They Just Don’t Know

H/T James Delingpole for an article in the Mail predicting the Thames will freeze over:

Forget global warming – it’s Cycle 25 we need to worry about (and if NASA scientists are right the Thames will be freezing over again)

…leading climate scientists yesterday told The Mail on Sunday that, after emitting unusually high levels of energy throughout the 20th Century, the sun is now heading towards a ‘grand minimum’ in its output, threatening cold summers, bitter winters and a shortening of the season available for growing food.

Solar output goes through 11-year cycles, with high numbers of sunspots seen at their peak.

I don’t think it’s quite right to say that the sun is emitting lower levels of energy. The power output of the sun remains more or less constant, and amounts to about 1360 watts per square metre at the radius of the Earth (the very figure I was using a few days ago to estimate the temperature of an airless planet). It’s this solar constancy that has had climate scientists looking around for something else to explain the variation in the terrestrial climate – such as the concentration of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. What does vary in 11-year cycles is solar magnetic activity and the solar wind from the sun.

Henrik Svensmark (who gets a mention in the Sunday Mail article) has theorised that the strong solar wind that accompanies high numbers of sunspots deflects cosmic rays from outside the solar system away from the Earth. Since he reckons these cosmic rays seed cloud condensation nuclei in the atmosphere, fewer cosmic rays mean less cloud, and less solar radiation reflected back into space by clouds, and so higher terrestrial temperatures. The recent CLOUD experiment at CERN in Switzerland seems to have confirmed that cosmic rays actually do form condensation nuclei.

But there are other cycles at work. It seems that oceans like the Pacific warm up and cool down in a cyclic manner over periods of decades or more (and so its called the Pacific Decadal Oscillation or PDO), and this also has effects on the terrestrial climate.

Other, longer term cycles – most of which entail changes in the orbit of the Earth around the sun – are believed to control longer term warming and cooling of the Earth,  and to cause long ice ages or brief interglacial periods like the one we’re currently enjoying.

But all of it is supposition. Nobody really knows what causes the 11-year solar cycle, or what effect it might have on the Earth’s climate. Nobody really knows why Pacific water temperatures rise and fall. Nobody really knows what causes ice ages either. And nobody really knows what effects (if any) carbon dioxide in the atmosphere may have on global climate. But there are any number of rival theories. The current carbon dioxide-driven AGW theory which has been dominant for the past 20 years or so, and now appears to be in headlong retreat (because the Earth hasn’t warmed over the past 15 years, as the AGW theory predicts), appears only to have become the “consensus” view simply by stifling all opposing theories (as the Climategate scandal attests).

It’s the same with cancer. Nobody really knows what causes it. But there are lots of theories around. Radioactive fallout is one possible culprit. Human Papilloma Virus is another. Vehicle exhaust fumes yet another. And of course there’s smoking, which has been the unquestionable consensus culprit for the past 50 years, largely (much like in climate science) by stifling all opposing theories.

It’s rather surprising, really, that it’s in those areas of human inquiry where nobody really has a clue what causes what, that scientists seem to become zealots favouring one theory over another, pouring scorn on anyone who dares to dissent. It seems that, the less certain we are about what’s going on, the more we feel we must pretend to be certain. Or perhaps, in the absence of real knowledge, there regularly arises a blind faith in one doctrine or other.

It’s true of more or less everything else as well. Nobody really understands how economies work, and why they lapse into slumps at one point in time, or are galvanised into booms in another. But, as ever, there are plenty of theories, and the rival theorists very often aren’t on speaking terms with each other.

One thing that you never will see, however, is any one of these scientists and epidemiologists and economists standing up and saying, “We just don’t know.” Even when it has become obvious to everyone else that they haven’t a clue what they’re talking about, and are just making stuff up.

A heads-up for Telegraph readers. On visiting the Telegraph website today to read the Delingpole article, I was asked if I would like to fill in a brief reader’s survey. Unusually for me, I accepted the offer, and was soon tapping in responses. After a while it became clear that they were looking for people to leave money to charity in their wills, and midway through asked why they might do so. Only towards the end did they reveal that they had just one charity in mind – Cancer Research UK (CRUK) -. Would I consider giving them any money? Angrily I hit all the No-Never-Absolutely-Not buttons. After all there’s no way a smoker like me would ever give any money at all to those bastards. I’d rather burn it. And I waited to be asked why I wouldn’t. But the question was never asked. In retrospect, if I’d been forewarned, when being asked to explain why I might give money to charity, I would have explained at some length that I thought some charities – e.g. RNLI – were truly worthy causes, and others like CRUK and ASH were utterly vicious, and caused enormous harm, and should be closed down, and their employees should be flogged to within an inch of their lives. So be warned of what’s coming if you start answering that particular survey.

