Half Of All UK Nightclubs Have Closed In 10 Years

H/T Jax for this story:

Nearly half the UK’s nightclubs have shut their doors in just 10 years, according to figures seen by Newsbeat.

The Association of Licensed Multiple Retailers (ALMR), which represents venues, says in 2005 there were 3,144 clubs and this is now down to 1,733.

Chief Executive Kate Nicholls reckons that in some towns “they are gone for good and we’re never going to get them back”.

But people like Rudimental have told us that clubbing trends “go in cycles”.

The ALMR warns the closures will leave the UK worse off “culturally, socially and economically”.

It classes a club as a place meant for “late night entertainment, usually music and dancing”.

Ministry of Sound is an iconic name in clubbing, where many of the great DJs of the 1980s and 1990s made their names.

But its boss, Lohan Presencer, agrees that UK clubbing is in a “challenging place” in 2015.

“I don’t think the number of people going clubbing at the weekend is any different to where it was 20 years ago, but I do think they are going to different places,” he told Newsbeat.

“With the advent of later pub opening hours, the smoking ban, student tuition fees and the squeeze that a lot people are under financially since the recession,” he explains, “I think people are finding different ways and different places to go out.”

At least there’s a recognition that the smoking ban has got something to do with it.

All the same, that half of all night clubs have closed is pretty shocking. But if half of Britain’s pubs haven’t closed as well, it’s probably because many of them have re-invented themselves as restaurants. All the pubs whose gardens I visit these days do most of their business as restaurants. But I don’t know how night clubs might have re-invented themselves.

I was reading Blair spin doctor Alastair Campbell today listing all the good that Blair had done for working people. As I read it, I realised that one of the good things missing from the list was the smoking ban. Not very long ago a lot of Labour MPs seemed to think that bringing in the smoking ban was pretty much the best thing they’d done in their entire lives. And Alastair Campbell was a strong supporter of the ban, as I wrote 6 years ago.

It’s been a while since I’ve heard any MPs crowing about their role in introducing the smoking ban. Maybe that’s because the colossal damage it has done has gradually filtered through to them. Or maybe it’s the dim recognition that the smoking and drinking Nigel Farage wins support from a lot of people precisely because he very ostentatiously smokes and drinks.

Off topic, I’ve been avidly watching a Chinese author called Jung Chang speaking on YouTube. She grew up in Mao’s China and wrote a memoir on her grandmother’s and her mother’s and her own life, called Wild Swans. I came across her completely by chance, not having heard of her before. She’s since written books about Mao and the Dowager Empress Cixi, who died in 1908. All her books are banned in China.

Here’s her talk about Cixi that first captured my attention:

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24 Responses to Half Of All UK Nightclubs Have Closed In 10 Years

  1. idenisovich says:

    I watched this on BBC news with subtitles at work today. Lohan Presencer was filmed and his words conveyed as you have written them here (courtesy of BBC on-line news) but with the reference to the smoking ban removed. I was watching without sound so I cannot be sure but there is a possibility that someone at the BBC decided that Presencer had said something politically incorrect so censored his comments. Did anyone else see this potential abuse of the licence fee?

  2. harleyrider1978 says:

    I put nothing past pharma to do or say anything once folks learn statins are poisons not medicines
    Now claiming cancer prevention drug too…………the gall

    Statins may be more than a smoking gun, but level one data still lacking

    HemOnc Today, August 10, 2015
    Derek Raghavan, MD, PhD

    In this edition of HemOnc Today, there is a detailed discussion about the cancer therapy effects of statins, a series of cholesterol lowering agents also known affectionately as 3-hydroxy-3-methylglutaryl coenzyme A reductase inhibitors.

    Over the past decade, there has been increasing circumstantial evidence to suggest that these agents have anti-cancer effects and may even have an impact on cancer prevention. That said, this is extraordinarily controversial, with no clear consensus among the experts.

    http://www.healio.com/hematology-oncology/prostate-cancer/news/print/hemonc-today/%7B20bf91a0-4bcf-441c-989c-e2bee6812506%7D/statins-may-be-more-than-a-smoking-gun-but-level-one-data-still-lacking/comments

    • waltc says:

      Bullshit. There’s even more evidence that they cause –or are at least linked to–a higher rate of cancer. That’s from Gary Taubes very well-documented book that I’m too lazy to look through for exact cites now and won’t bother unless by popular demand.

      • harleyrider1978 says:

        walt Id say statin sales are dropping like flies. I read where most people quit statin drugs at 3 months and 8 months the most due to all the adverse side effects. Doctors wont tell you the shit it can do to you…………….afraid they will lose a pharma payola check Id say!

