Real Cancer Sticks At Last

A few news items caught my eye. All doom and disaster stories of one sort or other. The USA is about to walk off a fiscal cliff, it seems:

Markets fall amid fading hopes of last-minute fiscal cliff deal

Stock markets fell on both sides of the Atlantic as hopes faded that President Barack Obama can cut a last-ditch deal to prevent the US being hit by a blitz of tax rises and spending cuts next week.

With just three days left to prevent the world’s largest economy sliding over the so-called fiscal cliff, President Obama and Congressional leaders met in the White House in a bid to find an agreement. However, with no sign of the divisions between Democrats and Republicans on tax rates and government spending softening, optimism an accord will be reached was evaporating on Wall Street and in the City of London.

The FTSE 100 fell 0.5pc to 5,924.13, while on Wall Street the Dow Jones Industrial Average dropped 0.7pc to 13,000.20.

Until this week, most investors remained confident that Congress and the White House would reach an agreement to avoid most of the $600bn of tax rises and spending cuts that has become known as the fiscal cliff.

It seems to be a stand-off between the White House and Congress, to see who blinks first. And nobody has blinked yet. But it seems that the real crunch is a couple of months away.

The real deadline is, once again, the debt ceiling which legally prevents the Administration from borrowing beyond a certain amount in cash terms. After some last-minute fiddles from the Treasury, the US will be due to exceed its debt ceiling sometime in late February or early March. That’s the real crunch moment – when the Federal government might have to face shut-down.

Harley has a helpful comment on this.

In other news, there seem to be a lot of politicians contradicting each other about Britain’s role in the EU.

The man who chairs EU summits, Herman Van Rompuy, has warned that UK attempts to repatriate powers from the EU could seriously fracture the 27-nation bloc.

Mr Van Rompuy told the UK’s Guardian newspaper that if every state were able to “cherry pick” EU policies “the union in general, and the single market in particular, would soon unravel”.

But Jacques Delors thinks differently.

The former European Commission president, who is credited as the architect of the modern EU and the euro, has broken ranks with other European leaders to offer Britain an exit from the Union.

“The British are solely concerned about their economic interests, nothing else. They could be offered a different form of partnership,” he told Handelsblatt, a German financial newspaper.

“If the British cannot support the trend towards more integration in Europe, we can nevertheless remain friends, but on a different basis. I could imagine a form such as a European economic area or a free-trade agreement.”

Richard North thinks the EU is bound to fail anyway.

It inevitably involves political unification but it can never attract the “dedication” of the people. It can never demand and nor will it ever get the unlimited sacrifice of its “citizens.”

Thus, the idea that the EU can replace the sovereign state is indeed a “master fallacy of political thought” and those who believe it has a stable future are deluded. The European Union must fail – because of its very nature. The sovereign state is the only political entity which can provide stability.

Well, the EU will never get any “dedication” out of a smoker like me. But then, for that matter, neither will a Britain which has made me an exile in my own country.

The next bit of news was about a comet due in late 2013, that promises to be fifteen times brighter than the Full Moon.

The comet, named Ison, is expected to be so “spectacularly bright” that it will be visible to the naked eye in daylight next year.

It is predicted to end a year of “celestial treats” for 2013, with other comets also coming within visible range of the Earth.

I wonder when the Ison Doom cult will start up? (It already has, actually.)

It might be fun to get hold of some orbital data for Ison, and plug it into my model of the solar system. Ison is going to pass so close to the Sun that it may disintegrate, and create a shotgun blast of icy boulders that will spray out across the Solar System, killing or maiming every living thing in its path on Christmas Day, 2013. I think that would make quite a good Ison Doom cult.

And finally, H/T Rose and Ben Palmer, from the latest antismoking campaign,  a ( fake) real Cancer Stick.

cancer-stick

The sheer absurdity of this image, with its implicit message that cigarettes themselves can develop cancer and grow tumours, would almost be humorous if it wasn’t so utterly sick and twisted and mendacious. Isn’t this image likely to make quite a few people realise, perhaps for the very first time, that they’re being lied to?

