Grand Conjunction

My concern with smoking and smoking bans began one day in November 2004. I’d arrived at the River and bought a pint, and had sat down at my usual table to read that day’s Independent. On an inside page there was a small article saying that Sir Charles George, president of the BMA, and chairman of the BHF, was calling on the government to ban smoking in public places. He cited a new study which said that carbon nano-particles in smoke might cause an increased number of heart attacks.

‘Who the hell does he think he is?’ I wondered to myself, as I lit another roll-up. I’d never heard of any senior doctor calling for anything like this before, pulling in newspaper reporters and going public. Most doctors operated discreetly in the shadows. Not this one. I surveyed his smiling face in the photo, the jowls beneath his chin spilling over the collar of his shirt.

He wasn’t the last such swaggering doctor. Sir Liam Donaldson was soon to overshadow Sir Charles George, and there’ve been plenty of other doctors coming out of the woodwork of the Royal College of Physicians.

And I still don’t have an answer to the question ‘Who the hell do they think they are?’ or ‘How come they exert so much influence?’

But perhaps what happened was that there emerged a grand conjunction of a variety of antismoking organisations. In Britain there was Sir Richard Doll and Sir George Godber (not to mention my personal bete noire, the malignant Dr W, who inveighed against smoking like a hellfire preacher, and who regular attended BMA meetings). In the USA there was the AMA, a number of antismoking Surgeon Generals, the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, and a variety of (at the time) grassroot antismoking organisations. And then there was Gro Harlem Brundtland, who on becoming head of the WHO in the 1990s, shifted its emphasis towards ‘lifestyle medicine’ – tobacco, alcohol, and food. And the WHO was of course part of the UN. And then there was the emerging EU political aristocracy, of whom Brundtland was herself one, having been Prime Minister of Norway.

Assemble together this constellation of interested parties, all of whom meet each other regularly at conferences all around the world, and pump in huge amounts of taxpayer’s money, plus hundreds of millions of dollars from the Master Settlement Agreement in the USA, plus even more money from pharma companies peddling NRT, and a very powerful informal global coalition comes into existence. Its members have access to senior politicians all around the world, and to banks like the World Bank. And they control huge amounts of public and private money.

A few years beforehand, somebody like Sir Charles George was just another nobody doctor. Same for Sir Liam Donaldson. Nobody had ever heard of them. But now they were part of a very large global coalition of like-minded people. And when they asked for things to be done, they started to get done. They had clout like never before.

When Sir Liam Donaldson threatened to resign when the UK Labour government showed signs of not wanting a total smoking ban, it would have been an insignificant protest 10 or 20 years earlier. But now that Donaldson was a player in the emergent global antismoking consortium, he was a bit more than just Chief Medical Officer. He had friends in high places all around the world, who could be persuaded to look less favourably upon a loan here, or a trade agreement there. So Donaldson got his total smoking ban. And he got his big office too.

One important feature of this coalition of interested parties is that none of their members have been elected. Not in the AMA or RWJF or BMA or BHF or ASH or the WHO or the UN or the EU. None of them. These were people who were meeting up with each other in conferences, working out between themselves what they wanted done. Since they weren’t elected, they didn’t need to consult the public. They didn’t particularly want to anyway. They were the experts, after all. They’d done the research. Their job as doctors and researchers and experts was educate the public, and tell them what was good for them.

And now they were finding that, whereas in the past the politicians had seldom done what the doctors asked of them, suddenly the politicians had become more than willing to accommodate their requests. Smoking bans in all public places, without any loopholes for small bars or private clubs? No problem. Bans in parks and cars? Certainly. Concealed displays of tobacco, and plain packaging? Done. Floggings and nose-slittings for first offenders?

The politicians were finding themselves dealing with a very powerful, influential, and wealthy global coalition who could make life difficult for them in all sorts of ways if they didn’t go along with their demands. And in this new political reality, all the key decisions were agreed in private among the key players in the coalition. The smoking bans. The fines. The display bans. Etc, etc. This was the new post-democratic order. It was government by experts and by committees. The job of elected politicians was to implement the instructions that filtered down to them from the coalition.

So when the second most senior member of the the Con Lib Coalition government, Nick Clegg – himself a smoker – , says that there’s no more chance of the smoking ban being repealed than capital punishment being re-introduced, he’s actually telling us just what power these people exert. 

And the same is true elsewhere. It’s said that one of the conditions of the Greek bail-out was that they impose a strict smoking ban. The same is probably true of Spain, which may well be needing to be bailed out soon too. In the corridors of power in the EU, in some meeting of key players, some senior doctor insisted that the bail-out funds be conditional on rigorous smoking bans. The demand was probably made over lunch in some Brussels restaurant, just after the asparagus had been served.

The politicians know perfectly well that they’re screwing their own people. Smoking bans shatter communities and bankrupt pubs and cafes. That’s why they can’t look them in the eye and talk to them about the rain of undemocratic rules and regulations they keep imposing on them. That’s why Cameron and Clegg and all the rest of them won’t ever talk about it. Because they’re no longer serving their own people, but a confederation of powerful interest groups which can, at a flick of a switch, shut off funding, close off hard-won exemptions, and enforce previously unenforced regulations. They spend their days in Westminster trying to placate nameless eminences grises who have more direct and immediate power over them than an electorate which only gets to have its say every 5 years or so, and whose votes are soon to be counted in ways which will be designed to neutralise public opinion anyway.

