Premonitions

H/T Walt for this story from Pointe West, Florida. (also msnbc)

Jane O’Grady is 97 years old.

She is hard of hearing and has a glass eye.

And, much to the chagrin of a local assisted and independent living facility, she smokes.

The Lakes at Pointe West has told her she will be evicted if she doesn’t stop smoking inside her one-bedroom apartment.

Do you think that the management at the Lakes should be petitioned to allow her to stay? Do you think that letters should be written to congressmen? Do you think there should be a Big Debate about it? And, more to the point, do you think that the politically-correct ‘progressive’ antismokers who want Jane O’Grady evicted are going to change their minds?

These people don’t do debate. They don’t listen to petitions. They don’t read letters. They don’t compromise at all. It’s their way or it’s the highway. And in Jane O’Grady’s case, it’s going to be the highway.

And anyway there shouldn’t even need to be a debate. Evicting someone from their home for being a smoker is just plain wrong. And it shouldn’t need anyone to be told that it’s wrong. Because it’s quite manifestly an utterly vile, Nazi kind of behaviour.

And ultimately, I believe these people are going to have to be fought in exactly the same way their Nazi predecessors were fought – in pitched battle. Because when debate has become impossible, and democracy has broken down, and justice has vanished, and society is divided, all that’s left is open warfare.

What else can there be?

Civil war is what’s slowly coming down the track. But it’s not going to be a civil war quite like any other. In the first place, it’s not going to be fought in any one single country. It’s going to be fought all over the world. And it’s not going to be fought by soldiers in uniforms, marching in step with rifles on their shoulders. It’s going to be fought house to house, neighbour against neighbour, block to block, town against town, English against English, American against American, German against German.

But it’s a good way off yet. It’s not a war that’s going to break out tomorrow, or even next year. But in maybe 10 or 15 years. Maybe sooner if the economic downturn turns into full scale depression. But eventually it’ll come to a head.

Democracy in the western world is breaking down. The imposition of smoking bans is just one example of that breakdown. Politicians no longer represent people, but instead represent rich and powerful industries and lobby groups. There’s no real debate about anything. The debate is always over. The media has become trivialised. The real decisions are all taken behind closed doors, out of sight, and beyond scrutiny. In Europe, people are having an EU superstate imposed upon them whether they want it or not. And they’re having smoking bans imposed upon them too. And they’re having environmental restrictions, and unlimited numbers of meddling regulations, imposed as well. Resentment and anger is growing everywhere.

The civil war will be fought by environmentalist, healthist, Big-State ‘progressives’ against a loose coalition of conservatives and libertarians and religious groups. It’ll be Right versus Left, and country against town. In Europe it will be the people against the ‘progressive’ EU superstate.

There’ll be some spark that ignites it. It’ll start when somebody – somebody who has had enough – walks into somewhere like the offices of the management of the Lakes at Pointe West and shoots dead everyone inside it. And from there it’ll spread in all directions, everywhere, and engulf everyone. There won’t be a damn thing the military or the police or anybody else can do to stop it.

This isn’t the first time I’ve seen civil war looming on the horizon. Coming up on 3 years ago, when I started my blog, it was already in mind. And it’s because the so-called ‘progressives’ are so completely uncompromising, and are always pushing for more and more. It would have been quite easy to have a partial smoking ban, but the antismokers wouldn’t have it. And now they’re pushing for further bans. It’s the same with the EU. It’s always pushing to get bigger, and to exercise more and more control. It’s all one way. People may retreat in the beginning in the face of such a thing. But they won’t retreat forever. Resistance will mount. Matters will come to a head.

Update: Rose reports that Jane O’Grady was admitted to hospital last weekend.

Update 4 March 2012: Jane O’Grady had died.

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25 Responses to Premonitions

  1. A 97 year old woman threatened with eviction who ends up in hospital? System working as intended, then.

    I don’t share your belief in a coming confrontation or conflagration, though god knows it would lance this boil of rancid puritan tyranny faster than anything else. What I see are more and more people drifting away from the official world, going off grid, becoming invisible, forming shadow societies where they pay no taxes, have only the most tangible existence on government databases, promulgate deliberate disinformation about themselves to hide. Maybe this will reach a critical mass where it’s the majority, probably not, but most people simply refuse to see the interconnectedness of all the erosions of our freedoms, seeing only those which might effect them if they don’t ‘play by the rules’. I’m tired of being called paranoid and obsessed. Let them feed themselves into the maw of the state machine if they choose.