Chief Medical Officer Professor Dame (Silly) Sally Davies said smokers play Russian roulette with every cigarette.

“It’s the hidden dangers we’re getting at.”

So of course you show them something that’s a complete fake, don’t you?

Actually, I’d quite like to have a few cigarettes like that. It’d be great fun to light one up somewhere, and watch people scurry away. Perhaps you could make your own with salami and black pudding and glue.

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32 Responses to Real Cancer Sticks At Last

  1. Reinhold says:

    … this image … would almost be humorous if it wasn’t so utterly sick and twisted and mendacious

    It shows the perverseness of these insane in full bloom.

    • Rose says:

      Perverse and the probable trigger for a great many of those unintended consequences that so beset the the anti-tobacco campaigns as they progress.

      If you are frightened into believing that you will die, you quite possibly will.

      The nocebo effect: Wellcome Trust science writing prize essay

      “Can just telling a man he has cancer kill him? In 1992 the Southern Medical Journal reported the case of a man who in 1973 had been diagnosed with cancer and given just months to live. After his death, however, his autopsy showed that the tumour in his liver had not grown. His intern Clifton Meador didn’t believe he’d died of cancer: “I do not know the pathologic cause of his death,” he wrote. Could it be that, instead of the cancer, it was his expectation of death that killed him?

      This death could be an extreme example of the “nocebo effect” – the flip-side to the better-known placebo effect.”
      http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2011/nov/13/nocebo-pain-wellcome-trust-prize

      There’s quite a lot of it about it seems.

      The nocebo effect: How health warnings cause health troubles

      “In the past two decades, however, mounting evidence for the nocebo has begun to accumulate through comparisons of side effects in the placebo groups of clinical trials—side effects, in other words, that also show up in people getting no drugs at all. More recently, a handful of studies have investigated nocebos more directly, and have suggested that patients’ negative expectations may indeed increase their suffering”

      “Empirical studies focused directly on nocebos are rare, in part because of the double ethical hurdle of deceiving research subjects in a way that could cause suffering. A 2012 review turned up only about 30 studies on nocebos ever. But in these early studies, researchers have triggered asthma attacks using inhalers filled with a sham broncho-constrictor. Post-operative patients in a pain study who agreed to have their morphine drip interrupted for four hours felt twice as much pain if a doctor openly cut off the drip, compared to patients whose drip was stopped covertly.

      “As more and more studies come out, the evidence starts to get pretty persuasive that the nocebo effect is real,” says Frank Miller, a bioethicist at the National Institutes of Health.”
      http://www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/2012/09/08/the-nocebo-effect-how-health-warnings-cause-health-troubles/8JJ4TU8iX0VAXd3oHkddRL/story.html

      Which seems strangely familiar

      Sure enough –

      Voodoo death

      “In 1942, Walter Bradford Cannon, MD, now looked to as a forerunner in modern physiological psychology, published a work wherein he postulated the idea that fear could affect a person to the point that their physical condition would deteriorate in response to psychological distress.[2] Citing examples of extraordinary deaths (and their extraneous circumstances) in aboriginal societies, Cannon posited the idea that fear of supernatural consequences to broken societal taboos caused the deaths witnessed in the natives.

      What Cannon describes has since been termed “bone-pointing syndrome,” wherein an individual receives some sort of shock—often the breaking of some social/religious taboo—that he interprets as an ill omen for himself; his physical condition then deteriorates at a rapid rate, and he dies within a period as short as 24 hours after the initial shock.[2]

      Cannon discusses the example of a Maori woman who learned that the fruit she had eaten came from a tapu (tabooed) place; less than 24 hours later she was dead. Conversely, Cannon also shares the example of a young man who had fallen ill when the local witch doctor had pointed a bone at him, a societal taboo that meant a curse of death; however, when the perpetrator explained to the young man that the whole thing had been a mistake, and that no bone had been pointed at him at all, the young man’s health returned instantly.”
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voodoo_death

      So just theorising, how might people under this kind of pressure subconsciously shield themselves from these damaging nocebo effects?

