Two Political Upheavals

It’s been sunny in England for the past few days, and each day I’ve taken the opportunity to find a pub garden in which to sit with a beer and a cigarette.

I was thinking about how, in their lives, people get caught up in political events of one sort or other. They get caught up in wars and revolutions and famines and droughts. But I didn’t get caught up in anything like that. I’ve never been in fear of losing my life. I’ve never been a refugee.  I’ve never been homeless or penniless or even hungry.

I’ve been lucky. I’ve had a very easy life.

The biggest political upheavals I’ve been caught up in have both been… smoking bans.

It’s quite amusing really.

And yet both of them brought considerable social upheaval and division.

The first smoking ban was the pot smoking ban which my generation started flouting in the 1960s. I don’t know quite how it happened, or why it happened. But I arrived back in university one day to find my friends sitting round giggling. While I was away they’d somehow got hold of some pot, and they were all smoking it. I was horrified, and, at least to start with, refused to touch the stuff.

But everything changed after that. And it never really ever quite went back to normal. Because fairly soon people were being arrested and charged with possession, and fined and sometimes even sent to prison. And a whole bunch of intelligent middle class kids had become long-haired outsiders with their own subculture, deeply estranged from the “straight” culture around them, in which they’d grown up.

There followed all the psychedelic music of the era, and psychedelic drugs to go with it. It was a strange and turbulent time in which to live.

I suppose that I gradually got sick of the subculture’s mysticism and irrationality and cultishness. And 10 years later I was back in university, working in research, building electronics, and writing computer programmes. I’d returned to classical reason, and to “straight” culture. I’d returned to normality.

And most of my university friends did the same. I’d run into them a few years later, and they’d got married and bought houses and were holding down jobs. The social divisions that had emerged in the 1960s gradually healed over.

Yet the subculture never died. It’s still around. There are lots of people still smoking pot. A fair number of my fellow computer programmers more or less swore by it. I’d guess that about half the country smokes pot (or has done so at one time or other), and has been continuing to do so for many decades. It’s endemic.

But I pretty much returned to beer and cigarettes. And mathematics and reason.

Which is where we get to the second smoking ban: the tobacco smoking ban. And once again I found myself an outsider, and deeply estranged from the newly-antismoking main culture around me. I seek out fellow tobacco smokers these days like I used to seek out fellow pot smokers back in the 1960s. There are many, many parallels between the two periods.

Not the least of which is that they both centre on legal prohibitions on smoking the dried leaves of a plant.

You’d think that people would have better things to do than become fixated on something so utterly trivial, so utterly unimportant, as smoking.

But some people can manage it. They really are quite incredibly small-minded.

Which reminds me that my latest batch of tobacco plants has emerged in the sunshine of the past few days. That’s another parallel. I used to grow pot back in the 1970s. But that was then. Now I grow tobacco.


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  1. Back about 1982 I had a lil garage apt near Ocala Fl. My buddys in the navy was over enjoying the sauna and a cookout but we had this big plywood fense 8 feet tall all around the patio and such and you couldn’t see anything. The weeds I saw had gotton higher than the fence top so one of my buddys grabs the ladder and looks over to see…………….

    He came back with a big hand full of green Buds growing from wild MJ………….

    I looked over the fence and for 50 feet it was nothing but pot plants growing crazy everywhere……

    My landlady was 80 and never mowed much less looked at anything. But we sure did. By the time we got don’t bagging and hanging it we had 200 pounds or more of green pot everywhere.

    But back then nobody gave a shit. Lake county had one cop out there in the woods and he was never around much less the hiway patrol.

    So we gave it away to everyone we knew……….The shit of it is I don’t even like pot! LOL

  2. waltc says:

    Carryover from yesterday:
    I credit Carole Thompson for posting this at Siegel’s. It’s the philosophy behind the latest NIOSH proposal for a nationwide ban on workplace smoking and stepped-up employer-based quit-nagging that’s apparently been brewing for quite a while.

    Under the headline: Tear down the company fence; build total worker health programs” the NIOSH director wrote: ” Earlier this year (2011) , NIOSH and its partners introduced the Total Worker Health program. This is our vision for identifying and promoting integrated health programs in the workplace and recognizing the multitude of factors that influence a person’s health, safety, ability to work, and well-being in every aspect of their lives. It recognizes that greater advances can be made by addressing the individual’s health and safety holistically-by eliminating hazards at work while also using the workplace as a platform for healthy life choices—than by looking at work and personal life in isolation.”