If so, more and more people will wake up to learn that their governments are more interested in serving the interests of international power-brokers and bankers and pressure groups than in serving their interests. It will become the peoples against their governments, all across Europe. 

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36 Responses to Grand Conjunction

  1. timbone59 says:

    I was speaking to Gary George on Saturday night/Sunday morning. Place? The Carousel, a bar in Benidorm which Gary owns. Gary is a working stand up comedian, doing three shows a night then going to his own bar.
    I asked him what he was going to do on January 2nd. I was shocked when he said he didn’t know about it until someone had mentioned it earlier that night. Not only had he not heard anything about it, he had not received anything from the authorities about it.
    It is relevant to this blog that he had a mini rant about the EU in relation to smoking bans and Spain being bailed out financially.
    His answer to what he would do on January 2nd IF they tried to impose it. “I won’t change the calendar from January 1st”.

  2. timbone59 says:

    I was speaking to Gary George on Saturday night/Sunday morning. Place? The Carousel, a bar in Benidorm which Gary owns. Gary is a working stand up comedian, doing three shows a night then going to his own bar.
    I asked him what he was going to do on January 2nd. I was shocked when he said he didn’t know about it until someone had mentioned it earlier that night. Not only had he not heard anything about it, he had not received anything from the authorities about it.
    It is relevant to this blog that he had a mini rant about the EU in relation to smoking bans and Spain being bailed out financially.
    His answer to what he would do on January 2nd IF they tried to impose it. “I won’t change the calendar from January 1st”.

  3. timbone59 says:

    I was speaking to Gary George on Saturday night/Sunday morning. Place? The Carousel, a bar in Benidorm which Gary owns. Gary is a working stand up comedian, doing three shows a night then going to his own bar.
    I asked him what he was going to do on January 2nd. I was shocked when he said he didn’t know about it until someone had mentioned it earlier that night. Not only had he not heard anything about it, he had not received anything from the authorities about it.
    It is relevant to this blog that he had a mini rant about the EU in relation to smoking bans and Spain being bailed out financially.
    His answer to what he would do on January 2nd IF they tried to impose it. “I won’t change the calendar from January 1st”.

  4. Anonymous says:

    “a number of antismoking Surgeon Generals”
    Indeed, there has been a number of rabidly antismoking Surgeons-General, e.g., C. Everett Kook. However, it is the Office of the Surgeon General that has been committed to antismoking since the early-1970s, if not earlier. Incoming Surgeons-General simply toe the policy line.
    The Royal College of Physicians has also been committed to antismoking since at least the early-1970s.
    http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F5061FF6345C107B93C0A8178AD85F458785F9&scp=61&sq=anti-cigarette&st=p
    Magnetic

  5. Anonymous says:

    “a number of antismoking Surgeon Generals”
    Indeed, there has been a number of rabidly antismoking Surgeons-General, e.g., C. Everett Kook. However, it is the Office of the Surgeon General that has been committed to antismoking since the early-1970s, if not earlier. Incoming Surgeons-General simply toe the policy line.
    The Royal College of Physicians has also been committed to antismoking since at least the early-1970s.
    http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F5061FF6345C107B93C0A8178AD85F458785F9&scp=61&sq=anti-cigarette&st=p
    Magnetic

  6. Anonymous says:

    “a number of antismoking Surgeon Generals”
    Indeed, there has been a number of rabidly antismoking Surgeons-General, e.g., C. Everett Kook. However, it is the Office of the Surgeon General that has been committed to antismoking since the early-1970s, if not earlier. Incoming Surgeons-General simply toe the policy line.
    The Royal College of Physicians has also been committed to antismoking since at least the early-1970s.
    http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F5061FF6345C107B93C0A8178AD85F458785F9&scp=61&sq=anti-cigarette&st=p
    Magnetic

  7. junican says:

    Frank
    GRAND CONJUNCTION – a good phrase. In connection with Climate Change, there are the WWF, WHO and IPCC, and their connections with multiple universities world-wide. And all paid for by taxpayers in one way or another. Along with a compliant, short-term, amoral, aimless political class.
    The Climate Change ‘gang’ have been found out. The complicity is clear. And yet, both ‘scientists’ and politicians fall over themselves defend the indefensible and to continue the fraud.
    There seems to me to be a comparison with Galileo. With his primitive telescope, he discovered the moons of Jupiter and that they revolved around the planet Jupiter. By describing his observations, he showed that ‘not everything in the universe’ revolved around the Earth. This was theologically anathema. And it is for this reason that he was subjected to house arrest for the rest of his life.
    Why do these ‘scientists’ and politicians wish to continue the fraud? I find it hard to understand. Could it be that they simply cannot publically accept that they were wrong to accept the word of the climatologists? Is it that the construction of windmills has become so far advanced and committed to, that they cannot go into reverse? Why can they not see the need TO START AGAIN with the measurements of temperature and atmospheric pressure?
    And so we come to Tobacco Control. Do you know, Frank, that there is no actual organisation called ‘Tobacco Control’? It is amorphous. But again we see the involvement of the WHO along with the ‘Inter Gov bla bla for Tobacco Control’, and I have seen it said that smokers are contributing to Global Warming (enter WWF and IPCC). And, of course, multiple Universities – all of it at taxpayers’ expense.
    I wrote to Lansley in Sept about the junk science involved in the TV ad about ‘take 7 steps out’. The reply that I received from his representative avoided the point and spoke about the huge success of the ban. I have written again about the junk science involved in the display ban and the plain packaging idea. I do not expect any reasonable reply, but one has to keep trying.
    It has been said that the Irish Gov are intent upon doing away with ‘Tobacco Control’, although it seems that they actually intend to incorporate Tobacco Control into some other department. It is one of the weird things about The Administration that it seems that the only way to make changes is by this sort of clever trick. IE. In the process of moving Tobacco Control from one dept to another, it is possible to decimate the whole thing.
    I hope that the White Paper that Lansley says is imminent does just this, but we wait to see. If it does, then expect massive squeals from ASH and co. If not, then we must soldier on.

