Shy Tories

Brendan O’Neill:

The Shy Tory phenomenon also confirms the existence of the thing we wrote about immediately after the election: Two Britains. Not two classes, in the way politics used to be organised. And not two parties: the old two-party system has withered. No, it’s now Two Britains, two countries, two planets almost, whose peoples think and believe quite different things. There is now a very striking divergence between the values of the cultural elite, which are aired constantly, in the political, media and public spheres, and the values of other people, larger numbers of people, shy people, who think differently to this singular new elite but feel they can only express those thoughts in one place: the private voting booth.

The new elite clearly lives in blissful ignorance of what this other Britain thinks and does. That was the take-home story of the incomprehension that greeted the election results. Twitter and the media were full of the most tortured questions: ‘WHO are these people who voted Tory?’, ‘WHY did they do it?’; ‘WHERE do they live??’ Really, the chattering classes had no idea These People existed. They mistook their domination of the political and cultural agenda for proof that all of Britain is behind them. They mistook ordinary people’s self-silencing, encouraged by the new intolerance of any kind of alternative thinking, for ‘One Britain’, a sign that we now all think the same thing. But we don’t.

So in essence, following this election, the new, supposedly liberal oligarchy stands exposed, temporarily at least. Both its profound removal from ordinary people, whose passions and views it cannot comprehend, and its presiding over a nation in which it has become normal to self-censor and hide one’s outlook, were revealed on 7 May and afterwards.

Conservative election strategist Lynton Crosby:

Mr Crosby said that Britain’s political class is dominated by “a bunch of people, most of whom live inside the M25 who could never live on the £26,000 that is the average annual earnings of people in this country”.

“It wasn’t just Ed Miliband’s Labour Party that revealed itself as out of touch and remote from the people who are the backbone of Britain. It was a failure for the Westminster-centric ‘Eddie the Expert’ and ‘Clarrie the Commentator’ who were tested and found wanting.

“It was as much a judgment day for them as Ed Miliband and they lost.”

He added: “Most went to Oxbridge, talk only to themselves, and last time they met a punter was when they picked up their dry cleaning.”

Can’t say I disagree with either.


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  1. Smoking Lamp says:

    From Quebec: An essay calling for an end to prohibitionism quoting a not so shy Tory — Benjamin Disraeli, 1st Earl of Beaconsfield…

    Stop the prohibitions! We have a right to be human!
    By Beryl Wajsman on May 15, 2015
    Well, prohibition season is upon us and in full swing.

    What seems to be an at least yearly event, perhaps corresponding to the weather, is in full throttle at provincial and municipal governments. Politicians find it easier to prohibit first, question later, than concentrating on getting the basics right. It is an appeal to the base politics of fear and a perpetuation of the lie that life can be legislated into what David Taylor Jones has called the “zero-risk” state

    This kind of politics is wrong. It infringes on Charter rights and natural justice. And worst of all it treats us all like children. The essence of a free society is just that – freedom – to speak as we like, to choose as we like…even if they are bad choices.

    But reasonable people could be forgiven for thinking that the real driver behind all these prohibitions is money and votes. More fines, more revenue for government coffers to feed more bureaucrats enforcing regulations that serve only to put more power into the hands of politicians over our lives. And of course, gathering votes at the edges by pandering to every screaming interest group no matter how small. Remember as you read on, what starts in one city or town or borough, usually spreads like wildfire everywhere as more jurisdictions see this potential for pecuniary and political profit. In the end, we are all suffocated.

    Let’s review the past few weeks. The Ville-Marie borough decided that terraces have to be on the outside of sidewalks going into the road. No more chairs hugging restaurant or pub frontages. Ostensibly the reason was to ease pedestrian traffic. Yet the borough has had only one complaint in three years. So of course it is better to put diners at risk of an out of control car on the road taking out ten people at a time. Oh, there is another element. The permits for these new terraces will be more expensive since some require construction and the owners also have to cover the cost of the parking spaces blocked. Who needs parking downtown right? After all, business is booming without it.

    The city of Granby made it illegal for citizens to post offensive comments about police officers online. What’s next, a prohibition against criticizing elected councillors? Hasn’t Granby heard that Canada has freedom of speech as a constitutional guarantee? But how valuable are liberties when they can be replaced by the stiff fines which Granby has instituted. Clearly the latter have priority.

    The provincial government is seeking to limit how many anti-depressant drugs each Quebecer can consume a year, even with a prescription. So your health is no longer a decision for you and your doctor but must comply with “Big Brother.” At the same time, Quebec is seeking to extend the ban on outdoor smoking. Aside from banning smoking on terraces, what makes the province’s latest proposal legally absurd is that it would require smokers to refrain from lighting up until they are 27 feet from the doorway of a public entrance. The problem is most entrances are 20-25 feet wide. So even if someone wanted to comply, they physically could not. Our jurisprudence demands that laws must be capable of actually being able to be executed by the public. This one cannot be. But what do legal protections matter when there is a great reason to issue more tickets?

