Another Vindictive Antismoking Law

The new Conservative government seems to have lost little time looking for ways to reform the BBC:

The taxpayer-funded British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) appears to have had intricate involvement in a letter sent to the Prime Minister, urging the organisation to be spared from government spending cuts. The news comes despite the BBC claim that it had no involvement in the letter.

The Times reports that in fact, the letter sent by a number of British celebrities to the Prime Minister was circulated and promoted by BBC executives – a point that has emerged since one of the signatories admitted she was approached by the controller of BBC Radio 1.

And also reform the over-mighty medical profession:

The argument is over a situation that looks to be straight out of the 1970s. In reality it is the result of an agreement made in 2003, when the then Labour government caved in to pressure from BMA bosses and dished out a new deal for the NHS which included rights for senior doctors to opt out of working weekends – even though this is when hospitals face some of their greatest pressures.

Of course, if they really want to save wasted money, they could do no better than to de-fund the AntiSmoking Hate group, ASH, and similar organisations. And shake up the BMA and RCP.

But, H/T Rose, that doesn’t seem very likely, given the latest antismoking edict:

From 1 October 2015 it will be illegal to smoke in a car (or other vehicles) with anyone under 18 present. The law is changing to protect children and young people from the dangers of secondhand smoke.

Both the driver and the smoker could be fined £50. The law applies to every driver, including those aged 17 and those with a provisional driving licence. The law does not apply if the driver is 17 years old and is on their own in the car.

The law applies to any private vehicle that is enclosed wholly or partly by a roof. It still applies if people have the windows or sunroof open, have the air conditioning on, or if they sit in the open doorway of the vehicle. The law won’t apply to a convertible car with the roof completely down.


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13 Responses to Another Vindictive Antismoking Law

  1. harleyrider1978 says:

    No wonder Blair took your guns…………….

    • John Watson says:

      It is only illegal to possess fully or semi-automatic rifles, machine guns/pistols and combat shotguns in the UK. Most farmers here own breech loaded shotguns and there are significant numbers of pistol and breech loading rifles owned in the UK which are allowed if the owner is the member of a rifle club, although, the licensing conditions are now very stringent. We do not have civilian concealed weapon permits so weapons have to be kept and transported in cases separate from ammunition or kept at a shooting range.

      Indeed the discharge of firearms in a public venue has been illegal for many years but not on private land usually farms or country estates.

      While ownership of firearms was once commonplace here we never had a Constitutional right to bear arms as you do in America so it is easier for the government to impose restrictions on firearms owners and to be honest I would, given the choice, support such a right to hold arms.

      It will, I am sure, amuse you to know that here in England every man and boy breaks the law every Sunday as it is an offense not to train four at least one hour in the use of the longbow! A statute that has been law of the land since the middle ages.

      • The Blocked Dwarf says:

        we never had a Constitutional right to bear arms as you do in America

        Actually, assuming you were baptised an Anglican then you did have the right to carry arms in the UK. 1689 Bill Of Rights.

  2. Rose says:

    Sometimes you just have to laugh, in a bitter and twisted way.

    It’s no use whining the smokers have already taken the rap for this so don’t expect any improvement. Passive smoking, remember, and you’ve already got your bans.

    Pollution shock: How the air you breathe in London could KILL you
    Jul 17, 2015

    “THOUSANDS of people are dying every year in London because of the polluted AIR they are breathing, new research claims.”

    “Almost 9,500 people die every year in London as a result of air pollution according to a study by King’s College London.
    That results in a shocking 790 people a month and 26 people per day death rate.
    Experts found there were 3,537 premature deaths due to particles known as particulate matter (PM2.5) and 5,879 from nitrogen dioxide (NO2), meaning a total of 9,416.
    The figure is twice as many as was previously thought were dying.”

    “The research was commissioned by the Greater London Authority (GLA) and Transport for London (TfL).

    It is believed to be the first study to provide a real figure of the number of people killed by NO2 in the air they breath.”


    “the Medical Research Council was planning to issue a statement saying although smoking was a significant cause of lung cancer, up to 30% of cases might be caused by air pollution.

    But the Cabinet committee on cancer of the lung, fearful of another political embarrassment which could be caused by stressing the air pollution connection, asked the MRC to reconsider its statement.

    On 31 May 1957 a modified version was published, which asserted that although it was likely that atmospheric pollution did play a role in lung cancer, it was ‘a relatively minor one in comparison with cigarette smoking’

    So tough, they can probably spin that one out for at least another 50 years.

  3. Rose says:


    Asteroid with platinum core worth £3.5 trillion set to pass Earth
    18 July 2015

    “An asteroid believed to contain a platinum core worth £3.5 trillion is expected to pass Earth at around 10pm on Sunday, attracting the interest of asteroid-mining companies.

