Doing Their Own Thing

I noticed a comment in Bishop Hill about the response by economist William Nordhaus to 16 scientists downplaying global warming in the Wall Street Journal. It asked:

“Why do the loony left always have to mention tobacco?”

And Nordhaus had indeed been writing about tobacco.

The attacks on the science of global warming are reminiscent of the well-documented resistance by cigarette companies to scientific findings on the dangers of smoking. Beginning in 1953, the largest tobacco companies launched a public relations campaign to convince the public and the government that there was no sound scientific basis for the claim that cigarette smoking was dangerous. The most devious part of the campaign was the underwriting of researchers who would support the industry’s claim. The approach was aptly described by one tobacco company executive: “Doubt is our product since it is the best means of competing with the ‘body of fact’ that exists in the mind of the general public. It is also the means of establishing a controversy.”

Perhaps the tobacco companies launched their campaign because there wasn’t in fact a sound scientific foundation for the claim that cigarette smoking was dangerous. And 60 years later, there still isn’t a sound scientific foundation for the claim.

After all, in 1953 (disregarding all the Nazi stuff), the only UK study was the the 1950 Doll and Hill British Hospitals Study, which showed that in a population, 98% of whom were smokers, 99% of lung cancer patients were smokers, which is about what was to be expected if smoking didn’t cause lung cancer.

But no, it seems that the defence mounted by the the tobacco companies was “devious”. And so also is global warming “denialism” – the very name of which suggests not just deviancy, but complicity in mass murder.

But I think that, behind this regular invocation of tobacco, there is a genuine puzzlement. After all, despite the lack of genuine scientific evidence, most people nevertheless believe that smoking really is dangerous. So why won’t people accept the new claim by climate scientists that carbon dioxide causes global warming? Why accept one piece of science, but not the other?

The global warming alarmist explanation is that a campaign of denial is being mounted by oil companies much like the one mounted by tobacco companies. But there seems to be little evidence for this.

The real reason, I suspect, for the far greater scepticism about global warming is that, with the internet, many people now have access to far more information than they had 60 years ago. Back then, it would have been with considerable difficulty that people would have obtained the original research, and read the criticisms made of it. They would have had to have subscriptions to medical journals, or access to those journals in convenient libraries. And most people would have had neither. Instead they would have had to rely entirely on what we now call the Mainstream Media, or MSM, and the judgement of newspaper editors and journalists. And they would have had to trust the judgement of these people. And trust the judgement of doctors like Richard Doll.

But now people are in a much better position to form their own opinions, and draw their own conclusions, without having to rely on experts and pundits and the like. They can do their own thinking. They are not so easily told what they should think. The Climate Wars are not something that takes place on the pages of august journals, but in the public arena of the internet, sometimes unfolding almost hour by hour, and even minute by minute.

And my own view is that, if Doll and Hill’s London Hospitals study had not been published in 1950, but instead in 2010, it would have got the same treatment that climate science is now getting. It would have been widely publicly ridiculed. After all, much of climate science is very good science. It’s pure physics, based upon accurate measurement. Tobacco science is nowhere near as good science as modern climate science. And if climate science can be torn up and thrown away in 2010, Doll and Hill wouldn’t have stood a chance.

Most people believe that tobacco and smoking is dangerous because tobacco research has never been subjected to the kind of criticism that climate research is now getting. It’s been taken on trust. And on trust of doctors like Richard Doll, George Godber, and a slew of US Surgeon Generals.

Sir Paul Nurse, the President of the Royal Society, gave a Dimbleby lecture last night on BBC, in the middle of which he asked, “What is special about science that means we should trust it?” He then proceeded to not answer his own question. He didn’t explain why science and scientists should be trusted. But he did say:

It is impossible to achieve complete certainty on many complex scientific problems, yet sometimes we still need to take action. The sensible course is to turn to the expert scientists for their consensus view.

