Goodbye Nightmare Scenario

Following on from the last post on UKIP, H/T Smokingscot for this story (confirmed by Brigitte) about UKIP’s Paul Nuttall:

NEW figures showing pub closures have accelerated to 31 per week have led to calls to reduce taxes and ease the smoking ban on the local boozer.

The figures are released as part of real ale group Camra’s “Pubs Matter”campaign and show 3% of pubs in the suburbs have shut in the past six months.

Paul Nuttall, UKIP’s deputy leader and Northwest MEP, said “It is completely unfair that pubs are paying nearly ten times more tax on a price of a pint in comparison to supermarkets.

“The smoking ban also severely hit pubs right across the country – if landlords want a well-ventilated room set aside for smokers they should be able to make that choice.

“This move along with reducing VAT for the hospitality industry would support local pubs and decelerate the rate they’re closing each and every week”.

So in UKIP it’s not just Nigel Farage who wants to relax the smoking ban.

I can’t say I ever really thought it was.

And if Nigel Farage stopped drinking for a month in Jan/Feb, he seems to be well back on again now:

Nigel Farage seems to believe his party’s faltering campaign has turned a corner – if his enthusiastic sing-song celebration in a restaurant in Ramsgate on Thursday night is anything to go by.

A little before midnight, the well-wined Ukip leader stood on a chair in a small Italian eatery in the Kent town to bellow out a rendition of New York, New York to the delight of his dining companions.

That performance came after several renditions of Hi, Ho Silver Lining, with Farage hollering down the phone to whoever happened to be calling.

A little unsteady on his feet, the Ukip leader then rounded off the night with The Wild Rover outside on the pavement, as aides persuaded him that moving on to a nightclub or revisiting his teenage days of skinny-dipping were not sensible for a party leader two weeks before the most important election of his life.

The immediate cause of Farage’s celebration was a Survation telephone poll commissioned by party donor Alan Bown that suggests the Ukip leader is nine points ahead in his target seat of South Thanet in Kent.

Halfway through the evening, after many glasses of red and some fresh seafood, he leaned across the table to his agent and declared with glee: “We’re bloody winning, aren’t we?”

And the smoking? From the same Guardian report:

An aide at his side held his cigarette during doorstep visits and carried “souvenir” Ukip placards that Farage autographed for residents to display in their windows.

I think that puts yesterday’s nightmare scenario to bed.

 

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18 Responses to Goodbye Nightmare Scenario

  1. harleyrider1978 says:

    So is Farage setting Nutall up to be the new man in charge……………If so good show but he could do it still maintaining his image as a smoker and a drinker……..

  2. Rose says:

    I think the slight panic the other day was a sign of how emotionally bruised we have become after eight years of relentless government sponsored “denormalisation”, it was bound to take it’s toll in some way.

    • smokingscot says:

      @ Rose

      Wholly agree.

      Do check out the latest “poll of polls” and keep an eye on UKIP and “Others”.

      http://www.bbc.com/news/politics/poll-tracker

      It’s as near as darn it 1 in 5 and I know for a fact an awful lot of people (especially in Scotland – (lessons from our “referendum”)) will not admit to any outsider what their voting intentions are.

      Denormalised goes way beyond freezing your buns in a doorway. It does, increasingly, seem that a large chunk of the voting population have had it with anything mainstream in politics (as well as doing the patriotic right thing, like buying UK duty paid ciggies).

  3. harleyrider1978 says:

    Police lines were set up near the most dramatic scenes of violence in Baltimore on Monday afternoon, a CVS that was looted then set ablaze. Protesters angry about police violence, as well as casual observers, congregated nearby.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/04/27/cops-watch-as-baltimore-burns.html

  4. harleyrider1978 says:

    Overhyped electric cars and ethanol are ‘greenwashed’ scams that ultimately cause more pollution…

    Overhyped electric cars and ethanol are ‘greenwashed’ scams that ultimately cause more pollution than fossil fuels

    http://www.naturalnews.com/049504_electric_cars_ethanol_greenwashing.html

  5. harleyrider1978 says:

    The King’s warning: expert says George VI should be anti-smoking image

    Top surgeon suggests images of the Queen’s father, who died at 56 of coronary thrombosis – 90% due to smoking – should serve as warning on cigarette packets

    http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/apr/28/the-kings-warning-expert-says-george-vi-should-be-anti-smoking-image

    • beobrigitte says:

      Didn’t a lot of the Royal Family die of Haemophilia or Porphyria which both are a genetic problem?
      In a lecture on royal operations Ellis said: “I think George VI should be on every cigarette packet, because he had severe vascular disease in his legs – 99% due to smoking. He had carcinoma of the lung – 99% due to smoking. [And] he died of coronary thrombosis – 90% due to smoking.”

      Ellis qualified as a doctor in July 1948 – the same month the NHS was founded – and still teaches anatomy at King’s College, London.