    The city of Montreal is now considering passage of a resolution demanding that Quebec make new regulations forcing fast-food outlets to post large signs listing the nutritional value of the products they sell. And you can bet the next step will be someone calling for a ban on some of these products. Whatever happened to making up our own minds? Oh, we forgot, we’re children and need to be guided in how much soda pop we consume. Or will there be a new “health tax” on all the things so many like to eat and drink?

    And finally the Couillard administration is making noises about going to court to force major retailers like WalMart and Best Buy to add French descriptors to their names even though trademark names are protected by our language laws. No matter, we must protect the minds of our children musn’t we? And if companies fail to comply….you guessed it…fine them!

    As Julius Grey has written so often, “Legislating niceness s not very nice. Big Brother est allé trop loin.” While governments are reaching excessive levels of paternalism and expensive oversight engaging in social engineering, what are they doing about protecting essential services? We got a taste of that last week when it was confirmed that the Réné-Cassin seniors day centre would be closed for budgetary reasons.

    Queen Victoria`s favourite Prime Minister was Conservative Benjamin Disraeli. He loved to quote the writer Samuel Butler that, “The proper tole of vice is to keep virtue in reasonable bounds.” Disraeli believed the state had no role regulating consensual choices of adults. His lesson was that not everything is going to be perfect in life. Not every problem can be solved by legislation. No politician should pretend it can and be allowed to put into force straightjacket law that seeks to micro-manage every aspect of our lives.

    Today’s politicians who engage in this kind of chicanery should be exposed for what they truly are. Unimaginative functionaries staggering from election to election who, fearful of tackling the vested interests on the really important issues necessary to protect the public good, hope that creating prohibitionary rule and regulation will provide just enough fodder for some publicity come election time. And enough extra revenue from fines and taxes to get them there.

    At the Métropolitain;

  2. Rose says:


    I’m sure that you are all aware of this.

    Britain’s oldest poppy seller found dead in gorge having been ‘hounded by cold callers’

    “Olive Cooke, 92, was found dead in the Avon Gorge, Bristol after being besieged with begging letters from dozens of charities”

    Shame of charities that prey on the kind-hearted and drove Olive to her death: Organisations who exploited pensioner’s kind heart admit to sending begging letters

    “Mrs Cooke, who had direct debits to 27 charities, threw herself to her death in the Avon Gorge in Bristol last week after telling friends and family she ‘couldn’t give any more’.

    The Mail has discovered her name was on a list of donors maintained by shadowy data firms and sold on to charities. This led to her being swamped by phone calls and receiving up to 260 begging letters a month.”

    With the names of some of those involved and the experiences of others in the comments.

    Having seen the amount of charity adverts on day time tv, I am not a bit surprised

    • beobrigitte says:

      Rose, I did read this yesterday in one of the papers lying around in work.
      It made me REALLY angry!

      It is true, so-called “charities” pester you with phone calls – The RSPCA (to which I donated £7/month) thought it was appropriate to pester me to up this amount to £10/month. So I cancelled my standing order.

      “Charities” have been given a bad name by ASH – by the looks of it they ARE bad things, funding their money raising schemes from the cash they squeeze out of pensioners who remember bad times and give.
      CRUK is going round with the begging bowl again – promising to cure all cancers. Would someone enlighten me what NEW cancer treatment (!) CRUK has come up with in the last 20 years?
      CRUK, go and sing for your money!!! Not a penny from me!

      Charities do not appear to have a problem bleeding pensioners dry – after all, they are a burden to society?

      Whoa-hey!!! Where does that leave the anti-smokers’ wet dream of living ‘sooooooo-much-longer-if-we-destroy-the-tobacco-industry?’

    • harleyrider1978 says:

      I saw BB King one time in Memphis playing at a local blues bar by the navy base there…..good man!

    • nisakiman says:

      That’s an interesting photo in light of the obit I read in the DT this morning:

      He refused to tolerate smoking or drinking (let alone drugs) among his musicians during a performance

      On another tack, this article on the BBC site made me smile:

      Why India’s government is targeting Greenpeace

      A secret report from India’s Intelligence Bureau, leaked last year, explains why India’s government has such a beef with the environmental charity.

      It said campaigns headed by Greenpeace and other NGOs had drained three percentage points off the nation’s annual growth rate.

      It would seem the Indian government has been having a ‘bonfire of the NGOs’. About bloody time too. The majority of NGOs are interfering parasites.

      • harleyrider1978 says:

        That’s funny in 1979 when I saw BB KING he was smoking right along with every other member on the stage…………lit cigs stuck butt end on the guitar wires on the head as they played. In fact that’s how all the musicians especially guitarists played back then……….lite one up and stick it on your cut off string wire on the tuner head………….my dad always did it that way too…….