    So. Your home life affects your work life and it’s therefore your employer’s and the government’s business to correct and control it. Achtung, lab rats. Your personal life is no longer personal.

    • Niosh just put out a new policy paper on it written basically by the CDC foundation. Which is a non profit anti-smoking group wthin CDC itself. I have called them a few times thre the years and always got quite a good laugh as their folks are as dumb as rocks…….

      • Isnt it sweet every agency ever created is now out to criminalize us the regular joe citizen………

        • DenisO says:

          Since you’re in the States, I wonder if you noticed that marijuana is no longer hated by society’s “bright lights”, but tobacco still is. Colorado legalized it, and American ingenuity has managed to raise the intoxicating chemical substance in the new stuff by about 300%. The word “stoned” has a new definition, and many bright students are victims of its toxicity. Those that seem to have disappeared, generally, have just dropped out and lost their motivation, with some I.Q., sadly. The medical studies look bad, and many young victims will never recover. Like bathtub gin during our Prohibition, poisoning was common. Soon, the reality will hit, and will you support anti-MJ bans?
          I’m not sure if they’re enforcing pot laws here in California anymore, either. It now seems considered normal and progressive by the usual critics, I guess, so you can see the hypocrisy of tobacco bans. The new stuff really is bad for everyone it contacts.
          Smokers are the victims of choice in an unserious society that anoints and destroys groups, according to the latest fashion. Smokers are taking their turn in the “barrel”, but that will get old, soon enough. The pain of it is not unbearable; there’s’ worse.

  3. Rose says:

    my latest batch of tobacco plants has emerged in the sunshine of the past few days

    Excellent news for the bees, though it’s not ment to be, courtesy of yet another smoker bashing story from the Daily Mail.

    Forget people, PLANTS are passive smokers too: Shrubs absorb nicotine from cigarette fumes and soil, study finds
    8 April 2015

    “Now, researchers have shown that passive smoking affects plants too, which can take up nicotine from contaminated soil and plumes of smoke.
    The finding may explain why some spices, herbal teas and medicinal plants have high concentrations of nicotine in them, despite none being allowed in insecticides.”

    “Nicotine was frequently used as an insecticide until it was banned by the European Union in 2009 because of its toxicity.

    But a surprisingly large number of food crops and plant-derived products still contain very high levels of nicotine.”

    Nicotine Reduces Parasite Infection In Bees Up To 81 Percent
    February 17th 2015

    “Chemicals in floral nectar, including the alkaloids anabasine and nicotine, the iridoid glycoside catalpol and the terpenoid thymol, significantly reduce parasite infection in bees, which may mean that that growing plants high in these compounds around farm fields could improve survival of diseased bees and therefore maintain more consistent pollination of crops.”

    The researchers studied parasite infections in bumble bees, which like honey bees are important pollinators that are in decline around the world, a trend that threatens fruits, vegetables and other crops that make up much of the food supply for people.

    So now we know that non-nicotine containing plants can take up nicotine from the roots and hopefully produce traces of nicotine in their nectar. Emptying ash trays into pots of mint could help save your local bees though I’d suggest that additive free tobacco would be better for the purpose.

    “Nicotine was frequently used as an insecticide until it was banned by the European Union in 2009 because of its toxicity.”

    Or was it banned to clear the field for the big agricultural chemical companies and their new synthetic neonicotinoids?

    “In 2008 neonicotinoids came under increasing scrutiny over their environmental impacts starting in Germany. Neonicotinoid use was linked in a range of studies to adverse ecological effects, including honey-bee colony collapse disorder (CCD) and loss of birds due to a reduction in insect populations. In 2013, the European Union and a few non EU countries restricted the use of certain neonicotinoids”

    • Rose says:

      Bees thrive on nicotine in nectar
      February 18 2015

      “People should plant flowers rich in nicotine, scientists have advised after a study found that the chemical helps to stave off disease in bees.

      Nicotine is one of a number of compounds that occur in a natural “medicine cabinet” in the nectar of some flowers. It cut the intensity of infections in bumblebees by as much as 81 per cent, biologists at Dartmouth College, New Hampshire, report in Proceedings of the Royal Society B.”

      Use of tobacco smoke against parasitic mite syndrome – 2006


      In early August there was a check up and comparison between the colonies that had been treated with tobacco smoke and those which had not. There was a great difference in honeybee populations; those which had been treated being more populous. The bees were more active in foraging and collecting nectar.”

