RIP Internet?

RIP Internet? Ron Paul:

Today the Federal Communications Commission (FCC), a non-elected federal government agency, voted three-to-two to reclassify broadband Internet as a common carrier service under Title II of the Communications Act. This means that – without the vote of Congress, the peoples’ branch of government – a federal agency now claims the power to regulate the Internet. I am surprised that even among civil liberties groups some claim the federal government increasing regulation of the Internet somehow increases our freedom and liberty.

The truth is very different. The adoption of these FCC rules on the Internet represents the largest regulatory power grab in recent history. The FCC’s newly adopted rule takes the most dynamic means of communication and imposes the regulatory structure designed for public utilities. Federal regulation could also open the door to de facto censorship of ideas perceived as threatening to the political class – ideas like the troops should be brought home, the PATRIOT Act should be repealed, military spending and corporate welfare should be cut, and the Federal Reserve should be audited and ended.

The one bright spot in this otherwise disastrous move is that federal regulations making it more difficult to use the Internet will cause more Americans to join our movement for liberty, peace, and prosperity. The federal government should keep its hands off of the Internet!

Dave Hitt also.

And RIP Spock:


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21 Responses to RIP Internet?

  1. jaxthefirst says:

    I guess this is no surprise, really, is it? Dictatorial authorities around the world have been itching to find a way to control this pesky Internet thingummy for years now. In this country (although I realise that this ruling emanates from the US), this mindset ties in with my personal theory that politicians are determined to close down all places where people meet casually, chat with each other, squabble, exchange opinions and – horror of horrors! – might actually discover that they all despise their current rulers equally. To those seeking to close down such dangerous conversations, the smoking ban, lowering the drink-drive limit, putting increasingly onerous taxation and regulation on pub/club owners etc have all been very useful steps towards this aim. The places which remain are “meeting places” in name only – the kind of easy, putting-the-world-to-rights conversations which go on in the local pub or one’s local club just don’t happen in restaurants or cafes or theatres or cinemas or sports venues. The trouble is, for many people (such as myself), now that the usual meeting/chatting places are no longer available, the Internet has taken its place, and I don’t think they envisaged that that would happen. It’ll be interesting to see if the UK Government try and emulate this ruling in any way; oftentimes, if they see another country “getting away with it” it gives them the courage to give it a go themselves. One to watch, methinks.

    Oh, and on Spock – did you read that he blamed his death (from COPD) on smoking, even though he gave up 30 years ago? Seriously, he did. Isn’t that a bit like someone contracting Tuberculosis and blaming it on the fact that they went travelling in the Far East in the 1990’s – conveniently overlooking the fact that since that time, and right up until the present day, they’d regularly visited countless other areas of the world which are rife with TB …

    • Seeing as how COPD is a generic term of ANY lung function problem and its actual date of birth as a term originates to the beginning of the real anti-tobacco movement at aound the same time they got smokers identified as addicts in 1989,it all comes down to one true thing………..its all a made up FARCE beginning to end.

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    • The internet control they’ve tried 3 times before each time the courts over ruled them.

    • now that the usual meeting/chatting places are no longer available, the Internet has taken its place, and I don’t think they envisaged that that would happen.

      They created an army against them when the net was left as the meeting place for outlaws! Franks Blog among many have become that community Pub/Coffee shop we all visit and perform great acts of defiance against the Nazis. The information put out here for the general public to read and the high numbers of hits means the word is out there and everybody who cares knows its all been BS since Dolls first study…………

  2. waltc says:

    A few days ago, someone posted something to the effect that NRT (with its nicotine) wasn’t harmful to fetuses. But here’s something even more interesting. Study showing smoking has no ill effects, but NRT does:

    Smoking mothers were younger, weighed less, consumed more alcohol, and had received less education. Children exposed to prenatal tobacco smoking had no increase in congenital malformations prevalence compared with the nonexposed children in both crude and adjusted analyses. Children born to nonsmokers, but who used nicotine substitutes, had a slightly increased relative congenital malformations prevalence ratio; relative prevalence rate ratio was 1.61 (95% confidence interval 1.01-2.58), which represents a 60% increased risk. When the analysis was restricted to musculoskeletal malformations, the relative prevalence rate ratio was 2.63 (95% confidence interval 1.53-4.52).
    Our results showed no increase in congenital malformations related to prenatal tobacco smoking. However, we identified an increase of malformations risk in nonsmokers using nicotine substitutes. “


  3. mikef317 says:

    I don’t want to get involved in a long debate, but, based on very limited knowledge….

    Regulating mass communication media is hardly new, and there are many economic issues involved in net neutrality. (I’ll mostly avoid the latter.)

    Historically, we have (from the 1950’s) broadcast TV, followed by cable TV, followed by dial-up internet, followed by cable and now satellite internet. Right or wrong, there was always regulation. There was also self-censorship by corporations.

    1950’s, you bought a TV and got maybe a half dozen channels. Married men and women slept in twin beds, in pajamas. Then came cable, and you might actually see a woman’s breast (and eventually much more), and you could hear lots of “dirty” words.

    Then came the internet. First via dial-up land-based telephone lines. But cable TV companies could also offer this service, and they did.