    The platinum-filled space rock which is also thought to contain other precious materials is only around half a mile wide, but its metallic core is estimated to weigh 100 million tonnes making it hugely valuable.

    Asteroid 2011 UW-158 will pass 1.5 million miles away from Earth, meaning it will be 30 times closer than our nearest planet, according to Slooh Community Observatory.

    However, it will be six times further away than the moon’s orbit meaning it will be impossible to see with the naked eye.”

  4. harleyrider1978 says:

    New Study Reveals E-Cigarette Vapor No More Dangerous Than Air

    Inhaling vapor from E-cigarettes is as safe as breathing air, according to a new paper that compared two E-cigarettes with regular cigarettes and air.|By Austin Petersen

  5. harleyrider1978 says:

    One thing ya forget,that much platinum dumped on the markets would plummet platinums value.

  6. Rose says:

    Jail unrest feared over smoking ban plans
    Saturday 18 July 2015

    “The Ministry of Justice is drawing up plans for a smoking ban in several jails amid fears that legal actions forcing all to go smoke-free simultaneously would trigger unrest at a time when tensions in the prison estate are high.

    Successive prison ministers have prevaricated on introducing a ban, due to concerns about the reaction from the four out of five prisoners who smoke. However, two legal cases brought by prisoners have brought the matter to a head. In March, a high court case confirmed that prisons were not above the law when it came to restrictions on smoking and that prison staff, including the governor, were open to prosecution if they failed to enforce restrictions.”

    “The judge said that extending the smoking ban to prison cells could cause unrest. He said “prisoners who feel the need to smoke … may be resistant to the criminalising of that conduct in places where in my view the Health Act does apply”. This ruling is being contested by Ministry of Justice lawyers who argued that, because prisons operate under crown immunity, they are not subject to the ban. But last month, in response to a case brought by a prisoner who objected to being held in a cell with a smoker in Parc prison in Bridgend, Wales, run by G4S, lawyers for the justice secretary, Michael Gove, accepted that crown immunity did not cover private prisons and conceded that Parc would become smoke-free by February.”

    I’m sure that this looked like such a good idea at the time..

    ASH and Thompsons’ Tell Employers: Don’t Say You Weren’t Warned Over Secondhand Smoke
    Monday 12 January 2004

  7. harleyrider1978 says:

    July 17, 2015 3:19PM

    Obamacare’s Not-So-Hidden Tax: Thank You for Smoking

    This is the last paragraph

    With that said, should we be concerned with Obamacare cigarette taxes versus, say, excise taxes? One disadvantage of differing excise taxes across state or city borders is that it encourages smuggling or purchases from low-tax areas. Thus, the tax doesn’t correct the negative externality. That differs, of course, from Obamacare taxes where a person would need to move from Wyoming to Michigan to reduce the tax. Yet, Obamacare cigarette taxes present a host of problems. The vast majority of people do not receive health insurance from Obamacare, so its cigarette taxes do not correct the externalities smoking produces. In addition, the cigarette taxes in Obamacare lack transparency. They are buried in the weeds of Obamacare premiums as hefty smoking taxes, meant to influence or punish the choices of 18 percent of American adults. Perhaps if smoking rates were as high as obesity, they’d have enough political power that bureaucrats wouldn’t punish them.

  8. harleyrider1978 says:

    Blonde guy joke..
    An Irishman, a Mexican and a Blonde Guy were doing construction work on scaffolding on the 20th floor of a building.
    They were eating lunch and the Irishman said, ‘Corned beef and cabbage! If I get corned beef and cabbage one more time for lunch, I’m going to jump off this building.’
    The Mexican opened his lunch box and exclaimed,’Burritos again! If I get burritos one more time I’m going to jump off, too.’
    The blonde guy opened his lunch and said, ‘ Bologna again! If I get a bologna sandwich one more time, I’m jumping too.’
    The next day, the Irishman opened his lunch box, saw corned beef and cabbage, and jumped to his death.
    The Mexican opened his lunch, saw a burrito, and jumped, too.
    The blonde guy opened his lunch, saw the bologna and jumped to his death as well.
    At the funeral, the Irishman’s wife was weeping.She said, ‘If I’d known how really tired he was of corned beef and cabbage, I never would have given it to him again!’
    The Mexican’s wife also wept and said, ‘I could have given him tacos or enchiladas! I didn’t realize he hated burritos so much.’
    Everyone turned and stared at the blonde guy’s wife. The blonde guy’s wife said,
    ‘Don’t look at me. He makes his own lunch ..’

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