      Oh, dear….. Perhaps this Ellis forgot, if he ever had the ability, to question these utopic percentage figures he so proudly attributes to smoking? I do believe our ‘God’s-waiting-rooms’ are full of people of his generation…

      Another thought – perhaps UKIP is taking the fear-addicts to the next level?

  6. harleyrider1978 says:

    The King’s warning: expert says George VI should be anti-smoking image

    Top surgeon suggests images of the Queen’s father, who died at 56 of coronary thrombosis – 90% due to smoking – should serve as warning on cigarette packets

    Images of the Queen’s father, George VI, should appear on cigarette packets as warning of the perils of smoking, one of Britain’s leading surgeons has suggested.

    Speaking to the Royal College of Surgeons on Tuesday, Prof Harold Ellis said the monarch’s death in 1952 at 56 should serve as a national reminder of the health problems caused by smoking.

    In a lecture on royal operations Ellis said: “I think George VI should be on every cigarette packet, because he had severe vascular disease in his legs – 99% due to smoking. He had carcinoma of the lung – 99% due to smoking. [And] he died of coronary thrombosis – 90% due to smoking.”

    Ellis qualified as a doctor in July 1948 – the same month the NHS was founded – and still teaches anatomy at King’s College, London.

    Ellis said he was working for the medical corp as part of his national service when photographs emerged of an ailing George VI in 1951. “Every doctor and nurse in the country realised he had malignant disease, he looked terrible,” Ellis said.

    At the time four doctors treating him put out a statement saying he had “influenza with slight inflammation of the lung”. Ellis described this as “twaddle”.

    He pointed out that soon after the monarch had a tumorous lung removed by a lung cancer specialist. George VI died the following year.

    The monarch is best known now for his stammer following the success of the Oscar-winning film The King’s Speech. In the film George was frequently depicted lighting up as he struggled with the speech impediment.

    But Ellis said that from a public health perspective George VI should be remembered as a smoker.

    From May 2016 packaging of all cigarettes in England will have to be sold in plain packets with only the brand name and graphic health-warning images permitted on the front.

    Ellis suggested an image of George VI could stand as a health warning. “He should have been an advertisement for cigarettes,” he said.

    The royal family’s endorsement of cigarettes ended in 1999, when it withdrew its royal warrant from the tobacco company Gallaher – the makers of Benson & Hedges and Silk Cut.

    • harleyrider1978 says:

      Doesn’t a royal warrant mean cash to the crown for a cut of the action.

      • Ed says:

        Here’s me thinking it was due to severe inbreeding!
        A nice warning at the bottom of the packet in bold could advise us that aristocracy is bad for one’s health

    • nisakiman says:

      In a lecture on royal operations Ellis said: “I think George VI should be on every cigarette packet, because he had severe vascular disease in his legs – 99% due to smoking. He had carcinoma of the lung – 99% due to smoking. [And] he died of coronary thrombosis – 90% due to smoking.”

      So are we to deduce from that paragraph, from the mouth of a living ‘expert’, that if we smoke, we can expect to die at 56 from those diseases? Or a 96% certainty, anyway, is what is being suggested.

      Odd, is it not, that so many lifetime smokers seem to make it well past that mark in robust good health? And that many never-smokers suffer and die young of those self-same diseases? It couldn’t be that he might be wrong, could it?

      No, no. Perish the thought. He is, after all, an expert. So it must be true.

      • Rose says:

        Oh really? Perhaps Professor Ellis would like to remember what was happening to everyone else in London at the time.

        Mortality in the London Boroughs, 1950—52, with Special Reference to Respiratory Disease

        “Thus bronchitis and pneumonia produced well over 4,000 excess deaths in London during 1950-52.
        But this was by no means the whole of the excess attributed to diseases of the respiratory system, for more than half of the excess deaths in the malignant section of the I.C.D. were caused by cancer of the trachea, bronchus, and lung.
        In addition there was an excess of more than 500 deaths from respiratory tuberculosis.

        Taken together these four diseases of the respiratory system yielded 6,513 more deaths than would have occurred at the rates ruling in England and Wales generally, an excess of 37.3 percent.”

        “It is interesting to note the parallel between these figures and those of a recent study of cancer among British immigrants in New Zealand ( Eastcott, 1956)

        Compared with the native born population, British immigrants had an excessive risk of death from cancer of the lung (but no other site),and this excess was sufficiently greater for persons who had lived in Britain until they were 30 years old than for those who migrated at an earlier age.

        Thus emerges from both studies a consistent relationship between duration of exposure to the putatively noxious environment and risk of later death from respiratory disease.”
        http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1058618/?page=4

        If Professor Ellis qualified as a doctor in 1948 he must surely be aware of the killer smogs in all major industrial cities at the time, especially the Great London Smog of 1952 and the desperate measures the government of the day took to minimise the death statistics.

        I suppose the memory can play tricks.