      Though having completed my experiments successfully, I now leave the curing to the Santa Fe Natural Tobacco Company, I still grow tobacco for the bees.
      I ‘m very happy to say that these days my garden is quite literally swarming with several different varieties of bees which all seem to be in very good health.

      Overall, I thank my lucky stars I took up smoking 42 years ago, otherwise the anti-smokers would never annoyed me enough to find out so many useful things. It’s been expensive but invaluable.

      • beobrigitte says:

        Thanks, Rose! I shall pass this on to my uncle (bee keeper)

        “People should plant flowers rich in nicotine, scientists have advised after a study found that the chemical helps to stave off disease in bees.

        It does point to something else, though, too. To my knowledge no antiviral properties have been assigned to nicotine – but I do know it has anti-bacterial properties. Anybody with sense (unfortunately needing money that is being wasted on destroying nicotine delivering gadgets, such as cigarettes and e-cigarettes) will start culturing….

        • beobrigitte says:

          Parasites are a pain but they are not directly responsible for the rapid decline of the honey bee. In my mind the bee stocks are already infected with a bacterial strain and the parasites have an easily accessible host.

        • DenisO says:

          Good info, thanks. I was a bee-keeper for 25 years or so. Unbelievably hard work; I also have had a *non-profit” palm and exotic plant nursery and still do. All I know for sure about tobacco is that handling tomato plants with nicotine on your hands kills the plants, quickly. Tobacco is one of the “nightshade” species family (Solanaceae) that include egg plants, tomatoes, and potatoes. Egg plant also have a very high nicotine content in leaves.

          Read more :

          We used to “smoke” the bee colonies to make them eat honey, the fuel they need to evacuate the hive in an emergency. When they eat honey, they can’t sting, so we could go in and mess with their home, taking honey, cleaning, inspecting, even dividing the colony. I did that with a queen I bought mail-order from Sears, as a matter of fact. I used very old horse manure in my smoker, as it was mild and slow burning (and available). Tobacco might be healthier for them as Rose reported, but I’d have to check that, since many “truths” on the internet are not that. The linked article says green tomatoes have high nicotine content. Also, tobacco is so expensive here, with taxes; you don’t see many butts around.

          I quit the hobby just before the decline began, but we had no bacteria problems. Mites that attacked the brood (larvae) were starting to become prevalent. Bees are notorious thieves, as raiders of weak colonies. They’d come back with the mites attached and spread them to their home, wiping-out their replacement workers.
          The Government was importing an Australian wasp that was supposed to be the mite’s natural predator. That was 20 years ago; honey bees are still weak here, however. I do see more tiny wasps than I remember, mostly cleaning-up the aphids on roses, etc. Bees guard the entrance to their homes, so the mites may have been discouraged.

        • Rose says:

          Birds use cigarette butts to line nests, St Andrews University study finds

          “Birds are keeping their nests warm and pest-free by lining them with cigarette butts, research at St Andrews University has suggested.

          The nicotine and other chemicals in discarded filters act as a natural pesticide that repels parasitic mites.

          At the same time, the cellulose butts provide useful nest insulation.

          Wild birds are also known to protect their nests from mite invasion by importing certain chemical-emitting plants.

          The new evidence suggests some bird species in the cities have adapted the same behaviour to harness the repellent properties of tobacco.”

          A quick smoke? It’s good for the wings

          “Birds are picking up discarded cigarette butts and using the smoke to fumigate their wings of parasites, experts said yesterday.

          Rooks have been spotted swooping on to the tracks at Exeter St David’s railway station in Devon and placing their wings over the smoke to collect the fumes underneath.

          Commuter Jeff Jones, of Budleigh Salterton, said: “I noticed the rooks because they are not usually found in towns. They were generally flapping about when a chap flicked a cigarette butt on to the track.

          “It was still all right and one of the rooks swooped down and picked up the butt with its beak. It then flew around and landed on the platform, dancing around with this smoking cigarette in its beak.

          It looked quite comical. But then it dropped the butt on the platform and pulled its wings over it, collecting the smoke. It seemed as if it were using the smoke to rid itself of perhaps ants or something similar.

          “Five minutes later another rook, or perhaps the same one, swooped in when another cigarette was flicked away and repeated the whole thing.”

          A small service it’s now too expensive to provide.