      “The campaign comes in response to statistics that show more than a third of smokers still think the health risks associated with smoking are greatly exaggerated”
      http: //www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/dec/28/smokers-graphic-ad-campaign-tumour

    • Rose says:

      Awaiting moderation because I forgot to break a link :)
      Things are back to normal : )

      • 5734 says:

        I imagine this is why more and more people are coughing and claiming asthma attacks when within a 15 metre radius of people smoking. Funny how when everyone smoked, non smokers weren’t constantly gasping for air and clutching at their chests at the merest scent of smoke. The antis have told people they’re going to die from second hand smoke (and now third hand) so of course, they think they are. The “health professionals” bullying smoking and spreading lies about smoke should be done for incitement to hatred.

  2. smokervoter says:

    Nisakiman mentioned Senate Majority Whip Richard Durbin and his investments in companies that make anti-tobacco products yesterday and this comment properly belongs under that comment, but I want to get more eyeballs with a fresh thread so here it goes. This is important.

    Richard “Dick” Durbin of Illinois is bar none the most powerful and adamant antismoking legislator in America. His father died of lung cancer and he’s been taking it out on the multi-millions of surviving smokers ever since. He drafted the 1988 airline smoking ban that kicked the prohibition movement off in the first place. He wants to double the existing SCHIP tax.

    He’s up for re-election in 2014. Defeating him would be the crown jewel in our resistance, but it would require a Herculean effort on our part. In our favor will be that it’s a mid-term contest and turnout will be down. I predict that around 4 million will show up at the voting booths.

    There might be somewhere around 2,250,000 smokers in Illinois. The magic number to defeat him would be 2,100,000. Obviously not every smoker will turn out. We’ll be lucky if 1,270,000 show up. But if we could get two out of three of those votes (and why not?) that would amount to 835,000, which would go a long way towards derailing him. It’s longshot, but longshots do happen.

    Starting in June of 2014, we should mount a grassroots effort to spread the word to every smoker in Illinois. The tobacco companies, if they’ve got any guts left in them, should give each Illinois smoker that shows up with proof of voting a free pack of cigarettes.

    Ain’t no time like the present to get the ball rolling. Let’s demolish Dick Durbin. His scalp would be a major victory for smokers.

    • harleyrider1978 says:

      Itd be easier to just buy him off! Even Nazis have a price tag…………….

    • Frank Davis says:

      I’ll be up for that.

      I was quite proud to win 6 or 7 votes against California’s Prop 29.

      I’ll be more than glad to win 7 or 8 votes against this Durbin guy.

      Just tell me some more about him, and why he totally sucks.

      • smokervoter says:

        He’s a very bland and highly partisan Democratic guy who doesn’t evoke much contemplation one way or another. He shows up on the Sunday morning political talk shows pretty regularly. I’ll usually switch channels when he comes on because he’s so predictably left-wing. They always have him on when the discussion is on the environment. He’s very dismissive of non-believers in global warming and he’s quite the alarmist.

        He’s also very concerned with the higher educational welfare of the offspring of people who sneaked into the country while no doubt being in favor of making life on campus miserable for native born students who smoke.

        I first took notice of him while doing some research on the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) for an article I was writing while RINO-hunting for wayward Republicans who caved in on the bill. I started noticing his name was on every piece of antismoking legislation there was, along with another old-school Democrat by the name of Tom Harkin.

        On a more ad hominem level, his onscreen delivery is, shall we say, a little less than fully masculine. So much so that I once Yahooed “Durbin” & “Gay” just to see if I was the only one who got that impression. Now, with a default PC disclaimer here, that doesn’t preclude him from being a politician of sound character. I would cast him in the role of Casper Milquetoast rather than Dirty Harry. He always looks like he’s impaled on a corn cob.

