avoided.”
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-21739193

    Here’s how to do it.

    “In moderate, sheltered conditions and if well maintained, a wattle and daub panel should last indefinitely. Examples of 700 years old are known to exist.”
    http://www.buildingconservation.com/articles/wattleanddaub/wattleanddaub.htm

    We should take the opportunity to familiarise ourselves with all these ancient skills while we are still allowed electricity to power our computers.

    Electricity can kill, you know.

  7. malagabay says:

    jaxthefirst: “In fact, I think it’s this hypocrisy which makes be despise these people, and their minion followers, most of all”.

    Since 1939 its been one long cavalcade of caring where the show must go on [at all costs] so that the Brits can pretend they are improving their damp, drab, miserable and monotonous lives of sprawling urban servitude.

    Life in Britain was so much fun they invented Music While You Work in 1940 and jollied things along with Workers’ Playtime in 1941.

    Music While You Work was a daytime radio programme of continuous live popular music broadcast in the United Kingdom twice daily on workdays from June 1940 until September 1967 by the BBC, initially in the Forces / General Forces Programme, and after the war in the BBC Light Programme and, in the mornings, on the BBC Home Service.

    The programme began in World War II. By playing non-stop popular / light music at an even tempo it aimed to help factory workers become more productive.

    For a period, a third edition was broadcast in the late evening for night-shift workers.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_While_You_Work

    Workers’ Playtime was a British radio variety programme transmitted by the BBC between 1941 and 1964.

    Originally intended as a morale-booster for industrial workers in Britain during World War II, the programme was broadcast at lunchtime, three times a week, live from a factory canteen “somewhere in Britain”, initially on the BBC Home Service (now Radio 4) and, from 1957, on the Light Programme (now Radio 2). For all its 23 years each show concluded with the words from the show’s producer, Bill Gates: “Good luck, all workers!”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workers'_Playtime_%28radio_programme%29

    Life in Britain has clearly improved since 1951 because, after 64 years, the cavalcade of caringhas finally liberated The Archers from being “an everyday story of country folk” to the hallowed heights of “contemporary drama in a rural setting”.

    The Archers is a long-running British radio soap opera broadcast on the BBC’s main spoken-word channel, Radio 4.

    Originally billed as “an everyday story of country folk”, it is now described as “contemporary drama in a rural setting”.

    With over 17,750 episodes, it is the world’s longest-running radio soap opera production.

    The Archers, which debuted on 1 January 1951 (with the pilot premiering in 1950), is the most listened to Radio 4 non-news programme, with over five million listeners, and, with over one million listeners via the Internet, the programme holds that BBC Radio record.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Archers

    Life in Britain has also clearly improved since the swinging sixties because Coronation Street [see episode two – below] demonstrates the cavalcade of caring has managed to advance civilisation to the point where its no long illegal to sell perishable and non-perishable goods after seven o’clock in the evening.

    Coronation Street (informally known as Corrie) is a British soap opera created by Granada Television and shown on ITV since 1960.

    The programme centres on Coronation Street in Weatherfield, a fictional town based on Salford, its terraced houses, café, corner shop, newsagents, textile factory and The Rovers Return pub.

    The fictional street was built in the early 1900s and named in honour of the coronation of King Edward VII.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronation_Street

    However, Hi-de-Hi! [from the 1980s] seems to encapsulate the ethos of Britain where a lick of [tacky and forever peeling] brightly coloured paint can convince people that its fun to live in a labour camp controlled by a cavalcade of caring staffed by “struggling actors or has-beens” who are “attempting to scam the campers”.

    Hi-de-Hi! is a BBC television sitcom shown on BBC1 from 1980 to 1988.

    The location is Maplins, a fictional holiday camp, during 1959 through to the early 1960s.

    It was written by Jimmy Perry and David Croft, who also wrote Dad’s Army and It Ain’t Half Hot Mum amongst others.

    The title was the greeting the campers heard and in early episodes was written Hi de Hi.

    The series revolved around the lives of the camp’s management and entertainers, most of them struggling actors or has-beens.

    The job of Camp Comic is given to the naive but kind-hearted Spike Dixon who wants an introduction to the world of show business.

    Many episodes involve Ted Bovis attempting to scam the campers as well as the well-meaning Fairbrother, who also has to avoid the romantic approaches of the chief Yellowcoat and Sports Organiser, Gladys Pugh.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hi-de-Hi!

    From the end of the war, through the 1950s and into the early 1960s the holiday camp industry thrived.

    By 1964, Warner had 14 camps across the country, Butlin opened his 10th camp in 1966, and Pontin had expanded into providing trips to Mediterranean locations in 1963.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holiday_camp

    The cavalcade of caring is so engrained in the British psyche that people interpret Have a Nice Day as an order.