          Dorset man fined £779 for dropping a cigarette
          http: //

        • Rose my wife just freaked out weve got 4 birds nests being built in back porch deck and 2 of them have as many as 20 ciggy butts in each…………she dint believe me when I told her last year about why birds use them,now she is a believer………

        • Some French bloke says:

          “Rooks are very intelligent.”

          Other birds are also ‘downy coves’ and quite impervious to propaganda, like those two crows spotted in the Maldives:

        • prog says:

          Great shot of the rooks.

          If they’d managed to nick a lighter it may have ended in tears – for the owner of the building…

  4. Blown Away Bloomberg and Obamas best gop buddy is anti tobacco control at least where it counts in money.

    Gov. Chris Christie’s recently proposed lack of funding for New Jersey’s tobacco control program is a ,major concern. New Jersey is the only state that does not allocate any state dollars for this crucial program, despite collecting close to $700 million in tobacco tax revenue annually. This is an extremely costly and unnecessary road to take, and any short-term savings are dwarfed by the staggering toll tobacco use takes on our economy and our health care.

    In 2009 it was estimated that more than 4,000 New Jerseyans died prematurely from cancers caused by smoking. Tobacco costs the residents an estimated $4 billion in health care costs, including more than $900 million in Medicaid expenditures.

    New Jersey needs to bolster its tobacco prevention and cessation program now. I urge New Jersey’s lawmakers to oppose the governor’s proposed zero funding of this program. This is a Band-aid for budget concerns, and we cannot afford to be fooled into thinking it is the solution.

    Jennifer Morris


    American Cancer Society Cancer Action Network (ACS CAN)


  5. Frank Davis says:

    OT. From SteveA in About:

    It looks as if someone has picked up on your asteroid/meteorite theory

    While the study does not claim that asteroid 2014 UR116 sent the Annama meteorite directly at Earth, it suggests the two bodies are related.

    Scientists believe that streams of asteroid fragments can travel on nearly identical orbits.
    Tidal forces may disperse the debris over time and asteroids can also break up due to the pull of large planets.

    ‘The tidal effect on an asteroid, which rapidly rotates under the gravitational field of a planet, can fragment these objects or release large rocks from its surface,’ said Trigo.
    ‘[This] could then become such dangerous projectiles at a local scale as the one fell in Cheliábinsk (Russia) on February 15th 2013’.

    Manuel Moreno-Ibáñez, CSIC researcher that participated in the study, explains: ‘The data we have obtained provided new clues about the origin of the rocks with a few meters in diameter that produce meteorite falls.

    ‘So far, we only know the orbits of other 22 meteorites, and not always with the sought accuracy.’
    The researchers hope their latest study will help shed light on how asteroid create projectiles, and which ones pose a threat to Earth.

    Yes, that’s the idea. That there can be streams of rocks, lying in more or less the same orbit. They’re created during close approaches by asteroids to the Sun or other planets, when asteroids can spin up and break apart, producing clouds of rocks.

    • beobrigitte says:

      ‘The tidal effect on an asteroid, which rapidly rotates under the gravitational field of a planet, can fragment these objects or release large rocks from its surface,’ said Trigo.
      It took them quite some time to catch up…. Even to a novice like me the above makes sense – and that was on my mind when chelablinsk was hit. I was celebrating when reading Frank’s post at the time.
      So, really, it’s Frank who should be credited!!!

  6. Japan To Build 40+ New Coal Power Plants – Climate Change Dispatch

    Japan has 43 coal power projects either under construction or planned, representing combined…

  7. beobrigitte says:

    I was thinking about how, in their lives, people get caught up in political events of one sort or other. They get caught up in wars and revolutions and famines and droughts. But I didn’t get caught up in anything like that. I’ve never been in fear of losing my life. I’ve never been a refugee. I’ve never been homeless or penniless or even hungry.
    I’ve never been in fear of losing my life. I’ve never been a refugee. I’ve never been homeless but I have been penniless and I have been hungry to some extend. And I do remember people helping me out. It’s what a close knit community does – or better, DID, before the yuppies and the selfrighteous emerged.