  8. junican says:

    Frank
    GRAND CONJUNCTION – a good phrase. In connection with Climate Change, there are the WWF, WHO and IPCC, and their connections with multiple universities world-wide. And all paid for by taxpayers in one way or another. Along with a compliant, short-term, amoral, aimless political class.
    The Climate Change ‘gang’ have been found out. The complicity is clear. And yet, both ‘scientists’ and politicians fall over themselves defend the indefensible and to continue the fraud.
    There seems to me to be a comparison with Galileo. With his primitive telescope, he discovered the moons of Jupiter and that they revolved around the planet Jupiter. By describing his observations, he showed that ‘not everything in the universe’ revolved around the Earth. This was theologically anathema. And it is for this reason that he was subjected to house arrest for the rest of his life.
    Why do these ‘scientists’ and politicians wish to continue the fraud? I find it hard to understand. Could it be that they simply cannot publically accept that they were wrong to accept the word of the climatologists? Is it that the construction of windmills has become so far advanced and committed to, that they cannot go into reverse? Why can they not see the need TO START AGAIN with the measurements of temperature and atmospheric pressure?
    And so we come to Tobacco Control. Do you know, Frank, that there is no actual organisation called ‘Tobacco Control’? It is amorphous. But again we see the involvement of the WHO along with the ‘Inter Gov bla bla for Tobacco Control’, and I have seen it said that smokers are contributing to Global Warming (enter WWF and IPCC). And, of course, multiple Universities – all of it at taxpayers’ expense.
    I wrote to Lansley in Sept about the junk science involved in the TV ad about ‘take 7 steps out’. The reply that I received from his representative avoided the point and spoke about the huge success of the ban. I have written again about the junk science involved in the display ban and the plain packaging idea. I do not expect any reasonable reply, but one has to keep trying.
    It has been said that the Irish Gov are intent upon doing away with ‘Tobacco Control’, although it seems that they actually intend to incorporate Tobacco Control into some other department. It is one of the weird things about The Administration that it seems that the only way to make changes is by this sort of clever trick. IE. In the process of moving Tobacco Control from one dept to another, it is possible to decimate the whole thing.
    I hope that the White Paper that Lansley says is imminent does just this, but we wait to see. If it does, then expect massive squeals from ASH and co. If not, then we must soldier on.

  9. junican says:

    Frank
    GRAND CONJUNCTION – a good phrase. In connection with Climate Change, there are the WWF, WHO and IPCC, and their connections with multiple universities world-wide. And all paid for by taxpayers in one way or another. Along with a compliant, short-term, amoral, aimless political class.
    The Climate Change ‘gang’ have been found out. The complicity is clear. And yet, both ‘scientists’ and politicians fall over themselves defend the indefensible and to continue the fraud.
    There seems to me to be a comparison with Galileo. With his primitive telescope, he discovered the moons of Jupiter and that they revolved around the planet Jupiter. By describing his observations, he showed that ‘not everything in the universe’ revolved around the Earth. This was theologically anathema. And it is for this reason that he was subjected to house arrest for the rest of his life.
    Why do these ‘scientists’ and politicians wish to continue the fraud? I find it hard to understand. Could it be that they simply cannot publically accept that they were wrong to accept the word of the climatologists? Is it that the construction of windmills has become so far advanced and committed to, that they cannot go into reverse? Why can they not see the need TO START AGAIN with the measurements of temperature and atmospheric pressure?
    And so we come to Tobacco Control. Do you know, Frank, that there is no actual organisation called ‘Tobacco Control’? It is amorphous. But again we see the involvement of the WHO along with the ‘Inter Gov bla bla for Tobacco Control’, and I have seen it said that smokers are contributing to Global Warming (enter WWF and IPCC). And, of course, multiple Universities – all of it at taxpayers’ expense.
    I wrote to Lansley in Sept about the junk science involved in the TV ad about ‘take 7 steps out’. The reply that I received from his representative avoided the point and spoke about the huge success of the ban. I have written again about the junk science involved in the display ban and the plain packaging idea. I do not expect any reasonable reply, but one has to keep trying.
    It has been said that the Irish Gov are intent upon doing away with ‘Tobacco Control’, although it seems that they actually intend to incorporate Tobacco Control into some other department. It is one of the weird things about The Administration that it seems that the only way to make changes is by this sort of clever trick. IE. In the process of moving Tobacco Control from one dept to another, it is possible to decimate the whole thing.
    I hope that the White Paper that Lansley says is imminent does just this, but we wait to see. If it does, then expect massive squeals from ASH and co. If not, then we must soldier on.