    In New York City, when cable TV was new (long before cable companies offered internet and telephone services), Time Warner spent years and a ton of money linking their TV service to every house in the city. There was a law that gave them a monopoly; only TW could lay cable. If you lived on Long Island, other local governments dealt with Comcast, and gave them a monopoly. This was typical of the U. S. If you wanted cable TV you dealt with the local monopoly or you didn’t get cable TV.

    Time Warner didn’t start from scratch. They used existing above and below ground facilities to lay their cable. These infrastructures were built by telephone, gas and electric companies, and by the city’s water and sewage services. They all cost huge amounts of money and took over a century to create. Who owns this stuff today? What monetary interests do they have? Damned if I know (and I’m not inclined to find out). But Time Warner used facilities that had already been built. Their cable was integrated into the local infrastructure.

    Today there are many more ways to connect to the internet, but I think most people get service from their cable TV provider, probably from a wire that comes into their house.

    On the initial question. Is this a power grab by a rogue federal agency attempting to regulate the internet as a public utility? Or is the internet (the hard-wired portion at least) actually a public utility, delivering a Time Warner wire to my house, just like telephone, gas, electricity, and water are supplied to my house by other companies, or (for water) by a government agency? Interesting question. For now, I’ll pass on the answer.


    Re “non-elected” federal agencies. There are lots of them (and lots more at state and local levels). ALL were created by elected officials. The U. S. Congress (with the approval of the President and sometimes the Supreme Court) delegates law making authority to these agencies. This just about has to be done. NOBODY is knowledgeable enough to deal with all the issues that need regulating. Hence the agencies. Like it or not (and I’m no fan of overreaching bureaucrats) for the foreseeable future, we will have agencies issuing regulations.

    But what Congress giveth, Congress can take away. If the FCC decides to regulate speech on the internet, it will get lots of Americans (right and left) mad, and there will be lots of calls and letters to Congress – and the law will be changed, or current members of Congress will be changed until we get people who stop the FCC.

    At the moment, I’m not worried about the FCC censoring anything. But we’ll see what happens….

    • Federal agencies are not constitutional they only found constitutionality by redefining the interstate commerce clause. The clause meant purely that no fees could be charged crossing stateliness and that’s it. Now they took it and made it anything that crosses stateline boundaries falls under federal jurisdiction. Its also where the 1954 civil rights act gets its so called constutuionality…………..its all lies. The revenues for the federal government were laid down in the constitution and that included taxes on whiskey and import/export duties and that was pretty much it………….

      Every dept of federal governmental agencies use regulatory rule to side step the constitution and that’s why they were made to take control and destroy states rights…….

      Nullification is a big issue in todays world where a state has the right to nullify federal rules or lawswithin their respective states………..that’s an on going debate and fight that could lead to another civil war of another kind. Texas being the primary state wit legal grounds to secede or nullify federal intervention as it was an independent country within itself.

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      The high tax burden on tobacco results in de facto prohibition of the products, bringing all the undesirable outcomes associated with alcohol prohibition in the 1920s. In our research we have found evidence of substantial tobacco smuggling from low to high tax jurisdictions, violent crime, theft of tobacco and tobacco tax stamps, corruption of law-enforcement officers, and even funding of terrorist organizations through crime rings.


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  5. Rose says:

    Following on from Channel 4’s

    Ukip: The First Hundred Days imagines Nigel Farage in power – and reveals a Britain in meltdown
    15 February 2015
    http: //–and-britain-in-meltdown-10046787.html


    Meet the Ukippers, review: ‘riveting’
    Toxic fly-on-the-wall footage exposed Ukip’s shortcomings – on BBC2 22 Feb 2015
    http: //

    Tonight’s unmissable offering comes from BBC 4 at 10 o’clock.

    Storyville programme “The Great European Disaster Movie

    Ukip savages “BBC bias” over “pro-EU mockumentary” and questions Corporation’s EU funding

    I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything like this in the run up to a General Election before.

    • Rose they did pretty much the same thing last time around and UKIP kicked their NAZI arses anyway.

    • beobrigitte says:

      I was determind to watch this “mockumentary” – I have to admit defeat. I REALLY could not bring myself to watch past 10 minutes. It’s too badly done, sorry.

      The publicity is good for UKIP, though. There will be people who check their web site….

    • nisakiman says:

      Yes, it’s a hatchet job, Rose. It’s quite heartening, really, insofar as it shows just how seriously they take the threat of an ascendent UKIP. If they didn’t see them as a real threat to their hegemony, they wouldn’t be expending all this time, money and effort trying to portray UKIP as the political pariah.

      Farage has obviously got something right!

  6. beobrigitte says:

    This means that – without the vote of Congress, the peoples’ branch of government – a federal agency now claims the power to regulate the Internet.

    What happened to “Freedom of Speech”? Are we becoming citizen of extended China or Iran?

    RIP, Leonard Nimoy – giving up smoking might not produce the desired result. 83 is not quite a youngster, though!
    Helmut Schmitt (96) is still around. Roumors have it that he has a stash of his “Reyno” (menthol cigarettes) as the EU wants to forbit menthol cigarettes.

    I begin to become a believer in that our death date is pre-determind – mostly we don’t know it. So, there is no need to worry about ‘health’ etc. There is no such thing as ‘premature’ death that ‘could have been avoided’. Worrying just makes life miserable.

  7. beobrigitte says:

    Off topic:
    Prof. Grieshaber posted his interview with Prof Ropohl about his book: “worry-society”

    “Every day I count my worries – because I worry a lot”

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