        It turns out his father smoked two packs of Camel cigarettes a day and died of lung cancer. I haven’t found anything yet detailing how old his dad was when he passed. This explains his antagonism towards smokers. I have no sympathy for him whatsoever because, by extension he’s lashed out at me over his familial misfortune. What’s not to say it wasn’t a result of genetics either, as he lost a daughter to congenital heart failure as well.

        He wins by large margins so, like I said, it will be hard to take him down. That shouldn’t stop us though. Everyone was sure that Prop 29 was going to pass with a large margin of victory.

        He can be voted out by just 37% of Illinois smokers. That means that 63% (a vast majority) either stays home or votes for him. Surely we can muster that much support in our self-interest.

        If I’m not mistaken he’s GaryK’s senator. He knows a lot more about him I would gather.

    • Aye “Dick” sais it all really.

  3. jaxthefirst says:

    … give each Illinois smoker that shows up with proof of voting a free pack of cigarettes.”

    Now there’s an idea. Always assuming, of course, that giving away free cigarettes isn’t against some form of anti-advertising/promotion regulations (I think in the UK they covered that one to avoid cigarettes being “given” away as a free gift along with extremely expensive cigarette lighters). But, hey, if nothing else then, if legal, it would get – literally – right up the anti-smokers’ noses. The main hurdle, as SV says, being the question of whether or not the tobacco companies still have “any guts left in them,” which, to date, they haven’t shown much evidence of having.

    Or, of course, there’s always Harley’s solution – possibly quicker and more effective, but infinitely less satisfying!

    • XX Always assuming, of course, that giving away free cigarettes isn’t against some form of anti-advertising/promotion regulations XX

      In “plain packets” no problem, surely….. If so, then they have admited the “plain packet” idea is a barrel of shite.

    • smokervoter says:

      You know, I think you’re right about that Jax. They could instead charge a perfunctory penny a pack to get around that law. Also, two packs for the price of one offers are very common.

  4. junican says:

    As a philosopher, Frank, you will understand that the word ‘philosopher’ means ‘lover of knowledge’. But, ‘philosophy’, by definition, does not brook ‘guesses’. Theories are OK, provided that the theories have factual basis.
    Tobacco Control has replaced ‘facts’ with ‘suppositions’, based upon epidemiology. But epidemiology is not science – it is mathematics (statistics).
    Would it not be wonderful if a ‘philosopher’, who was well-regarded, denounced Tobacco Control as a fraudulent ‘philosophy’?

    • Frank Davis says:

      We don’t seem to have ‘philosophers’ these days. I can’t think of anyone who I’d call a ‘philosopher’. Like everything else, it’s a term that has become neutered and degraded. A year or two back I came across someone who called herself a ‘philosopher’ simply because she was a Professor of Philosophy in some university. But I don’t think that someone who studies or teaches philosophy is a ‘philosopher’.

  5. Walt says:

    On Durbin: I was pretty sure I remembered this but I had to look it up in an article I wrote in (ye Gods, 1994) and has to do with Durbin being behind the ban on smoking on all Amtrak trains (the only long distance trains in America including some of the busiest routes, like NYC to DC and Boston and down to Florida etc) and which only survives because of huge federal $ubsidies. I’ll quote directly from the article:

    ” According to ‘informed sources in Washington’ (in other words the guy wouldn’t let us use his name) the Amtrak smoking ban was forced on the railroad by US Congressman Richard Durbin (D, IL), a member of the House Appropriations Committee, who basically threatened them with losing their subsidy if they didn’t comply.”

    The informed source was a top Amtrak exec based in DC whose name I’ll gallantly continue to protect. .

    From the same article, I (re)learn that bans on NY State’s Metro North trains were “railroaded through by US Congressman Robert Mrazek (D, NY) who was later disgraced in the House banking scandal.” (Fine crew, these guys, huh?)

    And just for the hell of it, I’ll go on quoting.