        • Smoking Lamp says:

          The antis employ history revision to build the perception that smoking is deviant. It’s part of their denormalization strategy. This Orwellian tactic must be strongly countered on all fronts!

    • beobrigitte says:

      He could have lived at least 10 years longer if he hadn’t smoked…..

      That does remind me – I tried to clear a relatively easy overhang the other day. 20 years ago this would have been a doddle. With age I do find that my muscle mass decreases MUCH faster than ever!!! I guess this is set to continue.

      My social life already has been destroyed – if I go to a pub I find myself, AS A PAYING CUSTOMER, kicked out the door should I wish to smoke. Worse even, my drink inside the pub will disappear in that time as I am not allowed to take it outside with me.

      Do I want to hang around until I’m 89 years of age? What for? The only reconciliation I’ll have is that everyone else will have to pay for my wellbeing.
      And, I am VERY GOOD at absconding. The old folks’ home I end up in has a task on it’s hand!

  3. harleyrider1978 says:

    On property rights: “It is not the right OF property which is protected, but the right TO property. Property per se has no rights; but the individual—the man—has three great rights, equally sacred from arbitrary interference: the right to his life, the right to his liberty, the right to his property . . . . The three rights are so bound to together as to be essentially one right. To give a man his life but deny him his liberty, is to take from him all that makes his life worth living. To give him his liberty but take from him the property which is the fruit and badge of his liberty, is to still leave him a slave” – U.S. Supreme Court Justice George Sutherland.

  4. smokervoter says:

    Stop the presses. Walt, you mentioned being a former Pall Mall Red unfiltered smoker yesterday. I’m counting on you to shed some light on an old unresolved question I put up a couple of years ago.

    I implore you to help me solve the great Pall Mall Mystery. And please don’t suggest an internet search, I’ve done at least five unfruitful wild goose chases in the past, going through 60 results at times, and nada, zilch, nothing. I’m desperate – I’ve just got to know.

    To save space here’s my original query on The Great Pall Mall Mystery.

    Even if you didn’t yourself do the Pall Mall Thing maybe you know someone else who did. Please ask around, I’m desperate.

    I understand Pall Malls are sold and popular on both sides of the pond. Anybody else know?

    I’d ask one of my old Fish Stick smoking friends, but for the life of me I can’t remember who they were.

    • harleyrider1978 says:

      I remember them tearing the bottoms out my own granddad smoked pall malls and lucky strikes. He did it to keep the tobacco out of his shirt pocket and to pack it tight so he didn’t get loose tobacco in his mouth smoking it………

      • harleyrider1978 says:

        Dad and the rest always smoked winstons with a filter………..just the brand he and most liked back then even his brothers today smoke winstons. Most of them are late 70s now.

        • smokervoter says:

          Winstons were far and away the most popular cig throughout the 60s, 70s and 80s. It was Winston vs Marlboro. They’re a damn good smoke. I smoked Winston-like Old Gold Filters but I’d always trade straight across for a Winston.

          It wasn’t until the advent of Camel Filters that they finally got knocked off the throne.

          “Winston tastes good like a (bomp bomp) cigarette should!”

        • Rose says:

          Old Golds

          That rings a bell.

          Nicotinic Acid
          October 3, 1941

          Dear sirs,
          Referring to the subject of nicotinic acid, or the anti-pellagra vitamin, in cigarette smoke, permit us to state that we have heard from the University of Wisconsin, and are pleased to report that they have confirmed our findings in every respect. In other words, in aqueous solution of the smoke from ten Old Golds they find .8 milligrams of nicotinic acid,”


          Officials fell trees inscribed by US soldiers who fought for France (WWII GI Memorial)

          “Locals are calling for the few “name trees” that still stand to be classified as historic monuments and saved from the same fate. “It should have been done a long time ago,” said Nicolas Navarro, the curator of a Second World War museum in the grounds of his family’s 13th-century Château du Taillis near by. “It’s sad and pathetic that it wasn’t.”

          The trees surrounded land in the heart of Saint Pierre de Varengeville-Duclair forest, near Rouen in Normandy, which was once home to a US army camp named after the Twenty Grand brand of cigarettes.

          It was one of nine cigarette camps – along with Pall Mall, Old Gold, Philip Morris, Chesterfield, Lucky Strike, Home Run, Wings and Herbert Tareyton – used by troops needing treatment or waiting to be sent elsewhere. They were places of calm between the D-Day landings and the Ardennes, the Siegfried Line or the Pacific.”

          Apparently the camps were named after cigarette brands, so that if the Germans intercepted messages they would assume that cigarettes were being discussed rather than military camps.

          How’s that for bit of useless knowledge that’s got stuck in my head?