        From their very own London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine press office –

        Fear of political embarrassment led to government cover up of link between air pollution and lung cancer

        “Smog Conference: Leading historian documents how shift in public health agenda and political necessity combined to keep air pollution off the agenda.

        Delegates attending an international conference in London today to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the Great London Smog of 1952, which caused an estimated 12,000 deaths, will hear how governments from the late 50s onwards deliberately downplayed the huge threat to public health caused by air pollution, and sought to shift the blame firmly onto cigarette smoking instead.

        Professor Virginia Berridge of the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine’s History Unit has researched papers relating to cabinet committee meetings in the late ’50s looking into smoking, air pollution and lung cancer. She asserts that although there were clear political reasons for obscuring the link between air pollution and lung cancer, other factors, including a shifting public health agenda, which focused on an individual¹s responsibility for their health rather then environmental influences, were also key in ensuring that the issue of air pollution was ‘damped down’.”
        http://www.lshtm.ac.uk/pressoffice/press_releases/2002/smogpollution.html

        99% due to smoking? Then again, old habits do die hard.

  7. jltrader says:

    They use the same twisted logic when they blame Gracie Allen’s (wife of George Burns) heart attack and death aged 58 (or 68 as per Wikipedia, birth year is uncertain) on passive smoking. http://archive.tobacco.org/Misc/losses.html Burns, who lived to 100, credited his 10- to 15-cigar-a-day habit over a 70-year span with not only keeping him spry on stage but also with helping him outlive his physician. “If I had taken my doctor’s advice and quit smoking when he advised me to,” Burns quipped at age 98, “I wouldn’t have lived to go to his funeral.”

  8. Jeff says:

    99% ? 90% ? That one must be a top expert, he comes up with very high percentages!
    Most of the time they stay in the 75 – 80% range (must be considered sufficient to scare people).
    As for me, the only percentages that I like are 0% and 100%.

  9. beobrigitte says:

    Paul Nuttal – as far as I know he is a non-smoker, but he is not afraid to voice his views; just a couple of examples here:

    http://thebackbencher.co.uk/paul-nuttall-ukip-if-you-dont-like-prison-conditions-dont-be-a-prolific-criminal/
    “Stopping prisoners from smoking is going to cause unrest in many prisons, as inmates are forced to go cold turkey. I’m no defender of prisoner rights, but since it is impractical to force prisoners to leave the premises whenever they need a cigarette, smoking in prisons may be something we need to allow.

    “This case was brought by one prisoner who felt his rights were being infringed by being exposed to passive smoking. There’s a simple answer to that. If you don’t like prison conditions, don’t be a prolific criminal.

    “I don’t know what the judge has been smoking to come up with this decision, but it is clearly the wrong one.”

    http://www.ukip.org/moves_to_ban_smoking_in_public_parks_are_nonsense_says_ukip_deputy_leader_paul_nuttall

    As for Nigel Farage:
    It sure looks like he is back and kicking!!! And The Guardian is tutting… calling him ‘Boozy Farage’.
    Celebratory, if slightly cacophonous mood at Ramsgate restaurant points to Ukip leader’s renewed confidence about election chances after campaign wobble
    What campaign wobble? And what is wrong with an ad hoc celebration? (I remember them having always been the best!)
    Nothing against green tea and celery sticks – I’d just never dream of celebrating something with them…. Perhaps the healthists are just too afraid of being human? Sure, humans all die at some point in life, but at least Farage can say he TRULY LIVED – unlike the ones who spend their time in paralysing fear of their health deteriorating, especially when they age….

    Farage countered all this by saying Ukip had been consistently underestimated in recent years, but added: “My biggest challenge is to mount an operation to get those people who are not in the habit out and voting. If I can do that, I’ll walk it.”

    I do think there are quite a few of those people who are going to vote for UKIP. And I do hope that MANY disgruntled smokers turn up to vote, too!!!

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  11. jaxthefirst says:

    I noticed today just how few of those estate-agent-style placards are displayed around our local area, and my OH commented on the same. Usually, being a marginal Tory (boo!) versus LibDem (boo!) seat, the place is awash with either blue or orange posters all over the place with (amusingly) one solitary Labour one, which appears every election outside the same house, looking rather glum and hopeless amongst all that blue and orange. But this time around there’s virtually none (I think I pass about five in total on my journey to work, whereas it’s normally ten times that number, at least). It may well be, as you say, Frank, that people are now so disinterested in politics and politicians and parties who have lied to them time and again that although they’ll go and put their cross in their boxes, they just don’t have enough goodwill to help those parties accrue other voters.

    Or, of course, it could be that there are a lot, lot more people, like myself, who are the “silent voters” who aren’t making a big song and dance about who they’re going to vote for by displaying it in placards and posters, but who are just going to go quietly along to the polls on the 7th and, like me, my OH, and just about everyone else we speak to, put their cross in the UKIP box.

    Sometimes, silence can be a very effective tactic for lulling one’s enemies into a false sense of security …

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