    Have a nice day is a commonly spoken expression used to conclude a conversation (whether brief or extensive), or end a message by hoping the person to whom it is addressed experiences a pleasant day.

    Europeans generally feel the phrase “have a nice day” is fake and that the speaker is solely interacting with the listener for business purposes.

    It is generally not used in the United Kingdom.

    The phrase “have a nice day” spread to Britain from the United States.

    In Britain, the variants “have a fine day” and “have a good day” are frequently used in place of “have a nice day”.

    British customers generally consider it to be obnoxious and overbearing, instead usually preferring the gentler expression “enjoy the rest of your afternoon”.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Have_a_nice_day#In_Europe

    The really sad part is that the cavalcade of caring has reduced Britain to nation that meekly mumbles Musn’t grumble.

    Musn’t grumble, dont worry ’bout nothing my friend
    Musn’t grumble, ‘cos all’s well thats well in the end
    Musn’t grumble, you grumble and your on your own
    Laugh and the world laughs with ya, cry and you’ll cry all alone
    Laugh and the world laughs with ya, musn’t grumble

    Mustn’t Grumble (Hodges/Peacock) ©Snout Music 1982
    http://www.chasndave.net/lyrics/mustnt-grumble

    Have a Nice Mumble!

  8. harleyrider1978 says:

    Obamacare levies fines on non-profit hospitals that offer free healthcare to the poor

    It’s one of the lesser-known provisions in the so-called “Affordable” Care Act, but it’s having a major impact on charitable hospitals. Obamacare actually fines hospitals…

    http://poorrichardsnews.com/post/64309797136/obamacare-levies-fines-on-non-profit-hospitals-that

  9. garyk30 says:

    You first Alice and then the rest of us can decide for ourselves. :)

  10. harleyrider1978 says:

    Australia to Consider Smoking Ban Expansion
    The proposed new smoke-free areas include childcare centers, youth sporting events, eldercare facilities, bus stops and public pools.
    October 21, 2015

    Page Content
    ​CANBERRA – The Australian Parliament will look at legislation to increase the number of locations where smoking is banned, the Brisbane Times reports. Health Minister Cameron Dick has plans to introduce the bill in November during the last sitting of the governmental body for the year.

    New smoke-free zones will include bus stops, childcare centers, children’s sporting events, eldercare facilities, pedestrian precincts next to state government offices and public pools. The legislation also would ban smoking in designated outdoor areas on Parliament House balconies.

    “If we are going to be a government that stands by our decisions about smoking outside government buildings, then parliament house needs to reflect that as well,” said Annastacia Palaszczuk, an Australian politician and current Premier of Queensland. “I know some people are going to be upset.”

    Meanwhile, Australia has been fighting a growing tide of illegal tobacco shipments. Last week, the Australian Border Force (ABF) recovered thelargest shipment of illegal tobacco (more than 70 tons) ever seized in a single operation Down Under. The cache would have brought in millions on the black market.

    http://www.nacsonline.com/News/Daily/Pages/ND1021154.aspx

  11. garyk30 says:

    The World has enough ‘austerity’.

    Some 1.1 billion people have inadequate access to water, and 2.6 billion lack basic sanitation.

    1 billion (every second child) live in poverty.
    Approximately 790 million people in the developing world are still chronically undernourished

    Access to electricity

    Worldwide 1.3 billion people – a population equivalent to that of the entire OECD – continue to live without access to electricity. This is equivalent to 18% of the global population.

    Traditional use of solid biomass for cooking

    Nearly 2.7 billion people – almost 40% of the world population and about half of those living in developing countries – rely on the traditional use of biomass for cooking, an increase of 38 million compared with last year.

    In sub-Saharan Africa, over 80 percent of the population depends on traditional biomass for cooking, as do over half of the populations of India and China.

    • harleyrider1978 says:

      I can tell you this much in America especially in the mountain regions we all depend on burning wood or coal for heat in the home. Electricty rates after Obama got done with coal electric production plants caused 23 rate increases since he came into office. Our electric bill went from a normal 120 a month to 280 a month for the same electric heat we had always used……….now we burn firewood and save 150 a month during winter and that’s buying wood cut and delivered.

      • beobrigitte says:

        Harley, wood is renewable energy. Isn’t it a pity that the global-warmists blame the burning of ‘renewable energy’ the most for ‘global warming (which is beginning to look like Winter is much earlier than usually on my front door)?

        Well said, garyk30!