  10. Anonymous says:

    Frank, you are obviously unaware that passing a medical degree makes you godlike on any subject of your choosing and places you above ordinary mortals. Ask Anna Gilmore. Even if you can’t hack it as a medic, you can always resort to statistics or even economics and the idiots in the press will still treat you as an “expert”
    Anybody out there know what use Chief Medical Officers are and why we are forced to pay for them?

  11. Anonymous says:

    Frank, you are obviously unaware that passing a medical degree makes you godlike on any subject of your choosing and places you above ordinary mortals. Ask Anna Gilmore. Even if you can’t hack it as a medic, you can always resort to statistics or even economics and the idiots in the press will still treat you as an “expert”
    Anybody out there know what use Chief Medical Officers are and why we are forced to pay for them?

  12. Anonymous says:

    Frank, you are obviously unaware that passing a medical degree makes you godlike on any subject of your choosing and places you above ordinary mortals. Ask Anna Gilmore. Even if you can’t hack it as a medic, you can always resort to statistics or even economics and the idiots in the press will still treat you as an “expert”
    Anybody out there know what use Chief Medical Officers are and why we are forced to pay for them?

  13. Anonymous says:

    Notwithstanding that it’s still the case, as far as I’m aware, that one medic will not contradict another (professional ethics, you know). Hence, when one medic comes out with a pile of garbage, those that may know better, say diddly squat!.
    What price ‘peer review’ on that basis?

  14. Anonymous says:

    Notwithstanding that it’s still the case, as far as I’m aware, that one medic will not contradict another (professional ethics, you know). Hence, when one medic comes out with a pile of garbage, those that may know better, say diddly squat!.
    What price ‘peer review’ on that basis?

  15. Anonymous says:

    Notwithstanding that it’s still the case, as far as I’m aware, that one medic will not contradict another (professional ethics, you know). Hence, when one medic comes out with a pile of garbage, those that may know better, say diddly squat!.
    What price ‘peer review’ on that basis?

  16. Frank Davis says:

    Why do these ‘scientists’ and politicians wish to continue the fraud?
    Partly for the reasons you suggest. But I can think of a couple of other reasons.
    One is ideological. If they are green, environmentalist types, then they hate Western industrial civilisation and wish to return to a ‘natural’ green pre-industrial world. ‘Smoke-free’ doesn’t just apply to tobacco smoke, but to all smoke, including vehicle exhausts and factory chimneys. Hating smoke is the same as hating industry.
    But I suspect that there’s another ‘reason’ as well. And that is that these people believe that scientific truths are simply what everybody believes to be scientific truths, and that what people believe can be changed by propaganda and education. So they will produce ‘scientific studies’ showing whatever they want them to show. They’re not interested in genuine science, but only in manipulating public perception for political purposes. This is maybe what some people call ‘post-normal’ or ‘post-modern’ science. Climate ‘science’ and antismoking ‘science’ and in fact all lifestyle ‘science’ isn’t really science at all, but political ideology dressed as science.
    Frank

  17. Frank Davis says:

    Why do these ‘scientists’ and politicians wish to continue the fraud?
    Partly for the reasons you suggest. But I can think of a couple of other reasons.
    One is ideological. If they are green, environmentalist types, then they hate Western industrial civilisation and wish to return to a ‘natural’ green pre-industrial world. ‘Smoke-free’ doesn’t just apply to tobacco smoke, but to all smoke, including vehicle exhausts and factory chimneys. Hating smoke is the same as hating industry.
    But I suspect that there’s another ‘reason’ as well. And that is that these people believe that scientific truths are simply what everybody believes to be scientific truths, and that what people believe can be changed by propaganda and education. So they will produce ‘scientific studies’ showing whatever they want them to show. They’re not interested in genuine science, but only in manipulating public perception for political purposes. This is maybe what some people call ‘post-normal’ or ‘post-modern’ science. Climate ‘science’ and antismoking ‘science’ and in fact all lifestyle ‘science’ isn’t really science at all, but political ideology dressed as science.
    Frank

  18. Frank Davis says:

    Why do these ‘scientists’ and politicians wish to continue the fraud?
    Partly for the reasons you suggest. But I can think of a couple of other reasons.
    One is ideological. If they are green, environmentalist types, then they hate Western industrial civilisation and wish to return to a ‘natural’ green pre-industrial world. ‘Smoke-free’ doesn’t just apply to tobacco smoke, but to all smoke, including vehicle exhausts and factory chimneys. Hating smoke is the same as hating industry.
    But I suspect that there’s another ‘reason’ as well. And that is that these people believe that scientific truths are simply what everybody believes to be scientific truths, and that what people believe can be changed by propaganda and education. So they will produce ‘scientific studies’ showing whatever they want them to show. They’re not interested in genuine science, but only in manipulating public perception for political purposes. This is maybe what some people call ‘post-normal’ or ‘post-modern’ science. Climate ‘science’ and antismoking ‘science’ and in fact all lifestyle ‘science’ isn’t really science at all, but political ideology dressed as science.
    Frank

  19. Frank Davis says:

    That set me surfing a bit. Strange man.
    From wikipedia:
    Koop was a somewhat eccentric and flamboyant figure, well-known for his mustache-less beard and colorful bow ties. He wore the Surgeon General’s ceremonial military uniform (a naval admiral’s dress uniform, complete with medals) during much of his day-to-day work, reviving an old practice.
    Strongly religious (Presbyterian).