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16 Responses to They Just Don’t Know

  1. Jay says:

    Share your views about the likes of CRUK to whom I will never give another penny after cancelling my subscription.

    My donations to the Chris Carter appeal I like to consider as money that otherwise I would have donated to CRUK, thus killing two birds with one stone: deprivation of funds to a vicious charity diverted to a good cause :)

  2. Whats really telling is their soliciting from the grave donations. Frank I think you will notice thats what Bill Gates has been up to the last few years along with Bloomberg. They have been globe trotting trying to get all the richest folks to leave their money as endowments to particular philantopic groups such as his own or bloombergs.

    What is so telling is that last century at about this same time many rich folks were setting up the non-profits and other foundaions that led a coalition for prohibition and global governance along with the eugenics policies of the time. It appears the financial meltdown must have really zapped these endowments to the bone and the GATES and Bloombergs of today are seriously worried about the future of their IDEAL WORLD! Its a discussion probably worthy of a deep look as it deals so much with everything going on around us including the bloody smoking bans!

    • This is from 2004 bloomberg

      The Top Givers
      In our annual rankings, normally generous philanthropists played “supersize me

      Mega-giving is also helping to take up some of the burden of foundations and other nonprofits that saw their endowments crushed during the recession. Those problems were compounded by deep social spending cuts on the part of the Bush Administration. Given the gargantuan federal deficit, there’s not likely to be any increase from Washington anytime soon. That means there will continue to be great pressure on individual givers, and especially on the super-philanthropists, to dig deep. “Philanthropy and the entire nonprofit sector face more challenges than at any other time in recent memory,” says Jeff Krehely, deputy director of the National Committee for Responsive Philanthropy.

      http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/04_48/b3910401.htm

  3. 1The Global Economic Downturn,
    Philanthropy and Nonprofits:

    Reflections on what it means, and what to do

    By

    Helmut K Anheier

    Centre for Social Investment, University of Heidelberg &
    Center for Civil Society, UCLA

    January 2009

    Introduction

    That the global financial crisis is already impacting philanthropy and nonprofits is
    clear to everyone who follows daily reports of cancellations of charity drives, closings
    of programs, and even bankruptcies, or learns about economic troubles at one
    philanthropic institutions or another. It is also clear that the crisis’ impact is going
    to spread and deepen for some time to come. Less clear is for how long the crisis
    and its fallout will last; and especially unclear is what the crisis ultimately means for
    nonprofit and philanthropic policy-makers, leaders and managers. How could they
    respond to growing uncertainty in the sector itself as well as in the various fields in
    which nonprofits and philanthropies operate?

    At one level, little can be done. The current economic downturn, triggered by the
    financial crisis, is closely related to the inability of governments and international
    institutions to address what experts call the global governance problem — the
    growing mismatch between the forces of globalization (largely financial), and the
    capacity of governments to steer and regulate. Illustrative of this problem is not only
    the financial crisis itself but so are the often hapless responses in political capitals
    around the world: no national government, including the US, China or Japan, and
    no international institution, including the World Bank, the IMF or the European
    Union, are able to deal with the scale and scope of current weaknesses in the global
    economy. So unless the systemic failures of governance are fixed through policies
    and institutions more adequate to the challenges of a globalized economy and
    global financial markets, much remains political impression management at worst
    and ‘doctoring with the syndrome’ at best.

    At another level much more can be done, not in the sense of the global or
    macro issues mentioned above, but in terms of pro-active policy initiatives and
    management responses for, and on behalf of, philanthropy and nonprofits.

    Much more on the link
    http://tinyurl.com/8xphm3y

  4. It is rather nice to hear of non-profits going bust,it pretty well shows how low theyve gotton to ask you to bequeath them your money!

  5. smokervoter says:

    I happen to be a Public Broadcast Service television junkie. I like to watch Frontline, Nova, Austin City Limits, the list goes on.

    When the largest PBS channel serving the Los Angeles announced that they would no longer ask viewers for contributions via pledge drives, it kind of made my day. I wondered who they’d snagged to foot the bill.