    • nisakiman says:

      “What I see are more and more people drifting away from the official world, going off grid, becoming invisible, forming shadow societies where they pay no taxes, have only the most tangible existence on government databases…”

      That’s exactly what I have done. The database info on me is so disparate and scanty now that I’m virtually a non-person. I make a point of staying well below the radar. It suits me to be that way.

  2. nisakiman says:

    As bad, if not worse, are some of the comments. The antis propaganda machine is well oiled. The brainless ones are thoroughly indoctrinated.

    O/T As I write this, there are no other comments on this post, but I see no ads. Perhaps they confine themselves to UK IP addresses? Dunno.

  3. harleyrider1978 says:

    Germany drawing up plans for Greece to leave the euro
    Plans for Greece to default, potentially leaving the euro, have been drafted in Germany as the European Union begins to face up to the fact that Greek debt is spiralling out of control – with or without a second bailout.

    The German finance ministry is actively pushing for Greece to declare itself bankrupt and to agree a “haircut” on the bulk of its debts held by banks, a move that would be classed as a default by financial markets.

    Eurozone finance ministers meet on Monday to approve the next tranche of loans from the EU and the International Monetary Fund, designed to stave off national bankruptcy while the new Greek government puts the country’s finances in order.

    But the severe austerity measures being demanded have caused such fury in Greece, and the cuts required are so deep, that Wolfgang Schäuble, the German finance minister, does not believe that any government would be able to implement them.

    His pessimism has been tipped into despair with a secret European Commission, Central and IMF report that even if Greece made good on its promises, it would not be enough to reach the target of bringing total debt to 120 per cent of GDP by 2020.

    “He just thinks the Greeks cannot do what needs to be done. And even if by some miracle they did what has been promised, he – and a growing group – are convinced it will not pull Greece out the hole,” said a eurozone official.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financialcrisis/9091021/Germany-drawing-up-plans-for-Greece-to-leave-the-euro.html

  4. harleyrider1978 says:

    Frank the first DOMINO falls……………..Italy,spain,portugal,Ireland……..whose next!

  5. harleyrider1978 says:

    Frank it was the first progressive movement back in 1900 america that started the whole mess. Todays their revival of the second movement. Same political group just diferent time period. I think magnetic has the complete write up on them from that time.

  6. mikef317 says:

    Harleyrider 2/19 at 2:06 AM:

    The current prohibitionist crusade is at least the third in American history. We have a strong puritanical streak in our character.

    Clean Living Movements by Ruth Engs is a good book on the subject. The link (to Amazon U.S.) has a “look inside” feature. http://www.amazon.com/Clean-Living-Movements-American-Cycles/dp/027597541X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1329621098&sr=1-1

    Also worth a read is James T. Bennett and Thomas J. DiLorenzo, From Pathology to Politics: Public Health In America. This traces the decent of PH from the days when they actually did some good (e.g., clean water) to today’s junk science. http://www.amazon.com/Pathology-Politics-Public-Health-America/dp/1412807360/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1329642341&sr=1-1

    • harleyrider1978 says:

      Thanks Mike

      • smokervoter says:

        I admire Ruth Engs immensely. I have an as yet unfinished piece in the bowels of this computer that I started in on a couple of years ago, shortly after discovering her. I made the mistake of going overboard on her biography and shelved the project. Look, I don’t know her personally so why should I put something out online as if I did. It would be embarrassing to me if she happened upon it and was in anyway insulted.

        Her work is eminently absorbing and very important. It opened my eyes more than almost anything I’ve read on nannyism. It made me angry at my country. We are an asinine conglomeration of hypochondriacs, Puritans and drones if ever there was one.

        She predicted that the current Clean Living Movement (1970-2005) had nearly exhausted itself. Seven years after the predicted end it is accelerating. We are even more asinine than I imagined. I’m hoping that we’re witnessing its last gasp. Sparklers accelerate right up to the end, and then fizzle out.

        To our credit there are a lot of folks who are sick to death of it all. Rush Limbaugh, a man with a huge national audience, has been on a roll lately condemning school lunch police, Michelle Obama, antismokers and the nanny state in general. Oddly enough, he also criticizes Ron Paul relentlessly.

        I’m digging the article out from my hard drive right now. I’m going to finish it. It is important.

  7. magnetic01 says:

    A little more from Ruth Engs:
    http://www.indiana.edu/~engs/ebook/samples.html
    http://www.indiana.edu/~engs/book/bits.html
    http://www.indiana.edu/~engs/book/endclean1.html

    “You create a moral dynamic that makes compromise impossible,” he says. “In America, health issues easily become moral issues, and once you’ve decided your opponent is morally bankrupt, and you get a political majority, why should you compromise?”