    Click to access qqbdcw.pdf


    AND WHEN I FINISHED THE USUAL CLUSTER OF PEOPLE CAME UP TO THE PODIUM, SOME JUST TO SAY HELLO, SOME TO SAY THEY LIKED WHAT I SAID, BUT ONE WOMAN STAYED TO THE END AND WHEN SHE GOT THERE, SHE SAID, “I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW ASHAMED I AM OF YOU. TO THINK THAT YOU WOULD COME INTO THIS ATHEISTIC STRONGHOLD AND HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO HUNDREDS OF MEN AND WOMEN AND NOT ONCE PREACH THE GOSPEL. AND I SAID, “MADAM, IF YOU ARE A CHRISTIAN, YOU AND I BOTH HAVE THE SAME VOCATION. WE ARE CALLED TO SERVE
    THE LIVING AND THE TRUE GOD AND FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS I PLAN TO SERVE MY GOD AS SURGEON GENERAL OF THE UNITED STATES.”

    WHEN WE WERE IN PORTLAND, OREGON, AT THE END OF MY FIRST LECTURE, A MIDDLE AGED GENTLEMAN CAME UP TO SEE ME AND SAID, “I CERTAINLY ENJOYED WHAT YOU HAD TO SAY, SIR. I AM A PHYSICIAN HERE IN PORTLAND AND A ROMAN CATHOLIC BUT I NEVER LET THE TWO GET MIXED UP.” AND I SAID, “HOW SAD.”
    Lots about children and education.
    1986 testimony on smoking:
    http://www.archive.org/details/tobacco_uew27a00
    Author of several books, including one on public health:
    http://ezinearticles.com/?Whatever-Happened-to-the-Human-Race!-Adversity-and-Tragedy-Breeds-Golden-Opportunity&id=5175406
    The Adversity and tragedy of the Human Race is described vividly in the book “Whatever Happened to the Human Race”. Whatever Happened to the Human Race is a book written by Francis A. Schaefer; and C. Everett Koop. As the title suggest it is a book of despair about the history of the human race. It analysis the widespread implications and frightening loss and devaluing of human life. The authors through their hands in the air in despair about the human race.
    In the dedication page of the book the author dedicate the book to: “To those who were robbed of life, the unborn, the weak, the sick, the old, during the dark ages of madness, selfishness, lust and greed for which the last decades of the twentieth century are remembered”. The book is filled with blood and gore. The first chapter is titled; The Abortion of the Human Race, the second chapter is titled The Slaughter of the Innocents.

    Enough.
    Frank

  20. Frank Davis says:

    That set me surfing a bit. Strange man.
    From wikipedia:
    Koop was a somewhat eccentric and flamboyant figure, well-known for his mustache-less beard and colorful bow ties. He wore the Surgeon General’s ceremonial military uniform (a naval admiral’s dress uniform, complete with medals) during much of his day-to-day work, reviving an old practice.
    Strongly religious (Presbyterian).

    Click to access qqbdcw.pdf


    AND WHEN I FINISHED THE USUAL CLUSTER OF PEOPLE CAME UP TO THE PODIUM, SOME JUST TO SAY HELLO, SOME TO SAY THEY LIKED WHAT I SAID, BUT ONE WOMAN STAYED TO THE END AND WHEN SHE GOT THERE, SHE SAID, “I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW ASHAMED I AM OF YOU. TO THINK THAT YOU WOULD COME INTO THIS ATHEISTIC STRONGHOLD AND HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO HUNDREDS OF MEN AND WOMEN AND NOT ONCE PREACH THE GOSPEL. AND I SAID, “MADAM, IF YOU ARE A CHRISTIAN, YOU AND I BOTH HAVE THE SAME VOCATION. WE ARE CALLED TO SERVE
    THE LIVING AND THE TRUE GOD AND FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS I PLAN TO SERVE MY GOD AS SURGEON GENERAL OF THE UNITED STATES.”

    WHEN WE WERE IN PORTLAND, OREGON, AT THE END OF MY FIRST LECTURE, A MIDDLE AGED GENTLEMAN CAME UP TO SEE ME AND SAID, “I CERTAINLY ENJOYED WHAT YOU HAD TO SAY, SIR. I AM A PHYSICIAN HERE IN PORTLAND AND A ROMAN CATHOLIC BUT I NEVER LET THE TWO GET MIXED UP.” AND I SAID, “HOW SAD.”
    Lots about children and education.
    1986 testimony on smoking:
    http://www.archive.org/details/tobacco_uew27a00
    Author of several books, including one on public health:
    http://ezinearticles.com/?Whatever-Happened-to-the-Human-Race!-Adversity-and-Tragedy-Breeds-Golden-Opportunity&id=5175406
    The Adversity and tragedy of the Human Race is described vividly in the book “Whatever Happened to the Human Race”. Whatever Happened to the Human Race is a book written by Francis A. Schaefer; and C. Everett Koop. As the title suggest it is a book of despair about the history of the human race. It analysis the widespread implications and frightening loss and devaluing of human life. The authors through their hands in the air in despair about the human race.
    In the dedication page of the book the author dedicate the book to: “To those who were robbed of life, the unborn, the weak, the sick, the old, during the dark ages of madness, selfishness, lust and greed for which the last decades of the twentieth century are remembered”. The book is filled with blood and gore. The first chapter is titled; The Abortion of the Human Race, the second chapter is titled The Slaughter of the Innocents.