    ” Metro North admitted that their bar cars were staffed with “‘undercover plainclothes police,’ Brucker [an Amtrak spokesman] said. ‘These guys are so beautifully disguised,’ he confessed, ‘that nobody’d ever guess. We’ve got guys, they look like they’re 18 years old, or they’re construction workers. That kind of thing.’….What happens, I ask him, to the red-handed smoker? What happens when he’s cornered by the fresh-faced Gestapo in the sweaty-looking shirt that says “Al’s Refrigeration”–that plant who’s been sitting there reading The Daily News, talking about the Giants, nursing a can of Bud and just waiting for his victim to torch up a Camel, like a mountain lion waiting for a lamb to go astray?…..,What happens is ‘they take him off the train at the next station where they serve him with a summons, and (Brucker seems amused) it isn’t the kind of summons you can just stick in the mail, you have to answer it in person.’ And the other gimmick is–since your crime was committed in wherever-the-train-was-passing when you torched up your butt–that’s the court you have to return to. “Like the Bronx,’ he says, laughing. ‘These people from New Haven really hate it when they have to go all the way to the Bronx.’

    And if they don’t?

    If they don’t, there’s a warrant for their arrest. “

  6. XX I could imagine a form such as a European economic area or a free-trade agreement.” XX

    Was that not what it SET OUT to be? And what the U.K in 1974 (?) was asked to vote on?

    • Rose says:

      Yes.

      “This page contains the text of the Government produce pamphlet advocating a vote to stay in the “European Community (Common Market)” in the 1975 British Referendum on continuing British membership.”

      “DEAR VOTER

      This pamphlet is being sent by the Government to every household in Britain. We hope that it will help you to decide how to cast your vote in the coming Referendum on the European Community (Common Market).Please read it. Please discuss it with your family and your friends.

      We have tried here to answer some of the important questions you may be asking, with natural anxiety, about the historic choice that now faces all of us.

      We explain why the Government, after long, hard negotiations, are recommending to the British people that we should remain a member of the European Community.

      We do not pretend, and never have pretended, that we got everything we wanted in these negotiations. But we did get big and significant improvements on the previous terms.

      We confidently believe that these better terms can give Britain a New Deal in Europe. A Deal that will help us, help the Commonwealth, and help our partners in Europe.

      That is why we are asking you to vote in favour of remaining in the Community.

      I ask you again to read and discuss this pamphlet.

      Above all, I ask you to use your vote.

      For it is your vote that will now decide. The Government will accept your verdict.

      [Signed:]

      Harold Wilson”

      “WILL PARLIAMENT
      LOSE ITS POWER? p10 & 11

      Another anxiety expressed about Britain’s membership of the Common Market is that Parliament could lose its supremacy, and we would have to obey laws passed by unelected ‘faceless bureaucrats’ sitting in their headquarters in Brussels”.

      Fact No. 3. The British Parliament in Westminster retains the final right to repeal the Act which took us into the Market on January 1, 1973.
      Thus our continued membership will depend on the continuing assent of Parliament.”
      http://www.harvard-digital.co.uk/euro/pamphlet.htm

  7. nisakiman says:

    Meanwhile in Ukraine there is considerable resistance to the smoking bans. One of the MPs there seems to have the measure of TCI:

    “It is almost impossible to obtain accurate statistics about the number of smoking and suffering from a disease people. Those structures, which lobby anti-tobacco laws, manipulate the statistics as they see fit. When they need money the number of smokers in Ukraine increases, but when they need to report about the progress, the number of smokers miraculously decreases. In fact, tobacco smoke is not the main enemy of health. For some reason we have stopped fighting alcoholism, pollution and GMO. Thus, I cannot say this law will bring positive changes,” the MP said. (My bold)

    http://en.for-ua.com/analytics/2012/12/28/135005.html

    They also have a vocal smokers’ rights activist called Yuri Paliychuk, who pointed out:

    ….the first to suffer from this law will be business, not smokers. “Already now restaurant owners complain about outflow of clients. In Poland, for example, two thousand enterprises went bankrupt after the first half a year of operation of such ban. Pretending to fight for waiter’s rights, these activists will deprive these very waiters of their jobs,”

    Problem is of course that TCI doesn’t care about the economic or health ramifications of the illiberal laws they are forcing on the population. Theirs is a purely ideological standpoint, and they are implacable in their single-minded drive to achieve their ends. Until it becomes apparent to the majority that the motivation is ideological, they will continue to persecute smokers with impunity. However, there is a glimmer of hope in that the continued ramping up of the emotive rhetoric is starting to stray into the realms of parody, and more and more people are waking up to the fact that the claims are moving beyond probability into fantasy.