    • Some French bloke says:

      RE: statins. You might find these two links interesting:

      Life-threatening side effect the culprit behind statins pain:
      “Statin drugs rob your body of coenzyme Q10, a vital nutrient that helps generate the energy your cells need to function. And when you feel that telltale statin pain, it’s a desperate cry from your body that you’re falling short.
      Your muscles depend on an adequate supply of CoQ10 — and that includes your most important muscle of all. Your heart.
      So when those waves of muscle pain hit your arms, legs and back, you can bet the same damage and energy depletion are striking your heart, too. And that’s a recipe for serious, lasting heart trouble.”
      http://www.besthealthnutritionals.com/blog/2014/12/16/statins-leading-to-heart-dangers/

      “The main sources of supplemental Coenzyme Q10 are tobacco leaf extracts, and fermented beet and sugar cane.”
      http://plaintruthonyourhealthtoday.blogspot.fr/2008/05/q10-essential-vitamin-found-in-tobacco.html

      • harleyrider1978 says:

        I just came off the statins Lipitor it was literally destroying me inside out. The nurses and the doc told me it would take weeks to months to get back to normal from the effects and even the drug out of your system………….nausea,stomach pains low back traveling pains, neck pains head dizziness………..I felt in jus one day a total change in symptons but they back slide in intensity and them poof gone and then it will be something else……like it just wants to move around. The nurse at the hospital said her husband 3 month slater after quitting that that poison is finally starting to feel like his old self. Also implicated is its ability to cause anxiety/depression in users.

        • harleyrider1978 says:

          hot and cold at times eat something and then get feverish feeling then gut feels like its kinda healing itself after the feverish feeling starts to wear off. The statins should be pulled off the market immediately.

        • harleyrider1978 says:

          This is weird I was feeling all feverish like then achy here and there and then all of a sudden I started feeling all relaxed everywhere. Strange to say the least. Maybe that craps getting out of my system now at least the majority of it.

      • nisakiman says:

        “The main sources of supplemental Coenzyme Q10 are tobacco leaf extracts, and fermented beet and sugar cane.”

        That sounds very much like booze and fags to me!

        Looks like I’ve been getting it right all along!

  3. Smoking Lamp says:

    Meanwhile the demise of the pub continues. The Financial Times reports, “Twenty-nine pubs close each week across the UK, according to the Campaign for Real Ale.” That report notes:

    “At present, there are 53,444 pubs, down from about 67,000 in 1982, according to the British Beer and Pub Association. In the six months to June 15, the UK lost 750 pubs, with a third of the net closures in London and South East, where 411 pubs shut their doors compared with 145 openings.”
    http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/5b6428b6-3f68-11e5-9abe-5b335da3a90e.html#axzz3iRTTzW5G

    The decline started with the 2007 smoking ban. Of course the Antis claim there is no downside from smoking bans…

  4. petesquiz says:

    Part of the decline of night clubs can be put at the door of the pubs, particularly in cities like Birmingham, that have re-invented themselves as night clubs at the weekend.

    A while ago I went into a pub called The Dubliner (used to be the Barrel Organ back in the day) at about 9 o’clock on a Saturday evening. The place was virtually empty, but the laser lights and the disco were set up and running. As we left (after just the one pint) I asked the bouncer what time they closed – 4:30 am was his answer! When we went in the Kerryman across the road, the set up was similar.

    One of the good things Labour did was to relax the pub opening hours and this is one of the consequences. There are obviously other factors involved in the decline of night clubs and I’m sure the smoking ban is one of them!

  5. DICK R says:

    The rowdy pissed up arseholes have now invaded what were once good old pubs as the tenants are evicted by the pubcos and replaced by their own managers and the premises turned into ‘style’bars selling alchopops to teenagers.

  6. jaxthefirst says:

    “As I read it, I realised that one of the good things missing from the list was the smoking ban.”

    Wow. That’s a real sign of change. As you say, Frank, for the first year or so after the ban pretty much all Labour MPs, when criticised about their appalling policies, would always to fall back on the old “ah, but at least we brought in the smoking ban!” line – so convinced were they that that single act trumped all their other, terrible policies and made them all OK. I seem to remember in comments sections, too, even some Tory-voting antis grudgingly saying that the ban was “the only good thing that this Labour Government has done.” And Campbell was certainly one of the foremost “We can never do anything wrong. Ever” merchants – it was his job, after all, as a spin-doctor to try and shine even the most woeful political decision in a positive light. So, if even he’s given up trying to pretend that the smoking ban was “a good thing” and the only way he can see of concealing what a disaster it has been is not to mention it at all, then that’s a sure sign that the harsh reality of the damage that the smoking ban has done (and continues to do) is finally filtering through. It might not (yet) be sufficiently strong for them to repeal or at least relax the ban, but at least it’ll stop them braying on about how “successful” it’s been and how “universally popular” it is.