    Enough.
    Frank

  21. Frank Davis says:

    That set me surfing a bit. Strange man.
    From wikipedia:
    Koop was a somewhat eccentric and flamboyant figure, well-known for his mustache-less beard and colorful bow ties. He wore the Surgeon General’s ceremonial military uniform (a naval admiral’s dress uniform, complete with medals) during much of his day-to-day work, reviving an old practice.
    Strongly religious (Presbyterian).

    Click to access qqbdcw.pdf


    AND WHEN I FINISHED THE USUAL CLUSTER OF PEOPLE CAME UP TO THE PODIUM, SOME JUST TO SAY HELLO, SOME TO SAY THEY LIKED WHAT I SAID, BUT ONE WOMAN STAYED TO THE END AND WHEN SHE GOT THERE, SHE SAID, “I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW ASHAMED I AM OF YOU. TO THINK THAT YOU WOULD COME INTO THIS ATHEISTIC STRONGHOLD AND HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO HUNDREDS OF MEN AND WOMEN AND NOT ONCE PREACH THE GOSPEL. AND I SAID, “MADAM, IF YOU ARE A CHRISTIAN, YOU AND I BOTH HAVE THE SAME VOCATION. WE ARE CALLED TO SERVE
    THE LIVING AND THE TRUE GOD AND FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS I PLAN TO SERVE MY GOD AS SURGEON GENERAL OF THE UNITED STATES.”

    WHEN WE WERE IN PORTLAND, OREGON, AT THE END OF MY FIRST LECTURE, A MIDDLE AGED GENTLEMAN CAME UP TO SEE ME AND SAID, “I CERTAINLY ENJOYED WHAT YOU HAD TO SAY, SIR. I AM A PHYSICIAN HERE IN PORTLAND AND A ROMAN CATHOLIC BUT I NEVER LET THE TWO GET MIXED UP.” AND I SAID, “HOW SAD.”
    Lots about children and education.
    1986 testimony on smoking:
    http://www.archive.org/details/tobacco_uew27a00
    Author of several books, including one on public health:
    http://ezinearticles.com/?Whatever-Happened-to-the-Human-Race!-Adversity-and-Tragedy-Breeds-Golden-Opportunity&id=5175406
    The Adversity and tragedy of the Human Race is described vividly in the book “Whatever Happened to the Human Race”. Whatever Happened to the Human Race is a book written by Francis A. Schaefer; and C. Everett Koop. As the title suggest it is a book of despair about the history of the human race. It analysis the widespread implications and frightening loss and devaluing of human life. The authors through their hands in the air in despair about the human race.
    In the dedication page of the book the author dedicate the book to: “To those who were robbed of life, the unborn, the weak, the sick, the old, during the dark ages of madness, selfishness, lust and greed for which the last decades of the twentieth century are remembered”. The book is filled with blood and gore. The first chapter is titled; The Abortion of the Human Race, the second chapter is titled The Slaughter of the Innocents.

    Enough.
    Frank

  22. Anonymous says:

    Correct Frank. That is why the BMJ is unworthy of use as toilet tissue and Ben Goldacre never criticises Bad Science when it emanates from The Royal College of Physicians. Even though th epeople behind the RCP advocacy are often not medics.
    Peer review in a journal like Tobacco Control works to actively support increasingly ridiculous publications because if an author’s peers are as unhinged and bigoted as he is, getting them to approve complete drivel provided that it is “on message” is not difficult. The fact that they are all making a living out tobacco control doesn’t exactly help objectivity either.

  23. Anonymous says:

    Correct Frank. That is why the BMJ is unworthy of use as toilet tissue and Ben Goldacre never criticises Bad Science when it emanates from The Royal College of Physicians. Even though th epeople behind the RCP advocacy are often not medics.
    Peer review in a journal like Tobacco Control works to actively support increasingly ridiculous publications because if an author’s peers are as unhinged and bigoted as he is, getting them to approve complete drivel provided that it is “on message” is not difficult. The fact that they are all making a living out tobacco control doesn’t exactly help objectivity either.

  24. Anonymous says:

    Correct Frank. That is why the BMJ is unworthy of use as toilet tissue and Ben Goldacre never criticises Bad Science when it emanates from The Royal College of Physicians. Even though th epeople behind the RCP advocacy are often not medics.
    Peer review in a journal like Tobacco Control works to actively support increasingly ridiculous publications because if an author’s peers are as unhinged and bigoted as he is, getting them to approve complete drivel provided that it is “on message” is not difficult. The fact that they are all making a living out tobacco control doesn’t exactly help objectivity either.