    The biggest political upheavals I’ve been caught up in have both been… smoking bans.
    I, personally, find the smoking bans much more difficult to handle than being penniless. Whenever the BBC proudly announces more torture to come for the smokers, I feel very THREATENED because whatever the BBC is soooo proud of to pack into the news spells persecution and social isolation for me. If I was e.g. gay, they’d speak up for me (and just never mention the fact that I’m a smoker). Being straight (I have no problem with gay people!) and a smoker puts me into the position of the rest of our society being incited to kick me out of my community.
    This isn’t EQUAL RIGHTS, is it? I guess, some groups in our community are just more equal. Not even women’s lib will provide me with an ashtray, even though I do believe in equality. But then, women’s lib has been going off the common sense rails for a long time – just as the smoker haters have.
    I am no longer penniless, less even hungry. I am saving each month quite a lot of cash – my tobacco isn’t bought in England and I go out only very rarely here. I am expected to pay for my drinks/food and the person providing me with this (in exchange for ££££) is not allowed to make me comfortable since 1.7.2007.
    The customer is ‘King’?

    • Bandit 1 says:

      Smokers are, as we all here know, just the first ‘casualties’ in a general assault on liberty. That the majority still don’t see this, and still think that anti-smoking measures are some kind of special, isolated case, can only be because they themselves have yet to have some aspect of their liberty taken away. It’s depressing that people can be so blinkered, but there it is.

      But of course, as we all here know, that majority will shrink as time and the assault on liberty march relentlessly on, and more eyes are opened as a consequence.

      I live in hope that, when the tipping point is finally reached, and (as Frank has predicted) the corrupt ones behind junk science, behaviour modification and all the rest of it are thrown out, a general move to increase liberty will include the restoration of smokers’ rights.


        2008 Regular Session

        To: Public Health and Human Services; Judiciary B

        By: Representative Mayhall, Read, Shows

        House Bill 282


        SECTION 1. (1) The provisions of this section shall apply to any food establishment that is required to obtain a permit from the State Department of Health under Section 41-3-15(4)(f), that operates primarily in an enclosed facility and that has five (5) or more seats for customers.

        (2) Any food establishment to which this section applies shall not be allowed to serve food to any person who is obese, based on criteria prescribed by the State Department of Health after consultation with the Mississippi Council on Obesity Prevention and Management established under Section 41-101-1 or its successor. The State Department of Health shall prepare written materials that describe and explain the criteria for determining whether a person is obese, and shall provide those materials to all food establishments to which this section applies. A food establishment shall be entitled to rely on the criteria for obesity in those written materials when determining whether or not it is allowed to serve food to any person.

        (3) The State Department of Health shall monitor the food establishments to which this section applies for compliance with the provisions of this section, and may revoke the permit of any food establishment that repeatedly violates the provisions of this section.

        SECTION 2. This act shall take effect and be in force from and after July 1, 2008

        • The Vetting – Holder 1995: We Must ‘Brainwash’ People on Guns like we did on cigarettes

 has uncovered video from 1995 of then-U.S. Attorney Eric Holder announcing a public campaign to “really brainwash people into thinking about guns in a vastly different way.”
          Holder was addressing the Woman’s National Democratic Club. In his remarks, broadcast by CSPAN 2, he explained that he intended to use anti-smoking campaigns as his model to “change the hearts and minds of people in Washington, DC” about guns.

          “What we need to do is change the way in which people think about guns, especially young people, and make it something that’s not cool, that it’s not acceptable, it’s not hip to carry a gun anymore, in the way in which we changed our attitudes about cigarettes.”

          Holder added that he had asked advertising agencies in the nation’s capital to assist by making anti-gun ads rather than commercials “that make me buy things that I don’t really need.” He had also approached local newspapers and television stations, he said, asking them to devote prime space and time, respectively, to his anti-gun campaign.

          Local political leaders and celebrities, Holder said, including Mayor Marion Barry and Jesse Jackson, had been asked to help. In addition, he reported, he had asked the local school board to make the anti-gun message a part of “every day, every school, and every level.”

          Despite strict gun control efforts, Washington, DC was and remains one of the nation’s most dangerous cities for gun violence, though crime has abated somewhat since the 1990s.

          Holder went on to become Deputy Attorney General in the Clinton administration, and currently serves as Attorney General in the Obama Administration.

          The video of Holder’s remarks was uncovered by contributor Charles C. Johnson.

        • Framework Convention on Obesity Control
          Posted on November 19, 2014 by Frank Davis
          Oh dear. They’re talking about an FCTC treaty to deal with obesity. FCOC?

          In a global show of support for increased efforts to tackle diet-related ill health, leading health campaigners and consumer advocates from across the world have publically endorsed calls for a tobacco-style Global Convention to protect and promote healthy diets.