    • harleyrider1978 says:

      Theyve been a created fantasy for 100 years and longer………….

    • A sad loss.

      We have a friend, a women, from Bulgaria.

      She was back there over Christmas to visit family.

      Apparantly, from her reports, they have taken the “U.K option” and it is virtually impossible to smoke ANYWHERE.

      I mean, come ON!!! Bulgaria!!?? What happened to their bollox all of a sudden??

  8. harleyrider1978 says:

    Islamist vigilantes step up threats in Egypt’s Sinai

    CAIRO (Reuters) – An Islamist group in Egypt’s Sinai Peninsula threatened to launch a crusade against drug use and cigarette smoking in the lawless desert region on Wednesday, prompting fears about the growing influence of radical groups in post-revolutionary Egypt.

    The country’s new constitution, adopted this week, states that the principles of sharia, Islamic law, are the main source of legislation.

    Rights groups say the document contains vague language, such as references to “national” morals, which they believe hardliners can take advantage of to impose religious restrictions on people.

    The Sinai vigilante group, which calls itself “Group for Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice,” issued its warning in a leaflet distributed around North Sinai, saying its punishment of those who did not comply would be “very harsh”.

    “This statement is the first warning, and there will be no second. It is directed at those trading in drugs, specifically cigarettes,” it said. “Those traders are destroying the families of Sinai, and flouting God’s laws.”

    Local security sources said little was known about the group and that it had never issued such statements in the past.

    A crackdown on trade in cigarettes or smoking in public places is likely to be perceived as a radical measure in a heavy smoking nation where puffing on a butt in public is socially acceptable and is practically part of the national pastime.

    Efforts to impose central authority in the desert region near the Israeli border have been slow since the fall of veteran autocrat Hosni Mubarak in the 2011 uprising, complicated by locals’ ingrained hostility to the government in Cairo.

    Islamist president Mohamed Mursi launched a concerted effort to reestablish control of Sinai following an August 5 attack in which 16 border guards were killed. But a November 3 gun attack in which three policemen died underlined the challenge still facing the authorities.
    http://news.yahoo.com/islamist-vigilantes-step-threats-egypts-sinai-165946792.html

    • harleyrider1978 says:

      From the comments

      NotThisUHaul

      They sound a lot like libs in the USA, deciding how much soda a person will be allowed to consume.

      Obama congratulates himself on having helped establish yet another jihadist, anti-American muslim government.

      jus2ignurnt
      Bloomberg style of governance.

      John •
      I can just see them now . Raging across the empty desert on their camels , robes flying . sabres flashing in the sun ,eager to do god’s bidding . Searching , always searching for god’s enemy , identifiable by a cigarette between their lips.

      It would appear to me the middle east is about to blow up into its civilwars..

  9. Frank Davis says:

    Slightly OT, but I agree with almost every word of this:

    A CHRISTMAS FAIRY TALE
    In a dramatic bid to reverse the Coalition’s poll ratings, the recently ennobled Chairman of Freedom2Choose has just been made Health Secretary. Immediately grasping the task in hand a whirlwind of laws have been struck from the statute book.
    1. The smoking ban has been forthwith scrapped. 2. Action on Smoking and Health will not only be deprived of further funding, but have been asked to return the millions of pounds wasted in the last 10 years. They will also have their assets stripped to pay compensation to the pubs they have closed as a result of the smoking ban. 3. All smoking cessation classes and drugs will be stopped. 4. Nick Hogan will receive a Royal Pardon for being jailed for allowing smoking in his pub. As well, Nick’s fellow publicans Tony Blows and Hamish Howitt will have their fines returned in addition to being paid substantial compensation. 5. Taxation on tobacco will be scrapped. 6. Minimum alcohol pricing is cancelled. 7. A Royal Commission will be initiated to look into the claims of the harm of passive smoking. 8. The UK will be resigning with immediate effect from the United Nations Framework Convention on Tobacco Control. 9. Only one small health warning on cigarette packets will remain. 10. Tobacco companies will be allowed to advertise cigarettes after the 10 o’clock watershed. 11. The EU will be told to mind its own business and snus will be legalised. 12. Also a new law will be put to Parliament: that everyone will have a great Christmas and a prosperous New Year.