    Well, that sponsor turned out to be the most despicable organization on earth, none other than the ultra orthodox maniacs at TobaccoFreeCA. The station now rotates four or five vile, grating public service announcements all day, all week and all month ad nauseam.

    They consist of horridly produced 30-second teleplays purposely modeled after the Two-Minute Hates of 1984 fame. One such piece features maddening metronome ticking sounds combined with two of the most sinister organ notes to be found on the musical scale as background. The hideous narrator proclaims that not only is secondhand smoke irritating it “can kill”. He urges the viewers to ‘speak out’ about secondhand smoke, i.e. snitch people out, complain to the police or confront people smoking in public. This is hardly good public health advice, especially to anyone who complains to me, unless you consider a broken jaw to be salutary. The villian smoker is partaking outdoors.

    The management of the station probably thought they’d scored a win-win. A white knight with big pockets footing the bills combined with altruist messages of angelic social salvation probably looked good at first blush. They cash the fat checks, the smokers all quit the habit and everyone lives happily ever after. A new age do-gooders dream.

    Instead they’ve lost my respect (and that of their smoking and rational non-smoking viewers as well) as it’s obvious they’ve made a venal deal with the devil. These PSA’s are beyond the pale of civil society. They’re pure evil hatred and they’re ineffective as well. They appear to be the work of an immature bunch of film students who worship at the altar of the departed Joseph Goebbels. They’re really that bad.

    Their effect on smokers is seething, burning anger. Non-smokers with brains and hearts and friends and relatives who happen to smoke find them insulting and downright scary. They succeed only in aggravating everyone in the process, 24/7. The repetition only serves to illuminate just how diabolic and obsessively compulsive the neo-nazis at TobaccoFreeCA truly are. Huge mistake.

    I’m not sure but I suspect I’m involuntarily paying for these through state cigarette taxes. It makes me want to tear my hair out.

  6. waltc says:

    On Don’t-Know-erism: And when doctors don’t know what’s causing your symptoms, they say “Stop smoking.” Leaving you to die of an undetected, unrelated virus or tumor or whatever the hell it was that they didn’t bother to find because saying “Stop smoking” was easier, cheaper and politically correct.

    Smokervoter– At least write the head of PBS and get others to do the same. And if you ever gave to them, ask for a refund.

    • smokervoter says:

      It turns out my suspicion of involuntarily funding tobaccofreeca was correct. They are tapping into a yearly treasure trove of over $250 million dollars collected from California smokers. So in effect the 15% of PBS’s television audience who smoke are paying for all the rest to watch the shows. This is nothing short of criminal extortion. And do we get a thank you? NO we get non-stop insulting and mean-spirited Two-Minute Hate’s directed at us. This is infuriating. It is akin to Blacks being forced to buy white linen for the Ku Klux Klan.

      When I first noticed the strange creeping proliferation of TobaccofreeCA ads I sent an email to management that consisted of a brief dissertation of my objections. As the ads continued and it become apparent that this was now a permanent situation, my anger and outrage grew exponentially.

      Shortly after watching the classic Bogart/Bacall “To Have and Have Not” and feeling in a wonderful mood there came the tell-tale sinister metronome clicks of a tobaccofreeCA hate piece. I grabbed the remote, hit the mute button and went into a rage. The bastards had managed to throw a wet blanket on the proceedings one time too many for me.

      Lauren Bacall is an exquisite creature designed by the gods of pulchritude. The gorgeous geometry from her forelocks to her nose to her lips is incredible. It seamlessly meets the gravity defying upsweep of her baselocks that begin at her shoulder. And the way she smokes and lights her matches is a thing of consummate beauty. When Bogey and her first meet in the movie she asks for a match, lights her cigarette and sensuously flicks it away. Cigarettes and matches played a big part in the affairs.

      This time I fired off and expletive packed email to management. This isn’t typical for me. I’m no fan of cursing and foul language but it fit the moment and I’m glad I did it. They’ve stooped so low into the gutter by accepting money from the tobaccofree pond scum that profanity is a step up.

      I invite every smoker on god’s green earth to contact the management of KCET in Los Angeles and let them know what you think about extortion, Two-Minute Hates and the new lows they’ve slumped to.

      Viewer/Online Services:
      tel: (323) 953-5238
      email: viewerservices@kcet.org

      Fire away at will. Expletives are optional.

      • This is infuriating. It is akin to Blacks being forced to buy white linen for the Ku Klux Klan.