  25. Anonymous says:

    Harvard School of Public Health and Cyprus Researchers
    News at HSPH
    Features
    Greece Goes Smoke-Free in Restaurants, Bars with HSPH Support
    Harvard School of Public Health and Cyprus Researchers Provide Scientific Evidence to Support Greek Action
    http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/features/features/greece-smoke-free.html
    Frank look at the sequence of the headlines from GOOGLE string on this……
    Greece Goes Smoke-Free in Restaurants, Bars with HSPH Support …Sep 1, 2010 … Harvard School of Public Health and Cyprus Researchers Provide Scientific … They found the smoking ban improved air quality by 90% in restaurants, … and Public Health, and the Greek Health Ministry in Athens. …
    http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/features/…/greece-smoke-free.html – CachedPress Event: Greece to Announce a Smoke Free Country with the help …Greece and Cyprus have some of the highest smoking rates in the world. …
    http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/smokefreegreece/ – CachedShow more results from harvard.eduGreek restaurants defy smoking ban with ashtrays – SFGateOct 29, 2010 … “It will take time for people to accept the smoking ban,” George Lezos, … with the Harvard School of Public Health who helped the Greek …
    articles.sfgate.com/…/24543623_1_smoking-ban-new-smoking-law-tobacco- ban – CachedDefiant Greeks Prepare to Keep Smoking as Ban Compounds Economy …Oct 27, 2010 … “It will take time for people to accept the smoking ban,” George Lezos, … with the Harvard School of Public Health who helped the Greek …
    http://www.businessweek.com/…/defiant-greeks-prepare-to-keep-smoking-as-ban- compounds-economy.html – CachedGreece – may lighten smoking ban in bars and – Snus News & Other …Nov 22, 2010 … This time Greece has the help of Harvard School of Public Health. … Greek betting firm – July 1st smoking ban has resulted in a further …
    snus-news.blogspot.com/…/greece-may-lighten-smoking-ban-in-bars.html – Cached

  26. Anonymous says:

    Harvard School of Public Health and Cyprus Researchers
    News at HSPH
    Features
    Greece Goes Smoke-Free in Restaurants, Bars with HSPH Support
    Harvard School of Public Health and Cyprus Researchers Provide Scientific Evidence to Support Greek Action
    http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/features/features/greece-smoke-free.html
    Frank look at the sequence of the headlines from GOOGLE string on this……
    Greece Goes Smoke-Free in Restaurants, Bars with HSPH Support …Sep 1, 2010 … Harvard School of Public Health and Cyprus Researchers Provide Scientific … They found the smoking ban improved air quality by 90% in restaurants, … and Public Health, and the Greek Health Ministry in Athens. …
    http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/features/…/greece-smoke-free.html – CachedPress Event: Greece to Announce a Smoke Free Country with the help …Greece and Cyprus have some of the highest smoking rates in the world. …
    http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/smokefreegreece/ – CachedShow more results from harvard.eduGreek restaurants defy smoking ban with ashtrays – SFGateOct 29, 2010 … “It will take time for people to accept the smoking ban,” George Lezos, … with the Harvard School of Public Health who helped the Greek …
    articles.sfgate.com/…/24543623_1_smoking-ban-new-smoking-law-tobacco- ban – CachedDefiant Greeks Prepare to Keep Smoking as Ban Compounds Economy …Oct 27, 2010 … “It will take time for people to accept the smoking ban,” George Lezos, … with the Harvard School of Public Health who helped the Greek …
    http://www.businessweek.com/…/defiant-greeks-prepare-to-keep-smoking-as-ban- compounds-economy.html – CachedGreece – may lighten smoking ban in bars and – Snus News & Other …Nov 22, 2010 … This time Greece has the help of Harvard School of Public Health. … Greek betting firm – July 1st smoking ban has resulted in a further …
    snus-news.blogspot.com/…/greece-may-lighten-smoking-ban-in-bars.html – Cached

  27. Anonymous says:

    Harvard School of Public Health and Cyprus Researchers
    News at HSPH
    Features
    Greece Goes Smoke-Free in Restaurants, Bars with HSPH Support
    Harvard School of Public Health and Cyprus Researchers Provide Scientific Evidence to Support Greek Action
    http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/features/features/greece-smoke-free.html
    Frank look at the sequence of the headlines from GOOGLE string on this……
    Greece Goes Smoke-Free in Restaurants, Bars with HSPH Support …Sep 1, 2010 … Harvard School of Public Health and Cyprus Researchers Provide Scientific … They found the smoking ban improved air quality by 90% in restaurants, … and Public Health, and the Greek Health Ministry in Athens. …
    http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/features/…/greece-smoke-free.html – CachedPress Event: Greece to Announce a Smoke Free Country with the help …Greece and Cyprus have some of the highest smoking rates in the world. …
    http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/smokefreegreece/ – CachedShow more results from harvard.eduGreek restaurants defy smoking ban with ashtrays – SFGateOct 29, 2010 … “It will take time for people to accept the smoking ban,” George Lezos, … with the Harvard School of Public Health who helped the Greek …
    articles.sfgate.com/…/24543623_1_smoking-ban-new-smoking-law-tobacco- ban – CachedDefiant Greeks Prepare to Keep Smoking as Ban Compounds Economy …Oct 27, 2010 … “It will take time for people to accept the smoking ban,” George Lezos, … with the Harvard School of Public Health who helped the Greek …
    http://www.businessweek.com/…/defiant-greeks-prepare-to-keep-smoking-as-ban- compounds-economy.html – CachedGreece – may lighten smoking ban in bars and – Snus News & Other …Nov 22, 2010 … This time Greece has the help of Harvard School of Public Health. … Greek betting firm – July 1st smoking ban has resulted in a further …
    snus-news.blogspot.com/…/greece-may-lighten-smoking-ban-in-bars.html – Cached

  28. Anonymous says:

    world bank
    Frank your dead on right,the WHO forced compliance to sign onto the tobacco control treaty by waving the threat of no world bank loans if yo dont…….I have a feeling the world bank is going to go BANKRUPT……trying to fulfil the endless bailouts occurring and that nations will resort back to their own national currencies as a result and the anti-tobacco treaty goes up in smoke!