    …Can you argue that today’s laws are based on a scientific understanding of drugs and tobacco that our grandfathers lacked? You can’t. The opposition to smoking around the turn of the century employed many of the same arguments, right down to the idea that passive smoke was a danger to nonsmokers, so the cigar-smokers should be corralled into their own cars on trains. For that matter, many other supposedly scientific precepts–eating oatmeal, avoiding red meat, exercising regularly–were as integral to the cleanliving movements of yesteryear as they are to today’s. Science plays a small role in this swinging of the pendulum. Popular emotions play a large role.

    Musto thinks that with the victory of the antitobacco forces, the next target for restrictive legislation will be alcohol. That might begin with dissuading people from drinking, then progress to marginalizing those who do, to demonizing them and finally to enacting laws against them.

    That such laws generally fail to improve matters, and in many cases have made them worse, has been argued long and hard by libertarians, notably Milton Friedman. He has pointed out that banning, like rationing, produces economically perverse outcomes, among them a thriving business in the banned substance, fueled by jacked-up prices and swollen profit margins. Another perverse result comes from the substitution effect: If you make it hard (or expensive) for kids to get beer, they will get marijuana instead.
    http://www.forbes.com/forbes/1999/1018/6410070a_print.html

    Some information earlier-posted on Frank’s blog (see posts by “magnetic”):
    http://cfrankdavis.wordpress.com/2011/06/23/the-nazi-antismoking-legacy-1/

    • harleyrider1978 says:

      As she wrote in her autobiography, Sanger founded Planned Parenthood in 1916 “to stop the multiplication of the unfit.” This, she boasted, would be “the most important and greatest step towards race betterment.” While she oversaw the mass murder of black babies, Sanger cynically recruited minority activists to front her death racket. She conspired with eugenics financier and businessman Clarence Gamble to “hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities” to sell their genocidal policies as community health and welfare services.

      Whats really amazing is that most all of the abortions done are on minorities in America.

  8. harleyrider1978 says:

    Frank remember they declared war on US! No doubt we are the resistance and your right they wont debate. When they spent decades getting control of the strings of government and the TAX PURSE……Is when it became a war on we the people. All any of us ever wanted was just to be left alone,but conciense would not allow a few of us to back down. Instead we fight back by whatever means are available to us.

    Hense why they want the internet subdued………But theres always shortwave radio!

  9. harleyrider1978 says:

    Talking about abusive comments,heres what ya get when you destroy the shs myth!
    http://www.courierpress.com/news/2012/feb/19/smoking-ban-is-a-positive-step-for-this-old-city/?comments_id=1111629
    thisguysays:

    When will the courier ban jackengles for hijacking a comment board?

    If you dont like the topic at hand dont read it!

    Or you can join in and proffer up some real facts instead of junk science from the government.

    in response to JackEngles:

    If you dont like the topic at hand dont read it!

    Or you can join in and proffer up some real facts instead of junk science from the government.

    Here’s a fact, you are an idiot.

    Hickeyboys_Daddy writes:
    in response to state37:

    Darla – you rock. JackEngles – Maps, directions and mileage info to REALITY can be found on MapQuest.com.

    LOL

    Jack the Quack!

    Hickeyboys_Daddy writes:
    Jack the Quack is a day late and a dollar short. He’s a few sandwiches short of a picnic basket.

    JackEngles writes:
    So I gather you prohibitionists have nothing to add except names! Totally figures that when taken down to your basic argument its nothing more than a bigotted attitude against smokers.

    Rational thought in a prohibitionist isnt possible we now learn. Amazing Ehh!
    …..

  10. mikef317 says:

    Frank:

    I don’t know if The New York Times is one of your favored sites. (I suspect not.)

    Anyway, considering your interest in the European Union, I thought I’d pass on this article about the Greek economy.

    Due to pay wall issues, if the link doesn’t work, try nytimes.com and do a search for “Greek economy.” (Non-subscribers are allowed 20 free views a month.) The article (The Way Greeks Live Now) was published on Feb. 13th.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/19/magazine/the-way-greeks-live-now.html?scp=3&sq=Greek%20economy&st=cse

    Note that the article has several hundred comments.

  11. magnetic01 says:

    At the time, G.K. Chesterton was one of the few [loud] critics of Eugenics

    Add www. to amazon.com/Eugenics-Other-Evils-Scientifically-Organized/dp/1587420023/ref=cm_cr_pr_sims_t

    Do NOT add www. to
    query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9E02EFDB163FE633A25751C1A9679C946296D6CF&scp=56&sq=eugenics&st=p

  12. David says:

    I agree that there is a war coming but it’s going to be the proles against the elites – and there are WAY more of us.

    Put the gallows back up – we’re coming for them!

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