I got interested in a remark attributed to Jimmy Carter:
“America has no functioning democracy,” Carter said at a meeting of The Atlantic Bridge in Atlanta, Georgia on Tuesday.
I was interested because I was only describing last night one reason why the EU has no functioning democracy either (although for rather different reasons). And also I thought it was a pretty damning thing for a former US President to say.
Now, it happens that I once used to be a regular reader of the Daily Kos and a whole bunch of other US left wing blogs as well. It was something that all came to an end about 6 years ago when I posted a comment on Kos calling Anthropogenic Global Warming into question, and found myself in effect being frog-marched into a back room and frisked and questioned. You did not question global warming on Kos. No. The debate was over. I didn’t like the idea of any debate about anything ever being over. And I never went back. And in fact I lost interest in all the US leftwing blogs.
So it was interesting to read a few of the 400+ comments on the Carter story. A lot of folks there seemed pretty thoroughly disillusioned. One commenter slated both Obama and Hillary Clinton all in one shot.
Our president and Cretinous Congress Critters are not facing the fact that the US has NO leverage with anyone anywhere except brute force, thanks to stupid stunts like spying on everyone, plus Obama never did close Gitmo (most likely torture is still going on, just more covertly than under Dumbya), he’s still authorizing drone bombings in various countries, and the US is not only continuing to dictate policies in some Mideast countries but interfering in whatever military tensions there are in Africa. At the Behghazi hearings Hillary said she favored military intervention in Africa “to protect American interests” [i.e., oil wells owned by US oil companies]. Hillary is a war hawk of the worst sort, IMHO.
Another comment about Congress:
I think we’ve got a pretty good sense that we’ve lost control of them. They are not responsive. They are not doing what they believe is best for the people who elected them. They are doing what is best for themselves. They’ve been bought. And the guy in the White House is doing nothing but looking out for number one as well. He’s not taking any risks. He goes along to get along. He wants the library, the book deal and the speaking engagements.
If a past President publicly states… that we no longer have a functioning democracy, it should scream to the public to wake up and do something about it. What more do people need? What could be more convincing?
The odd thing about all this, it seemed to me, was that pretty much the exact same sentiments are expressed by the US libertarian-right. The only difference lies in who they think is to blame for the sorry state of affairs. And on Kos the commenters were pretty united in blaming 1) money, 2) corporations (i.e. Exxon), 3) the authoritarian US right wing. But on right wing blogs the blame is usually laid at the feet of 1) the government, 2) the politically correct US left wing. Apart from that, they were pretty much agreed about everything.
Which left me thinking that maybe US politics wasn’t really quite as polarised as it usually seems to be, and that if someone would point out how much they actually all agree about, rather than what they disagree about it, Americans might unite to do something about it.
Anyway, I wondered if the Kos AGW doctrine was still in effect. It was.
The science connecting man-made carbon pollution to climate disruption is much older and just as well established as the science connecting cigarettes to lung cancer. If a politician denied the link between cigarettes and cancer, we’d call them a science-denying shill who’d say anything for his friends at Big Tobacco.
Goaded by that remark, I wondered if I could still log in and post comments. I could, and so I did.
“The science connecting man-made carbon pollution to climate disruption is much older and just as well established as the science connecting cigarettes to lung cancer.”
Well, since the (Nazi) science connecting cigarettes to lung cancer never was “well established” in the first place, that sounds like a pretty good reason to doubt climate “science”
Americans have been quitting smoking for decades, but the lung cancer toll just goes up and up, and more and more never-smokers are contracting it too.
Some rethinking of dogma is needed.
by idlex on Mon Aug 19, 2013 at 04:50:19 PM PDT
I wonder if they’re going to put me up against a wall and frisk me and interrogate me again?
Related, a (democrat) congresswoman’s damning voicemail: