The Royal Society for Public Health has called for smoking bans to be extended outdoors:
The public smoking ban should be extended to beer gardens, al fresco eating areas of restaurants, parks, and outside school gates, a report says.
The Royal Society for Public Health said smoking should be seen as “abnormal” and more controls are needed to cover areas where people gather.
The proposal has received a mixed reception:
The initiative has had a mixed review, even from vapers. Breitbart London spoke to Lorien Jollye of the New Nicotine Alliance, a registered charity that is promoting the informed use of electronic cigarettes. She told of why she welcomed, from health professionals, a “positive attitude to electronic cigarettes” and recognition that “nicotine ‘addiction’ has no negative behavioural aspects”. But she has sympathy for tobacco smokers.
She suggested that “smokers may become more unreachable” and even went as far as saying this is an example of anti-smoking “dehumanisation” which will only “increase antagonism towards smokers and possibly even vapers.”
Simon Clark of smoking rights group FOREST said on his blog ““While it makes sense to encourage smokers to switch from combustible cigarettes to electronic cigarettes, public health campaigns should be based on education not coercion and prohibition.
If you have a belief in anything approaching a free society, you will appreciate that it is not the job of government to decide what is normal, and it is certainly not the job of the police to enforce such opinions. One in five people smoke, so it is clearly common enough to be described as normal, but even if it was much less prevalent, it would not – or, at least, should not – be a matter for the police. A state that persecutes people because they are in a minority is on the road to fascism.
It should now be clear to anyone who still needs confirmation that secondhand smoke was only ever the excuse, rather than the reason, for the 2007 smoking ban.
Its real objective, indeed the objective of all anti-smoking policies, was to harass, stigmatise and inconvenience smokers.
This is a system known as ‘denormalisation’ in the field of tobacco control and as ‘fat-shaming’ in the field of obesity. Since passive smoking was only ever a cover story, it should be no surprise that the smoke-free crusade has continued long after nonsmokers were given the whole of the country’s interior.
Anti-smoking campaigners get annoyed when people accuse them of being prohibitionists. They don’t want smoking banned completely, they will protest, and in a way this is true. There are only two places they want smoking banned: indoors and outdoors. Apart from that, smokers can do whatever they want.
WILL these puritans ever stop? I am trying to enjoy a mid-August break away from current affairs and politics.
And I was feeling quite chirpy until I heard about the RSPH proposing a ban on smoking outside pubs, in beer gardens and, I presume, in smoking shelters too.
These have all cost those in the pub trade money to invest in and maintain. They allow pubs to keep the custom of at least some smokers. This move towards abolishing smoking around pubs completely would mean that investment and custom would be damaged hugely.
And whatever happened to freedom of choice?
These people have already succeeded in closing down thousands of UK pubs. In many cases they were community hubs and meeting places for lonely people.
And in many ways every pub is a parliament. It is in the local pub that we discuss whether the town needs a bypass, whether the England football manager is any good and how we will vote in the upcoming EU referendum.
Pubs are where communities can get together to socialise and enjoy life a bit. Yet it seems some people are determined to restrict our freedom even more.
Take away the pub and many people’s access to a proper social life disappears.
I’m sure many Sun readers will know pubs in their local area that have had to shut down thanks to the effect that the indoor smoking ban has had.
Now extending that ban to outside the pubs would be yet another blow to an industry that is already struggling.
The latest estimates from the Campaign for Real Ale are that 29 pubs are closing every week. It is a sad statistic that, if the puritans get their way, will only get worse.
There are lots of things in life that are bad for you, the current obesity epidemic being a very good example.
If these campaigners succeed in stopping us smoking outside pubs I will never visit one again in my life.
And I’m sure millions of other people will feel the same.
Such a ban would be very bad news indeed for those of us who enjoy pubs as a crucial part of community and where we can enjoy a drink and a smoke with friends and neighbours.
There is “no plan” to extend the public smoking ban to pub gardens, the Department of Health has told the PMA.
There there will not even be a consultation on the proposals set out in a report by the Royal Society of Public Health.
I seem to remember them ruling out plain packaging before caving in to the zealots.
But given that most of the support for the UK smoking ban was to be found among Labour and Lib Dem MPs. with 90% of Labour MPs and 95% of Lib Dem MPs voting for the ban, while only 35% of Conservative MPs did so, now that we have a Conservative government (and both Labour and Lib Dems are still reeling from their election catastrophes) it should be much easier for proposals of this sort to be shrugged off by true Conservatives. They had to pretend to go along with various insanities while there was a coalition government, but now they have a free hand.
And in fact, after the May election there was quite a lot of talk in Conservative circles of lifting the 2001 fox hunting ban, until the Scottish Nationalists said they wouldn’t let that happen.
Anyway, like Nigel Farage, if these campaigners do eventually succeed in stopping us smoking outside pubs, I too will never visit one again in my life. Something like 17% of UK pubs have closed since 2007, and the number would rise dramatically if people aren’t even allowed to smoke outside them. From my current experience, at the moment something 50% or more of pub-goers are smokers who will either be found smoking outside, or who will pop out from inside for a smoke.
Quite unprompted by me, Reinhold in Bavaria has recently taken to translating parts of some of my posts into German on Facebook. And now I have even been given my own little place in Netzwerk Rauchen: Frank Davis auf Deutsch.
It’s a great honour. I must add my new German alter ego to my blogroll.
My only slight reservation, as I remarked in a recent email to Reinhold, was to be described as energischer – “energetic”. For as the author of the Least Action Idle Theory, I hardly see myself as being at all energetic. Reinhold suggested that energisch might also be translated as “forceful, emphatic, resolute”, and perhaps even has a touch of “angry”. You be the judge.