    Thank you to all members and supporters for your great work during the year.
    Dave Atherton Chairman Freedom To Choose

    Except I wouldn’t even have (9) a single small health warning on cigarette packets, and (10) I’d let tobacco companies advertise anywhere and anytime they liked.

    • harleyrider1978 says:

      This space is intended for proof of tobacco caused diseases and until such time as proof is established this space will remain BLANK.

  10. raymond barfoot says:

    dear frank, merry christmas and a happy new year to you and all of the regulars herein. i have had a great christmas though i did not get everything i wanted i did get everything i needed.i am in a warm apartment, am well fed. and i have many smoking freinds.i wish the antismoking nazis would just once shut the hell up and leave us smokers alone permantly.i smoke and i enjoy it so get over yourselves ash, cruk and all other nazi nannies.i have no use for any of them.big drug compamies pick on smoking to make a qiick dollar,corrupt polychikens ban cigs to make a quick dollar,and as far as i can tell they are all corrupt.whoa feel better now i have vented some frustration.by the by i am glad to see miss rose is back as well. i know things will get better . i hope sooner rather than later.anyway happy holidays to all. you make my days more bearable just reading all of you l.i. jay, dave a. and junican amd of course you too frank. you all brighten my day. i am proud we few stand up to tci best wishes, ray barfoot

  11. harleyrider1978 says:

    Posted by Belinda Cunnison:
    (Note: Members of the Ignorant Masses will NOT Read this Whole Posting)
    Nicotine, the Zombie antiDote, by Dr Gabriela Segura
    This piece compares Smoking (as a presumed Health Hazard) with other environmental pollutants, including those found in Foods.
    Dr Segura refers to over 2,000 Nuclear Tests that have taken place since 1945.

    This, of course, is only the Tip of the IceBerg re Environmental Pollution, as it does Not record Heavy Industry Emissions etc; just the Nuclear Tests.
    The point being made is that the Emissions from Tobacco Smoke, and even the risks of Primary Smoking, are really WITHOUT Significance in the face of all the other Hazards that people face daily.

    In 2000, George Monbiot addressed Pollution and its Link with Cancer in his book Captive State.
    He describes how the Research agenda has been led away from investigating Links between Industry, Pollution and Morbidity:

    As BigBusiness inFiltrates the Research Agenda, ever wider zones of public enquiry are placed OFF LIMITS.

    In 1999, the govment published a White Paper on Public Health called:
    Saving Lives: Our Healthier Nation.
    The only Atmospheric Pollution named in the report is Radon.

    It also happens to be one of the only pollutants which does NOT result from the activities of large corporations: it is Naturally occurring.
    The report warns us about the dangers of Cancer resulting from ‘exposure to Radon Gas in certain homes or excessive sunlight’, but Nuclear Power Stations are NOT mentioned, and nor are any other chemicals, even though the Paper concedes that ‘Pollutants in the Atmosphere MAY cause Cancer if inhaled or swallowed’.
    The language in which this warning is given is interesting:
    It creates the impression that inGesting Pollution is something we can avoid.
    The paper informs us that the govment hosted ‘the largest ever Ministerial conference on environment and health in 1999.

    It Fails to tell us that the Links between Cancer and Industrial Pollution are dropped from the Agenda soon after the meeting began.