        You wanna hear a good one,the klan was big time for prohibition in the 1920s at their height of prominance, They backed the progressives and their eugenics agenda. I wouldnt doubt we have a new klan arising in this anti-tobacco lobby.

  7. Marie says:

    Philanthropy is a mechanism by which rich people can both give their money away and keep control over it.

  8. beobrigitte says:

    …Only towards the end did they reveal that they had just one charity in mind – Cancer Research UK (CRUK)

    Isn’t it interesting to see that CRUK (and especially the ASHites) aren’t afraid of the, according to them, ultra-dangerous “third hand smoke” which sticks to money???
    Needless to say, I am saving countless lives by 1. not donating to them and 2. telling everyone why I don’t.

  9. Gary K. says:

    Global Warming is a problem, tell that to the dozens of people in Eastern Europe that have died due the extreme cold as of late.

    Of course, a weather event is not climate; but, AGW people claim that “Global Warming causes more cold weather events’!!

    Then again, they claim it causes everything.

    I feel as tho I have followed Alice thru the looking glass into a strange world where Humpty(AGW’rs)Dumptys are sitting on a wall and saying: ‘When I use a word/fact, it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.’

    I feel the same way about TC anti-smokers and their world.

    Don’t you know that if kids smoke they will die from preventable pre-mature deaths?

    This must be true, the antis have almost sworn it to be true.

    This is what things look like from the real world side of the looking glass.

    If we define a pre-mature death as one occurring before the median(50th percentile) age of death, we discover some very interesting facts.

    First, 40% of smokers’ deaths are NOT pre-mature, those deaths occur over the median age of death.

    Second, about 85% of the smokers’ pre-mature deaths are not preventable because those deaths would have occurred even if the smokers had never smoked!!!

    Most everybody dies before the age of 100 and the median age of death in America is 78.

    CDC data tells us that the median age of smokers’ death is 73.

    If we take 100 non-smokers and 100 smokers we find these facts.

    50 of the non-smokers will die before the age of 78.

    50 of the smokers will die before the age of 73 and the remaining 50 will die over the 27 years to 100. That is an average rate of 2 per year.

    There will be 10 smokers deaths between 73 and 78, for a total of 60 smokers dying before the age of 78 and 40 dying after the age of 78.

    Thus, 40% of the smokers will not die a pre-mature death.

    50 non-smokers will die before the age of 78 as compared to 60 smokers dying before the age of 78.

    Thus, 50/60 of the smokers’ deaths would occur had the smokers never smoked.
    That is about 85%.

    Sooo:
    1. 40% of smokers will NOT die a pre-mature death.
    2. About 85% of the pre-mature smoker deaths are NOT preventable!!!

  10. garyk30 says:

    Have you noticed the total lack of statements by the AGW types about what the ideal temperature for the Earth should be?

    They are all for hauling in billions of our money and they do not have any idea of what they are supposed to be achieving!!!!

    Gary K.

  11. psst Gary look here:

    Google executive chairman Eric Schmidt was among those who argued at Davos that globalisation had been a huge force for good, raising two billion people out of poverty.

    They took the whole industrialized world all down together,bankrupt so somebody could own a bigger ricebowl than they had before. If they cant have their globalized world control,they will make sure we get a world wide depression!

    Pundits fear ‘perfect storm’ despite official optimism

    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.218bcf7fdf123da81f848acd32746026.c81&show_article=1

  12. smokervoter says:

    I wouldnt doubt we have a new klan arising in this anti-tobacco lobby.

    Good point as usual Harley. I first learned of their anti-tobacco, progressive stance from the Ken Burns documentary on Prohibition. It figures.

    Believe me, these leftist-socialist hipster types (antismokers all) have as much bottled up hatred in them as does any klansman, if not more.

    Back in the late 70′s when I first grew disenchanted with the bad vibes of these folks I still sported a beard (I had already ditched the long hair by then) and they figured I was one of them. I’d listen to them rail on about anyone they thought wasn’t cool. You wouldn’t believe how much bile they produce. And now it’s us smokers they’ve got it out for.

    Actually this shouldn’t come as much of a surprise. Think Stalin, think Mao Tse Tung, think Pol Pot, think TobaccofreeCA. These lovey dovey socialists are right up there with the klan.

  13. RdM says:

    Re solar output variations and cycles, you might find this (referred to) paper interesting.
    The author also predicts a coming mini-ice age.
    http://icecap.us/index.php/go/joes-blog/bicentennial_decrease_of_the_total_solar_irradiance_leads_to_unbalanced_the/

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