      • smokervoter says:

        I remember them tearing the bottoms out OK, now we’re getting somewhere. I know it wasn’t a figment of my imagination.

        to pack it tight so he didn’t get loose tobacco in his mouth smoking it They would pack and pack and pack something fierce before they even opened the pack (from the bottom of course). And then they’d tamp the individual smoke as well before lighting it.

        A loose packed cig will tend to burn hotter and drier (hence fish sticks?).

        Question: Did they call em’ Fish Sticks too?

        • harleyrider1978 says:

          I don’t recall them calling them anything,they just did their normal routine pop the pack a few times and pull one out.

        • harleyrider1978 says:

          Gotta remember at the time I was only about 6-11 years old. Then mom and dad got divorced and I didn’t see much of them after that time. Except maybe 7 more times by the time I was 18. Ive seen them each year now at the reunions we have up in Henderson Ky where everyone came from save down the road near Madisonville ky where the original family homestead was from the revolutionary war land grant. I did get to see the old original log cabin they first built as they had to tear it down when the interstate came thru and it was still stacked under metal roofing on the property they still had then. In fact Uncle Jack still raises about 10,000 pounds of tobacco there. But its been at least 7 years since I was last there. He is 87 now and still smoking and growing. Mostly using Mexicans and some white kids he can get to crop local though.

    • waltc says:

      Said I smoked them in college which was 412 years ago but no, I have what actors call a sense memory of opening them from the top, but, yes, just a small one-sided tear in the top foil, then slapping the pack on the bottom like a newborn baby, which was possibly to shake out any loose tobacco, and then tapping the cigarette itself on the about-to-be lighted end on the nearest table or, lacking a table, the back of my palm. Oddly, that’s a strong memory tho I have no idea now why I did it though your reason makes sense. I also nonetheless recall occasionally pulling shreds of tobacco off my tongue. Further trips down that lane: I did start at 15 smoking something filtered (Winston? Kent?) but at college people who didn’t smoke filters, smoked Pall Mall and Chesterfield. I must’ve bummed a PM from someone and liked it enuf to switch.

      Get my post yesterday about my bargain Virginia Sherman’s ?

  5. beobrigitte says:

    ” The thrill is gone”

    I do LOVE this track – miss BB Kings cigarette squeezed on the filter in the e-string near the motorhead, though……..
    And, yes, the thrill is gone.

    Twitter and the media were full of the most tortured questions: ‘WHO are these people who voted Tory?’, ‘WHY did they do it?’; ‘WHERE do they live??’ Really, the chattering classes had no idea These People existed.

    These People started to do maths – working out what Labour would sting us all for if it got into power. The more daring of these voters gave their vote to UKIP.

    Talking about financing the nonsense that makes us all poor:
    Prof Grieshaber just blogged again:
    Call to withdraw from the FCTC
    …In dem Weltkrieg gegen den Tabak wurden nämlich in den letzten Jahren irrsinnige Beträge verbrannt.
    [In the war against tobacco, in fact, insane amounts of money were burnt in recent years.]
    Dieser Krieg wird von Ihnen und mir bezahlt.
    [This war is paid for by you and me .]

    As per usual, Prof. Grieshaber writes in great detail, well worth the read!!! I really do wish I had the time to translate this post!!! Even if Reinhold would kindly offer help again – right now there aren’t enough hours in the day to do it. I do hope Google translate will not mess it up!!!

    Prof Grieshaber is right:
    Jede Woche wird eine neue gesundheitheitspolitische Sau durchs Dorf getrieben.
    [Each week a new health safety policy Sow is driven through the village]

    That until people had enough of all this nonsense.
    Last week 4 million people screamed it and a lot more who are less daring voted for the Tories in the hope of an end to the nanny state.

    That does remind me of a youngster I know who is obscessed with “health”. I pointed out that all her worry makes her sick. Her reply: “How CAN I stop worrying?” My reply: “Do I look worried? Just copy me”.

  6. Nika says:

    Just a follow up to Get Rid of the Chiiiiildren. After graduating high school with honors, my grandson refused to go to college even though it would not have cost anyone a dime. Then my daughter let him freeload off her for three years. Now he has the first of what promises to be a long line of short-term menial jobs punctuated by more freeloading.

    Every time my daughter pulls her hair out about his “unused potential,” I just think back to when the kid was age 12 and I asked him what chores he had to do. “None.” Not even washing the family car or mowing the lawn? “None.” She wouldn’t listen to me about how bad this was for him then.

    For every inaction, there is an equal and opposite inaction. I see so many healthy, intelligent, 18-to-30-plus year old young people freeloading off their parents these days that I have to wonder if they are also actually teaching each other how to keep doing it …

  7. waltc says:

    SV: I answered you somewhere up there but it posted in the wrong spot

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