In effect, he was saying that experts should be trusted. And in particular he was saying, in effect, that the “majority of expert climate scientists” should be trusted.

But I think that this sort of trust and faith is trickling away, and it’s trickling away precisely because people now have much of the information (though by no means all of it) needed to make up their own minds. And episodes like Climategate (and now Fakegate) do not encourage people to place their trust in “expert climate scientists”. And should people ever get round to re-examining tobacco research in any large numbers, I very much doubt that they will continue to place much trust in doctors like Richard Doll, or George Godber, or the US Surgeon General.

I think we have arrived at a new era of distrust, and one in which more or less everything any expert says about anything will no longer be taken on trust.

And an excellent example (for me at least) of this cropped up in Nurse’s speech, when he described the origin of the work that got him his Nobel prize.

I was searching for genes needed for cell division, by looking for yeast mutants which could not divide. Such mutant cells get bigger and can be easily spotted under the microscope. I had been searching for these large sized cells for months when I spotted something quite different, a clump of cells doing the opposite, dividing at a small size.

Now, it so happens that this is something that I’ve been thinking about too. I’ve spent weeks wondering why cells divide. And why some divide faster than others. And the way I think about cell division is that it’s like water dripping from a tap, drop by drop. Why doesn’t the water extend downwards in a long thin thread of water? (Occasionally it does.) Why does it instead almost always descend drop by slow drop? There are, to the best of my knowledge, no genes whatsoever controlling the formation of drips under leaking taps. What’s happening is a purely physical and mechanical process, resulting from the forces at work on the growing drip. And I suspect that the same sort of thing is happening with cells. In fact, I find it very hard to imagine how anything else can possibly be happening. And, in this manner, I’m doing my own thinking about this very interesting subject. And, even though Sir Paul Nurse has a Nobel Prize, in this matter I prefer my own judgement to his. I’m not going to trust the expert! I’ll do my own thinking, thank you very much.

And I can do my own thinking because I have the time, and I have access to the internet, and I have a computer that I can programme, and a number of other skills. And I suspect that there will be (perhaps already are) more and more people like me, thinking through things for themselves (and probably getting it all wrong), and not simply trusting what experts tell them – because all those things are now available to more and more people, just like electric guitars became available in the 1950s, and allowed all sorts of people to make a lot of new and surprising new music. Science isn’t much different from music. It’s really just people watching and listening and doing their own thing with drops of water.

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8 Responses to Doing Their Own Thing

  1. Rose says:

    Talking of doing your own research.

    Anti-smoking campaigns turn those who light up ‘into lepers’ warns Department of Health adviser
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2107419/Anti-smoking-campaigns-turn-light-lepers-warns-Department-Health-adviser.html

    Journal of Social Policy
    Smoking, Stigma and Social Class
    HILARY GRAHAM

    http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayFulltext?type=6&fid=8448124&jid=JSP&volumeId=41&issueId=&aid=8448123&fulltextType=RA&fileId=S004727941100033X#top.

    That’s going to take some wading through.

    • junican says:

      Before that report appeared, it was noticeable that Arnott and others were already taking every opportunity to say that they are not stigmatising smokers. Clearly, they already new about the report and, in fact, almost certainly organised it. It looks as if they are trying to distance themselves from the nastiness which they themselves created. Don’t let them!

  2. Oh boy!

    PROPOSAL WOULD BAN SMOKING IN CONDOS, RENTALS

    Smoking in apartments and condos in the city of San Diego could be banned if a proposed ordinance becomes official.

    The proposal, which was recently reviewed in a City Council committee, would give nonsmoking tenants the power to make their living environments smoke-free. Right now, landlords have the choice to designate their rental properties smoke-free under a state law that was enacted Jan. 1.

    Under the new idea, renters bothered by a smoking neighbor would need to submit a written complaint with proof to their landlords. The landlord must take reasonable steps to stop the smokers with up to three verbal warnings and, if needed, a written warning. The last resort could be eviction.