  29. Anonymous says:

    world bank
    Frank your dead on right,the WHO forced compliance to sign onto the tobacco control treaty by waving the threat of no world bank loans if yo dont…….I have a feeling the world bank is going to go BANKRUPT……trying to fulfil the endless bailouts occurring and that nations will resort back to their own national currencies as a result and the anti-tobacco treaty goes up in smoke!

  30. Anonymous says:

    world bank
    Frank your dead on right,the WHO forced compliance to sign onto the tobacco control treaty by waving the threat of no world bank loans if yo dont…….I have a feeling the world bank is going to go BANKRUPT……trying to fulfil the endless bailouts occurring and that nations will resort back to their own national currencies as a result and the anti-tobacco treaty goes up in smoke!

  31. Anonymous says:

    And of course, there’s always the small matter of all that lovely funding …….

  32. Anonymous says:

    And of course, there’s always the small matter of all that lovely funding …….

  33. Anonymous says:

    And of course, there’s always the small matter of all that lovely funding …….

  34. Anonymous says:

    Back Room Deals
    You’re right, too, that They inevitably get what They want, one way or another.
    I testified to the US Congress against the first international smoking ban on planes. Surprisingly, the congressmen at the hearing– no friends of smokers and some, active enemies– nonetheless agreed that this ban couldn’t be done, that it was, among other things, restraint of trade, extra-Constitutional, and that attempting to regulate foreign airlines (by denying them landing permits, as proposed) exceeded the powers of the American government. I still smelled a rat. And soon, sure enough, They got what They wanted through high-level “agreements” with political players of the other countries. It was pure blackmail, involving, I think, trade. Just before France “agreed” to the ban, Air France had installed separately ventilated smoking areas on all of its planes at, I’d imagine, no little expense but the fearful consequences of France not-“agreeing” forced the airline to scrap its significant investment and double-cross their customers. IOW, the network of back room pols sold out their own airline as well as their flyers.
    On the tangent. As early as the early ’60’s, before the invention of secondhand smoke, an official report of your Royal College was toying with Other Means to nudge us to quit smoking.
    “Restrictions on smoking in public,” said the report, “might ultimately contribute much to the discontinuation of smoking by altering the social acceptance of the habit….A gradually expanding network of places where smoking is forbidden might serve to remind us, hour by hour, day by day, that smoking is not… accceptable.” And bans in public places might “help to bring smoking into social disfavor in private places as well.”
    Source: “Consumer Union Report on Smoking and the Public Interest,” Simon & Schuster, 1963.
    -Walt

  35. Anonymous says:

    Back Room Deals
    You’re right, too, that They inevitably get what They want, one way or another.
    I testified to the US Congress against the first international smoking ban on planes. Surprisingly, the congressmen at the hearing– no friends of smokers and some, active enemies– nonetheless agreed that this ban couldn’t be done, that it was, among other things, restraint of trade, extra-Constitutional, and that attempting to regulate foreign airlines (by denying them landing permits, as proposed) exceeded the powers of the American government. I still smelled a rat. And soon, sure enough, They got what They wanted through high-level “agreements” with political players of the other countries. It was pure blackmail, involving, I think, trade. Just before France “agreed” to the ban, Air France had installed separately ventilated smoking areas on all of its planes at, I’d imagine, no little expense but the fearful consequences of France not-“agreeing” forced the airline to scrap its significant investment and double-cross their customers. IOW, the network of back room pols sold out their own airline as well as their flyers.
    On the tangent. As early as the early ’60’s, before the invention of secondhand smoke, an official report of your Royal College was toying with Other Means to nudge us to quit smoking.
    “Restrictions on smoking in public,” said the report, “might ultimately contribute much to the discontinuation of smoking by altering the social acceptance of the habit….A gradually expanding network of places where smoking is forbidden might serve to remind us, hour by hour, day by day, that smoking is not… accceptable.” And bans in public places might “help to bring smoking into social disfavor in private places as well.”
    Source: “Consumer Union Report on Smoking and the Public Interest,” Simon & Schuster, 1963.
    -Walt

  36. Anonymous says:

    Back Room Deals
    You’re right, too, that They inevitably get what They want, one way or another.
    I testified to the US Congress against the first international smoking ban on planes. Surprisingly, the congressmen at the hearing– no friends of smokers and some, active enemies– nonetheless agreed that this ban couldn’t be done, that it was, among other things, restraint of trade, extra-Constitutional, and that attempting to regulate foreign airlines (by denying them landing permits, as proposed) exceeded the powers of the American government. I still smelled a rat. And soon, sure enough, They got what They wanted through high-level “agreements” with political players of the other countries. It was pure blackmail, involving, I think, trade. Just before France “agreed” to the ban, Air France had installed separately ventilated smoking areas on all of its planes at, I’d imagine, no little expense but the fearful consequences of France not-“agreeing” forced the airline to scrap its significant investment and double-cross their customers. IOW, the network of back room pols sold out their own airline as well as their flyers.
    On the tangent. As early as the early ’60’s, before the invention of secondhand smoke, an official report of your Royal College was toying with Other Means to nudge us to quit smoking.
    “Restrictions on smoking in public,” said the report, “might ultimately contribute much to the discontinuation of smoking by altering the social acceptance of the habit….A gradually expanding network of places where smoking is forbidden might serve to remind us, hour by hour, day by day, that smoking is not… accceptable.” And bans in public places might “help to bring smoking into social disfavor in private places as well.”
    Source: “Consumer Union Report on Smoking and the Public Interest,” Simon & Schuster, 1963.
    -Walt

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