    Oh, and as an addendum to the article about nightclub closures, just coincidentally (or maybe not – who knows?), I heard a similar article on the radio the next day highlighting the closure of greyhound-racing stadiums. On looking it up, it seems that the BBC ran an article on the demise of dog racing back in 2013 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-20968535), and in some of the associated stories at the bottom there are news items about several stadiums which closed their doors forever after decades of good trade in – err – 2008/9. Coincidence? Maybe, maybe not. No mention of the smoking ban, but hey, given that the clientele who most regularly frequented dog racing are from a very similar demographic to those regularly frequenting, proper, wet-led pubs, it would be very unlikely that the thing which discouraged them from going to the pub didn’t also discourage them from going to the racetracks. It’s certainly stopped me from having a “night at the doggies,” as I used to do fairly frequently – and, of course, that means that the non-smoking friends whom I used to go with don’t go either – now we just do other things instead.

    PS: Jung Chang’s “Wild Swans” is an absolutely brilliant, unputdown-able book. A real, epic tale of three generations of a Chinese family, each living through a very different period in China’s history. My absolute, absolute favourite book of all time. If you haven’t read it yet, Frank, do so.

    • Frank Davis says:

      demise of dog racing back in 2013

      I’d not heard of that. I’ve never been to a dog race, so wouldn’t know if smoking was a big part of it. But I’ve heard of snooker clubs closing (I used to go to those, and they were smoky places). Working men’s clubs too. And that game (whose name evades me) where they call out numbers. I’d not heard of the night clubs, because I never went to any. There are probably any number of casualties of the ban.

      Jung Chang’s “Wild Swans” is an absolutely brilliant, unputdown-able book

      Oh, good! Because that’s the book I’ve ordered. In fact I first thought the Mark Steyn book that arrived today must be Jung Chang’s.

  7. harleyrider1978 says:

    NYC anti-tobacco budget decrease linked to increase in smoking rate: report | am New York

    The American Cancer Society said the dip was a concern.

    http://www.amny.com/news/nyc-anti-tobacco-budget-decrease-linked-to-increase-in-smoking-rate-report-1.10730320

    ROFLMAO……………..

  8. harleyrider1978 says:

    Researcher: Shakespeare’s pipes had been used for cannabis smoking

    Scientists in Pretoria analysed 400-year-old tobacco pipes found in and around the playwright’s home in Stratford-Upon-Avon, The Independent

    http://celebcafe.org/researcher-shakespeare-s-pipes-had-been-used-for-cannabis-smoking-6611/

  9. harleyrider1978 says:

  10. harleyrider1978 says:

    Frank this should interest you

    ALERT: Rush Limbaugh Drops BOMBSHELL About Order Fox News Received Just Before GOP Debate

    The first GOP primary debate of the year, hosted by Fox News and moderated by three of their best, kicked off in headline-grabbing style when the moderator team backed candidate Donald Trump into a corner about the possibility of running on a third-party ticket.

    But the attacks didn’t stop there. Out of the six questions that Trump was asked, most of them were nothing more than thinly veiled attacks in what conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh suggested was a targeted effort by the GOP establishment to slam the brakes on Trump’s momentum

    While Limbaugh had reported that there was a strong possibility that “big-time Republican donors had ordered to take out Donald Trump,” he and most others assumed the attackers would be Trump’s fellow candidates.

    But when the debate wrapped up, he explained that Fox News was the real hit man.

    “We assumed that the orders went out to the candidates. But the candidates did not make one move toward taking Donald Trump out. The broadcast network did; the candidates didn’t,” Limbaugh said on his Friday show.

    That opinion was widely shared by other pundits Friday, as well as tens of thousands of angry, once-loyal Fox News viewers who took to Megyn Kelly’s Facebook page and wrote paragraphs of how disgusted they were by her obvious attack on Trump while she tossed softballs to others like establishment favorite Jeb Bush.

    Limbaugh explained that the other candidates had multiple chances to pounce on Trump during several questions, especially when Chris Wallace pressed Trump on specifics of where he received his information that led to his controversial remarks on illegal immigration.

    But not one of them took advantage of the question. They were silent (H/T Rush Limbaugh).

    “If Trump maintains his support or if it grows, you are gonna see a mainstream establishment that will not have any idea how to explain it,” Limbaugh concluded. “They will not believe it, and it might drive ’em nuts, because they think he didn’t finish last night.”

    And we’re all for anything that drives the mainstream establishment nuts.

    http://conservativetribune.com/limbaugh-drops-bombshell/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=TPNNPages&utm_content=2015-08-08

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