    Local community organizer Manuel Andrade, with the nonprofit Social Advocates for Youth, leads the task force that wrote the suggested ordinance. The proposal, he said, is intended to help renters who are affected regularly by smoke fumes through windows and air vents, and around common areas.

    “I hear stories from people who say: ‘I don’t have a regular life. I take a shower, I dry myself with my towel, and it stinks like cigarettes,’ ” Andrade said.

    Steve Kellman, founder of the Tenants Legal Center in San Diego and a landlord himself, called the smoke-free idea “noble” but possibly problematic.

    “The landlord’s view is that it’s a bad ordinance and not needed because there’s already a state law in place that gives landlords personal freedom,” said Kellman, who has voluntarily adopted smoke-free policies at his properties.

    The proposal also could be an added burden to landlords in time and effort spent enforcing it, Kellman said.

    The proposed ordinance was heard in committee last month and has been referred to the City Attorney’s Office for review. An answer on the draft language is expected within roughly the next three months

    http://web.utsandiego.com/news/2012/mar/01/tp-proposal-would-ban-smoking-in-condos-rentals/

  3. smokervoter says:

    This chaps my hide in so many ways. I love San Diego. It is the anti-LA, it is the anti-San Francisco. It votes Republican. It’s one of those strange places where you’ll meet someone who looks like a healthfreak hippie and they’ll light up a smoke and shatter your forethoughts When Rich White was touring there I wanted to email him some great bars to visit where it seems like 80% of the clientele smoke.

    And how about if your neighbor loves to eat malodorous brussels sprouts twice a day? Or garlic. Or barbeques steaks on a regular basis?

    And where in the hell is the American Civil Liberties Union !!!

    And this Latino guy Manuel Andrade. San Diego is right across the border from Mexico. Mexicans are natural born libertarians. Their housing projects are spread out horizontally rather than stacked up vertically because they each want their own living space.

    There is a nasty coalition I’m noticing in California nowadays. Rich, white, leftwing liberals and Americanized do-gooder Hispanics and they’re combining forces to comprise our 60%-40%, god awful Democrat-nanny state.

    • junican says:

      Confusion arises between the decision of the owner of a place and the need for laws. The Holy Zealots seem to have come up with the wheeze that because some apartment owners want to ban smoking, then there should be a law which forces all apartment owners to do likewise. Clearly, there is no logic to that idea. If apartment owners are using their power to ban smoking, then there is no need for a law. In fact, such a law would be anti-freedom in that it would infringe the rights of an owner to permit smoking if he wishes to.

      Eventually, the owners who arbitrarily ban smoking would find themselves over a barrel since the next thing on the agenda would be people complaining about ‘alcohol fumes’ drifting from one apartment to another. How can the owners then not ban alcohol? The precedent has been set.

      Eventually, supply and demand would sort the situation out. When owners find that nobody want to rent their apartments because of their smokefree rules, they would immediately change their minds.

  4. Frank, the science was indeed challenged and found wanting in 2005 during the ITL vs McTear court case in Scottish high court. It is online and is a lengthy document. Just reading the cross examination of ASH’s so called experts shows why the judge threw the case out.
    MacLochlainn

  5. smokervoter says:

    True. It wouldn’t be long before smoking-friendly apartment units started popping up around town. Nice stable income stream for the enterprising landlord, the perfect niche business model. This is what it’s coming down to, two separate societies, smoking and non-smoking.

    The funny thing is, I’ll bet this Manuel Adrade character is dead set against segregation and the institutionalised ghettoization of his raza.

    Before the civil rights movement there were separate hotels (living spaces) for Blacks and Whites. Sure, there are those who like to waste time arguing silly-ass semantics into the wee hours of the morning over ‘smoking is a choice, the color of your skin is not’, but let’s face it we’re talking segregation here folks. Voluntary segregation.

    And it ain’t coming from redneck conservatives either.

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