    Except in the case of Tobacco, Universities are Happy to accept Corporate Funding for ‘research’ purposes.
    In the case of Tobacco (but in NO other case) Universities are expected to REFUSE it on the grounds that it is ‘not disinterested’, but how can ANY corporate funding be disinterested?

    Dr Segura’s piece also claims:
    Outdoor air contains some of the Nastiest Cocktails of Pollutants.
    Most people tend to think of Air Pollution as having effects on the Lungs, but exPosure to Road Traffic may also trigger heart attacks.
    People are right:
    Air Pollution DOES Cause Lung Cancer.

    A govment study of more than 12,000 Miners has found that exPosure to Diesel Engine Exhaust Significantly increases the risk of Lung Cancer.
    For NoSmokers, the risk is 7 times Higher.

    The authors of the study say “we also observed an interAction between Smoking and 15-year lagged cumulative REC [marker for estimation of diesel exhaust exposure] such that the effect of each of these Exposures is attenuated in the presence of high levels of the other.”

    What does that mean?
    It means that research suggests that people who Smoke are LESS vulnerable to the Toxic Effects of inhalation of Pollution than are people who don’t Smoke.
    Says Dr Segura: ‘You have NO idea how many times we have found the PROTECTIVE properties of Tobacco Smoking.’

    Smoking should NOT be used as a ScapeGoat for Health Problems:
    Not only does it have Benefits, but the Hazardous ingredients in Tobacco are everywhere.

    Yes, Tobacco has its Pollutants, but they are found in the Water that we drink, the Air thatwe breathe, in Baby Food, you name it, in even HIGHER conCentrations.
    A conservative estimate is that over 80,000 chemicals have been introduced into Society since the 1800s, only a few hundred of which have been Tested for Safety; this doesn’t even take into consideration nanoTechnology and GMOs, which are already pervasive in the Food Chain.
    According to the U.S. EPA, about 2.5 Billion lbs of Toxins are released annually by industry.

    The authorities are worried about a Plant that produces the Learning and MemoryEnhancing, Natural Chemical Nicotine?

    It really is Laughable and makes the Ignorant Masses appear as Fools.
    You see what MainStream Education inDoctrination does to your Brain?

    You Breathe thousands of chemicals every time you inhale air, whether or not you are sitting next to a Smoker.

    As a LayPerson it always astonishes me that studies are done to determine that Tobacco makes people ill, without taking ANY trouble to exclude OTHER forms of Pollution beyond the crudest use of noSmokers as a comparison.

    Surely any Honest attempt to discover WHY people get Sick should take ALL Factors into consideration without preJudice, rather than by accepting Funding that is dedicated to SHOW that Tobacco is responsible for most modern ailments.

    • harleyrider1978 says:

      Not 1 Death or Sickness Etiologically Assigned to Tobacco. All the diseases attributed to smoking are also present in non smokers. It means, in other words, that they are multifactorial, that is, the result of the interaction of tens, hundreds, sometimes thousands of factors, either known or suspected contributors – of which smoking can be one!

      • Rose says:

        It means that research suggests that people who Smoke are LESS vulnerable to the Toxic Effects of inhalation of Pollution than are people who don’t Smoke.
        Says Dr Segura: ‘You have NO idea how many times we have found the PROTECTIVE properties of Tobacco Smoking

        I’m picking similar things up back to 2001, Harley, but they are from the low dose inhaled carbon monoxide, rather than tobacco smoking as such.

        Carbon monoxide inhalation decreased lung injury via anti-inflammatory and anti-apoptotic effects in brain death rats – 2010

        “Brain death (BD) induces acute lung injury and makes donor lungs unfit for transplantation. Carbon monoxide (CO) inhalation at 50–500 ppm exerts anti-inflammatory and anti-apoptosis effects in several lung injury models. We examined whether CO inhalation would show favorable effects on lung injury in BD rats. BD rats inhaled 250 ppm CO for two hours. Inhalation decreased the severity of lung injury, as checked by histological examination.”
        http://ebm.rsmjournals.com/content/235/10/1236.full

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