          With the world’s governments gathering in Rome this week for a conference that aims to address malnutrition in all its forms, an open letter calling for a binding treaty has been sent to the heads of the WHO and FAO, co-authored by Consumers International, the World Obesity Federation, the UK Health Forum and consumer groups in Fiji and Mexico, with the support of over 320 individuals and organisations.

          The letter urges greater action to protect and promote healthy diets using a similar mechanism to the Framework Convention for Tobacco Control which has already proved successful in reducing tobacco use. The letter is addressed to WHO Director General Dr Margaret Chan, and FAO Director General José Graziano da Silva, ahead of the International Conference on Nutrition (19-21 November, Rome).

          The letter states that ‘the governance of food production and distribution cannot be left to economic interests alone,’ and urges governments to take regulatory action to reduce children’s exposure to marketing, to impose compositional limits on the saturated fat, added sugar and sodium content of food, to bring in fiscal measures to discourage the consumption of unhealthy foods, and to require all trade and investment policies to be assessed for their potential health impacts.

          The authors, who have already drafted a Global Convention to Protect and Promote Healthy Diets, state such a treaty can ‘help Member States, particularly smaller nations, to maintain a robust defence of public health for their citizens.’

          Amanda Long, Director General of Consumers International said “Diseases like obesity, diabetes, heart disease and cancer are increasing in all regions of the world, most rapidly in developing countries. The policy actions that governments take now will determine whether we can turn the tide on this health crisis. A binding Global Convention offers the best hope of protecting and promoting the health of all consumers.” (my emphases)

          If it’s anything like the War on Smokers, then we may expect restrictions or bans on fat, sugar, salt, in public places (i.e. restaurants, hotels, take-aways). The idea will be to ‘denormalise’ traditional foods, and replace them with ‘healthy’ alternatives. which will all be vegetarian.

          The result will be that, instead of just a few restaurants being vegetarian (as at present), they all will be. And the food in them will be served in ‘healthy’ small portions. It will be hailed as a ‘great success’ from Day One, particularly among meat-eaters, 70% of whom will claim to want to quit eating meat. There will be numerous studies showing how heart attack or cancer cases drop after the introduction of the anti-obesity bans.

          But the result will be that many people will stop going to restaurants, and many of them will go bust. Most people will continue to cook whatever they like at home, but taxation on meat, fat, sugar, and salt will mean that people will be forced to cut back, unless they can get smuggled meat or sugar. There’ll be a revival of Sunday Lunches, when after a week of eating rice and lentils, a roast leg of (Hungarian) lamb will appear on the dinner table, followed by (Estonian) black forest gateau with (Siberian) double cream. Friends will come round with strings of real sausages, and little bags of sugar and salt,

          What meat and sugar and salt that is still available at inflated prices in shops will come in plain packaging, and plastered with health warnings. “Meat Kills.” “Sugar Blocks Your Arteries.” “Salt Can Damage Unborn Children.”

          Lots of people will become meat-haters, and declare that they can’t stand the ‘stench’ of frying bacon. The President of the United States will publicly give up eating meat, largely at the insistence of his/her wife/husband – but will in fact eat cheeseburgers in secret,

          Meat-eating will now be described as an ‘addiction’, and Big Pharma will market expensive Meat Replacement Therapies, which will actually be minute amounts of fat, to stick on your arm with plasters. These won’t reduce cravings for meat.

          Instead e-food will appear. This will be food that looks just like traditional food, but is actually wholly synthetic. An e-chicken will look just like a chicken, but will actually be a cleverly woven soy bean product. The WHO will outlaw e-foods because they ‘look like traditional foods we’re trying to de-normalise’.

          Big Meat – cattle farms and their distributors – will be demonised, and excluded from policy debates.

          As the War on Obesity mounts, obesity will indeed dwindle. Nearly everyone will become thin and emaciated. But this will be described as being ‘leaner and fitter’, even though the leanest and fittest will tend to die off quicker than others. Diseases of malnutrition will re-appear.

          As the ‘health crisis’ deepens (and by now there really will be a health crisis), there will be calls for tighter controls and further restrictions. Portion sizes in restaurants will be halved, and home cooking outlawed…

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      • They got a plan for everyone and its all a carbon copy of the tobacco prohibition plan……Besides its all the same people doing all of it. We win the tobacco war and get the repeals rolling in the rest will die with it. Defeating the bans is the key to winning everybody elses freedom whether they know it yet or not.

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