  12. harleyrider1978 says:

    Smoking ban hurts business

    Kristen Feathers and Nancy Boone were in the board room at city hall October 6 to appeal for a specified smoking side at JB’s Restaurant on the square in Holly Springs.

    A new city no-smoking ordinance took effect October 1.

    Feathers said the restaurant wants the bar side open for smokers – anyone 21 and older. She said the restaurant would accommodate non-smokers by installing a smoke curtain and adding fans to keep the smoke from the restaurant side which would be non-smoking.

    “It hurts business,” Feathers said. “Last Thursday night (prior to the meeting) we lost about $200. They (customers) got up and left after they found out it was non-smoking.”

    Nancy Boone, owner with husband Johnny Boone, said customers are littering up the outside with cigarette butts as they go outdoors for a smoke.

    Feathers added that coffee drinkers and construction workers come in in the mornings.

    Boone asked, if the restaurant could not have smoking all day on the bar side, could the restaurant permit smoking on the bar side from 7 p.m. until closing?

    “They (customers) are already leaving us,” she said, “and going to the county.”

    JB’s is losing about $200 a day because of the new restricted smoking ordinance, she said.

    Alderman Sharon Gipson expressed empathy for JB’s for coming before the board to speak.

    “I know other businesses have the same concern,” she said.

    Nancy Boone added that other businesses are getting around the restricted smoking ordinance by having smoking in the back rooms or bathrooms.

    “We are just trying to do it legally,” Boone said.

    Ward 2 interests

    Gipson applauded JB’s for coming before the board.

    “I do admire those young ladies coming and speaking out,” she said. “I told people when I ran for this office, that I would fight for equality and equity for all people.”

    Some concerns Gipson cited included the following items:

    • a tree down behind a house on West Boundary Street. Gipson asked the tree be removed, after saying it had been reported to the street department supervisor a month ago.

    • thanked the building and grounds department for cutting two lots.

    • requested a gate and concrete blocks to be removed at the entrance of Sims Park and fencing be installed. She asked for a parking lot at Sims Park because people were parking on the grass.

    • lodged concerns about uneven paving on West College Avenue.

    • urged more care about posting sufficient construction signs on streets currently being worked on by paving crews.

    • reminded residents that a coat drive is underway until November 8. New or gently worn coats for both children and adults are accepted, she said. Contact Gipson to make arrangements to drop off coats.

    • urged employees who are being disciplined to stand up for themselves.

    • inquired about minority participation in city contracts.

    http://www.southreporter.com/index.php/news/1507-smoking-ban-hurts-business

  13. beobrigitte says:

    Warmist Prof. Alice Bows-Larkin calls for ‘planned recessions’ to fight ‘global warming’: ‘Economic growth needs to be exchanged’ for ‘planned austerity’ – ‘Whole system change’

    Erm…..

    For most of my life, I’ve had pundits telling me that we need to ‘kickstart the economy’ and ‘boost economic growth’. Now there are people telling me the opposite.
    Aren’t we all used to that by now? ‘Kickstarting the economy’ when taking out whole industries with idiotic bans does not exactly ‘boost economic growth.
    They have to somehow justify the repeatedly ‘near-recession-experience’ – ‘global warming action’ fits in nicely.

    And I suppose that once you’ve persuaded people to want to stop smoking and drinking and eating chocolate cream cakes,
    Don’t forget the beer! Today THE BBC has ‘educated’ us that ‘there is no safe level of alcohol consumption’ when you are over 40. And ‘alcohol has been FOUND to be ONE-OF-THE-MANY-factors that “cause” dementia’.
    That what we get when people who do degrees on spaghetti cooking continue to do a PhD….
    And there are a lot of idiots financing idiocy.

    you’re next going to try to persuade them to want to give up their wealth and their comfort, and their car, and their TV set, and their freezer, and their washing machine.

    No, not their TV set. That’s where all the ‘public education’ comes from.
    We have to have something to laugh about – the BBC and people like this:
    Flashback: Warmist Kevin Anderson, who advocates ‘planned recessions’ and cut back on his showering, tells UN climate summit: ‘Nations should give up growth obsession’ – Focus instead on ‘health and food and shelter’
    HEALTH? FOOD? SHELTER?
    *giggle*

    • harleyrider1978 says:

      Their plan isn’t to get anything economic going. For socialism to be needed the people must be destitute,thats what builds the perfect environmrnt for socialism or communism to grow. Capitalism always wins out unless liberal socialists destroy it via regulatory rules and anti-business laws. Which is all they have done since they’ve been in power DESTROYED very economic factor they could.

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  15. Smoking Lamp says:

    Prof. Alice Bows-Larkin would make an ideal Minister of Plenty.

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